Skip to comments.Patriotic Group To Build Armed 'Defensible' Neighborhood Fortress
Posted on 01/12/2013 6:08:29 PM PST by Kartographer
A group of like-minded patriots, bound together by pride in American exceptionalism, plan on building an armed community to protect their liberty.
The group, named Citadel, intends to purchase 2,000 to 3,000 acres for the project in western Idaho. The community will comprise of 3,500 to 7,000 families of patriotic Americans who "voluntarily choose to live together in accordance with Thomas Jefferson's ideal of Rightful Liberty."
According to the Citadel website, Rightful Liberty means that "neighbors keep their noses out of other neighbors' business, that neighbors live and let live."
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7,000 families on 3,000 acres in Idaho. I’m not sure that’s a good plan. I have other concerns about their idea, but the math seems flawed too.
Call it the Galt Indian Tribe.
No home owner's association, then.
I went to their website. They have a calculator to determine your cost. its mostly based on how much space you want and land. They are also including land outside the fortress.
Its a lifetime lease with a 30 yr term. I’d be interested to see who the property reverts to upon death.
If you live 30 years after starting the lease, do they kill you?
I’m in. As long as there are a few hot chicks available. This ain’t one of them places where all the women wear long brown dresses is it?
Lifetime leases can be tricky. With a 30 yr term you pay for 30 yrs but can live on it until you die.
In many cases the property would then revert back to the sponsor who could then resell it.
Leadership isn’t democratic either. At least there’s no time wasted on elections.
Thanks, humor aside, I didn't understand the combination.
Well accidents do happen. It would certainly help cash flow and keep units open for new members.
Yup, would like to know that also!
Too easily targeted.
My guess, the community will be infiltrated by DHS in an effort to keep an eye on them.
Wonder if they’ll have their own court, police and so forth?
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"neighbors keep their noses out of other neighbors' business, that neighbors live and let live."
The trouble begins at the interface between what one neighbor thinks of as his business and what another neighbor thinks of as his business, and at the interface between the lives of neighbors.
True... They need to expand several hundred square miles!
Of course they will have problems but with their own Police Force (abiding by the Constitution) I can imagine that they will do much better than if they were wards of the State. It is a good idea that will expand because of the continued abuse of the Constitution by the Federal Government... Something has to give.
Even at 3500 families averaging 4 per family, that’s less than a quarter acre per person. And that’s not counting what they’ll need for common roads, byways, facilities, whatever.
I don’t think they can do it unless they build “up”, and liberty might be constrained in a highrise because the interface of one families business and life is so close to that of others.
“(abiding by the Constitution)”
I don’t quite see how they will do that on their own.
Just one quick look at the layout tells me its either a scam or a prank. I personally think its a prank because a scam needs to be more realistic than this.
One way in and out? Really?
Strange statement to me! Americans either want to abide by the Constitution or not. It is our founding document! For goodness sakes, do you actually think that it takes the Government to force us to abide by the Constitution! The Constitution is written by and for the People NOT the Government! It is up to the People to enforce it NOT the Government! To say the they can not abide by the Constitution on their own implies that they must be forced to abide - just how crazy is that!!
Rather strange statement I’d say...
No, it will become a State issue eventually...
Interesting. Has a scam smell to it though...
Glenn Beck announced something similar “city”, I think called Independence.
Heh, could come to that but picture it much larger - say a few states wide!
“To say the they can not abide by the Constitution on their own implies that they must be forced to abide”
No, it doesn’t imply that. But to say that they can abide by the Constitution on their own is quite similar to saying a person can get married or form a partnership on their own, without anyone else.
And yes, you can abide by the terms of a marriage or a partnership by yourself, but only the parts that apply to you, not the whole thing.
Okay...your opinion, I disagree wholeheartedly! For those of use that actually believe in the Constitution, it would be no problem at all! Of course there is always the chance that their elected officials are corrupt (like most of those we have today) then they will experience the same corruption.
I would think that those that gathered in this effort would be the best of best and would not need outside influence.
So I guess you are technically correct, even if individuals believe and carry out their duties under the Constitution, their elected leaders may not - sound familiar?
That was my first thought. Sounds a bit hinky, too. Thanks, but I'll stay where I am.
You’re both correct...IMO
Leadership isnt democratic either.
Neither is the United States. And the Constitution says the fed will guarantee all states maintain a republican form of government. As this will be below the state level I wonder what “type of government” rule will apply.
i think if we had the demographics of the late 1700s it could work. i don’t think so now.
I think the barak regime would love for us to cower in compounds like Waco, or maybe like Jews in train cars.
No mention of God, worship, or religious freedom other than inference? People have to be physically fit, does that mean that those who get sick after moving in get expelled?
It will be interesting to watch what transpires.
At least you get to vote in the United States.
This sounds like a group of folks came up with the idea and are looking for other people to help fund it. Only those other people won’t have any say in how their investment is managed or maintained.
And in the event of their death the buyers likely won’t be able to will the property to their heirs. Instead the property reverts back to the original folks who can re-lease the property to someone of their choice.
Four: Every able-bodied Patriot of age within the Citadel will maintain one AR15 variant in 5.56mm NATO, at least 5 magazines and 1,000 rounds of ammunition.
That is quite an expensive proposition for every member of the family.
I think I'll pass. I'd rather rely on my own preps and abilities. But for some, it might be a good option.
Some have at least that in their BOB. ;-)
Hmmmm.... I prefer my M1A. I really don't like the Mighty Mattel.
Some. Yeah. Some BIG dudes. Like this guy:
Here's one view of how it might work:
I would not want to be such a high-profile target.