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Canalys ( A Company ) loses the plot and claims PCs are dying
Fudzilla ^ | Friday, 11 January 2013 09:55 | Nick Farrell

Posted on 01/12/2013 10:08:00 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach


Will lose market share to tablets and smartphones


Analyst outfits are falling into a logical la la land which states that PCs are completing with tablets and smartphones. Yesterday the analyst outfit Canalys claimed that Windows and Intel will continue losing market share to tablets and smartphones. The assumption is that it is comparing like with like.

Canalys claimed that Wintel machines will have 65 percent of the computer market this year, down from 72 percent in 2012.  But in the fourth quarter of last year, combined shipments of desktops, netbooks and notebooks declined about 10 percent from the same period in 2011. Pin-Chen Tang, an analyst at Canalys made the somewhat silly claim that wintel PCs were becoming less likely as an individual’s first choice of computing device for everyday tasks, such as sending e-mail or Web browsing.

If I were a CEO of Canalys. I would lock Pin-Chen in a room with a tablet and tell him since that is what he wants, he can only do his business on it. I think when we let him out a couple of hours later he would be a dribbling loon having not written anything on his glorified Psion organiser. The belief that tablets, smartphones and PCs are competing against each other is a myth which was first started by Steve Jobs in Apple and parroted by those who do not have the brains to come up with a contrary opinion.

Jobs tried to sell the idea is that PCs and notebooks were being replaced by tablets and smartphones as part of a mobile revolution. The proof to this fallacy is that PC sales have declined while smartphones and tablet sales have increased. But car sales have also declined. Does this mean that tablets and smartphones are replacing cars? McDonald's sales have also declined, does this mean that people are tucking into tablets instead of two all-beef patties and special sauce with fries?

PC sales are slow, as they always are during periods of economic trouble. While more than 40 percent of US homes might have a tablet, they still have PCs and laptops too. Most of a tablet's functions are still that of the organiser. Most of a smartphone's functions are used doing traditional old phone work and messaging.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: canalys; completebs; hitech; ridiculoustripe

1 posted on 01/12/2013 10:08:02 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce; SierraWasp; SunkenCiv

fyi


2 posted on 01/12/2013 10:09:13 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I will never get rid of my desktop, I just can’t see myself doing everything on a laptop, let alone a tablet.

I think it’s ridiculous to say nobody will use desktop PCs in 10 years just because of new competition.

Laptops and tablets are great for certain things, but for my personal use I will always stick with a desktop.


3 posted on 01/12/2013 10:16:16 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I used to build a PC a year. Now my latest one is ~4 years old.

The biggest issue is that the trend in OS's is to make your computer theirs from a control standpoint.

4 posted on 01/12/2013 10:20:33 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am happy with my laptop.

I dont need a faster or better one.

I could see using my current (4 year old) laptop with Windows 7 for the next 10 years.

I also have an (2 year old) Android phone. I am happy with it. My contract was up 2 months ago. I could upgrade to a newer model. But why? The newer phones do not do anything more for me than my current one. So I am good with it for the next 5 years.

There is a point where advances in technology stops benefiting me.

And then I am all set and I dont need any more purchases for the foreseeable future.

This is inevitable.


5 posted on 01/12/2013 10:21:58 AM PST by FoxPro
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To: Shadow44
I feel the exact same way, but I think it's generational..may I ask your age?)I'm 65..can still remember the excitement when our offices got our first IBM PCs..and the dot-matrix printer that weighed about 10 lbs..

Those younger than I..raise on cell phones, PlayStation, etc..think/feel/act much different

6 posted on 01/12/2013 10:23:39 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Frankly, I think people are getting sick of something new every year....except there’s always a new group coming into the market. My granddaughter just got Windows 8.....hates it.


7 posted on 01/12/2013 10:24:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Shadow44

Hard drive went out on our desk top three days ago. Two days ago we got new desk top with hard drive twice as large and lots of new and better features. Only difference is operating system. Windows 8. Takes a little getting used to, but no big deal.

Have lap tops, but desk top is the best when at home.


8 posted on 01/12/2013 10:25:29 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I will have my belt and contact lenses.


9 posted on 01/12/2013 10:25:41 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I just converted to iPads and iPhones. The only pc I have running now is to continue quicken. Other than that I’m done with Microsoft as well as OSX machines. I bought pages and numbers for the iOS at $10 bucks apiece.
I can find mostly free apps that do most of what interests me. The only drawback is access to files, that is without jail breaking.


10 posted on 01/12/2013 10:27:27 AM PST by waredbird
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They’ve been predicting the death of the desktop PC for 20 years. Those predictions didn’t come true then, and they aren’t going to come true now.


11 posted on 01/12/2013 10:29:26 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: ken5050

I’m in my 20s, I grew up with all that stuff and I still don’t want to give up my desktop.

I have an Android smartphone, I like it and all, but it’s NEVER going to compete with my desktop PC.

My laptop is broken, the hinges on the screen are barely attached, so that really hasn’t convinced me of its superiority.

I can’t afford a tablet, nor really desire one. Most people I know that have them are just Apple fanatics who buy the “next big thing”. I’m more frugal with my limited income.


12 posted on 01/12/2013 10:31:57 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

The idea that a smartphone will ever replace a real workspace is ridiculous.


13 posted on 01/12/2013 10:37:53 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sacajaweau
My granddaughter just got Windows 8.....hates it.
Point her here, it may help ... Windows 8 Survival Guide: All the Tips, Tricks, and Workarounds
I recommend Classic Shell (free)
14 posted on 01/12/2013 10:38:39 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I require a real keyboard. Touch screens and microbuttons are not keyboards. They’re fine for twittering and solving boredom problems while driving, but for anything serious, I want a keyboard, and preferably a Microsoft ergonomic keyboard.

Trying to type on a touch screen is like trying to drive a nail with a screwdriver.


15 posted on 01/12/2013 10:47:38 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Tablets and the like are neat devices and are great for what they are.

But they are devices used largely to access data others have created. Look at photos, read email, surf website.

If you actually want to create something - write something, code something, draft something, populate a spreadsheet - tablets are not your first choice if they’re even a choice at all.


16 posted on 01/12/2013 10:48:43 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Shadow44; ken5050

40s here, and will never do without my desktop. I have all: an Android, desktops, laptops, tablet, and Kindle. While I have enjoyed the tablet at night to maybe do some final reading before bed, or watch Netflix, it will never replace the functionality of my desktop. I was trying to write an email on it just last night and had to give up and come back to my desktop. Just a simple email.

And while I enjoy having my Android, can surf the web while I am out and about, websites are limited, at best.

At work we use laptops, and they may have functionality for freedom of movement, for hard data crunching, desktops still reign. And we all have our laptops docked and attached to at least one regular, if not two or more monitors.

I briefly saw another poster make a point that technology was moving so fast, that from the late 90s until recently, you almost had to build a new desktop every year to keep up. My current desktop is 2 years old, and is still extremely fast and able to keep up with recent innovations. Windows 7 is working very well, I don’t feel the need to upgrade.


17 posted on 01/12/2013 10:58:28 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: JamesP81

So true....the applications I run for my business would never work well on a laptop, cell phone or tablet...


18 posted on 01/12/2013 1:03:07 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yes, I read this nonsense and had to laugh. A few days ago I ordered two Windows 8 high powered HP all-in-one touch screen PCs, one for my wife and one for me. They will replace two 6 and 7 year old PCs running Windows XP.

I know it will be a challenge as not only will we have to acclimate ourselves to an entirely new operating system, but also an entirely new interface of Microsoft Office having to migrate from Office 2003 to Office 2010.

We also plan to purchase a couple of tablets later this year to replace the netbook we use when traveling. While the netbook is OK for travel, no way would I ever want to be limited to the netbook for my daily use.

For anyone who uses a desktop to manage business or personal affairs, it would seem absurd to attempt to handle that type of work via a tablet. All I can say is, “You have got to be kidding me.” Why would I ever want to consider viewing internet pages throughout the day on a small tablet or smart phone when I can have a beautiful wide screen with a full-sized keyboard and a mouse. Plus, I now will have the benefit of a touch screen.


19 posted on 01/12/2013 1:55:37 PM PST by CdMGuy
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Need a REAL keyboard so you don’t have to look at the keys to type. And use all your fingers.

When I see people pecking/poking at the ipad screen keyboard I cringe. I don’t have the patience for that.


20 posted on 01/12/2013 2:13:31 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( >-> Zombies eat brains. >-> 50% of FL is safe.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ShadowAce; Swordmaker; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; ...

Thanks Ernest.
Analyst outfits are falling into a logical la la land which states that PCs are completing with tablets and smartphones. Yesterday the analyst outfit Canalys claimed that Windows and Intel will continue losing market share to tablets and smartphones. The assumption is that it is comparing like with like. Canalys claimed that Wintel machines will have 65 percent of the computer market this year, down from 72 percent in 2012. But in the fourth quarter of last year, combined shipments of desktops, netbooks and notebooks declined about 10 percent from the same period in 2011. Pin-Chen Tang, an analyst at Canalys made the somewhat silly claim that wintel PCs were becoming less likely as an individual’s first choice of computing device for everyday tasks, such as sending e-mail or Web browsing.
Succinctly put, the author is nuts.

Of *course* desktop CPU sales growth have stagnated, and sales will be in decline indefinitely because portability is more prized than overall capability. Convenience is not measured only by overall ease of use (I absolutely loathe the "smart phone" interface, iPods, tablets, Kindles, you name it, and likewise loathe that scratch pad POS that is on literally every laptop/notebook computer) it is also about portability. Before the pads came out, anecdotally speaking, people I know even a little bit spoke about how they still had desktop CPUs at home, but more and more did their email, chat, and social media crap on their "smart phones".

When TVs start to come with integrated apps normally associated with CPUs -- browsers, other online clients, and office software -- the portable market isn't the one which will suffer, if anything the portables will get a major boost.


21 posted on 01/12/2013 4:53:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Shadow44

Agreed. The User Interface has to improve a lot before this will happen. Touch screen keyboards and auto complete are awful IMO.

The only reason they exist is because you can’t stuff a laptop in your coat pocket and you are willing to suffer with the UI on a small display because it is ultra-portable.

You don’t need that kind of portability in the home or at work.


22 posted on 01/12/2013 5:28:45 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bump

good points


23 posted on 01/12/2013 5:36:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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