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RFK Jr.: 'It Was Not A Lone Gunman' Who Killed JFK
WFAA ^ | January 12, 2013 | JAMIE STENGLE

Posted on 01/13/2013 4:05:24 AM PST by fella

Edited on 01/13/2013 8:36:37 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told an audience at the Winspear Opera House in Dallas that he doesn't believe a lone gunman was responsible for his uncle's 1963 assassination.

DALLAS (AP) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is convinced that a lone gunman wasn't solely responsible for the assassination of his uncle, President John F. Kennedy, and said his father believed the Warren Commission report was a "shoddy piece of craftsmanship."


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1 posted on 01/13/2013 4:05:27 AM PST by fella
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To: fella

RFK Jr is a heroin addict.Therefore his opinions mean nothing to any thinking person.


2 posted on 01/13/2013 4:11:57 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: Gay State Conservative; fella
LBJ and Ed Clark killed John Kennedy.

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/23rd_Issue/breakthru.html

3 posted on 01/13/2013 4:17:04 AM PST by varmintman
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yup. Just one more attempt to tie the murder to right win gun nuts despite the fact that it was a communist who did it.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 4:19:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: fella
Rory Kennedy, a documentary filmmaker whose recent film "Ethel" looks at the life of her mother, also focused on the happier memories. She said she and her siblings grew up in a culture where it was important to give back.

Words completely fail me. A K-Clan member, part of a group of fine individuals that include a booze running bootlegger, a murdering car-diving specialist who later boozed his way through the Senate legislatively raping the American citizen, more than one rapist, philanderers (possibility of drug murder), drug addicts, coddled self absorbed narcissists, etc.

Please, Rory, what makes you think any sane person in this country would want any more of what you or your family have to "give us?"

5 posted on 01/13/2013 4:20:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: fella

While there were obviously many other factors, an excellent argument can be made that the liberal estrangement from America began with RFK’s assassination. They just couldn’t accept that he was killed by a leftist.

He MUST have been killed by a right-wing conspiracy secretly dominating America. Therefore America was evil.


6 posted on 01/13/2013 4:20:19 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Gay State Conservative
RFK Jr is a heroin addict.Therefore his opinions mean nothing to any thinking person.

Life is more complicated than that. The goofiest person on the planet could have one subject which he knew more about than anybody else and you could learn something from him on that one topic.

7 posted on 01/13/2013 4:20:38 AM PST by varmintman
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To: Gaffer

My Bad.....wrong thread.....much apologies....


8 posted on 01/13/2013 4:21:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: fella

And big head ted didnt kill mary jo


9 posted on 01/13/2013 4:23:16 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: varmintman
Life is more complicated than that. The goofiest person on the planet could have one subject which he knew more about than anybody else and you could learn something from him on that one topic.

In twenty of years of work in a big city ER I'll wager that I've met more heroin addicts than you've had hot dinners.You may be a more trusting soul than am I but I stand by my statement.Particularly when the heroin addict in question is a member of the family that almost certainly is the filthiest to have ever walked this earth.

10 posted on 01/13/2013 4:27:15 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: fella

He was eight or nine years old and made an appointment with the president to talk about the environment?? In 1963 the environment as an issue wasn’t even on anyone’s radar. I don’t believe one word of this fairy tale.


11 posted on 01/13/2013 4:30:56 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: fella

He can believe anything he wants to but coming from a gene pool populated with room temperature IQs and desperately in need of chlorine, wise people will ignore this moron.


12 posted on 01/13/2013 4:32:11 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: fella

Why can’t we just leave these people alone.

Just let the Kennedy’s go away.

Let the Clinton’s go away.

Let the Bush’s go away


13 posted on 01/13/2013 4:32:11 AM PST by Venturer
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To: fella

He said his father thought the Warren Commission, which concluded Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing the president, was a “shoddy piece of craftsmanship.” He said that he, too, questioned the report.

Dollars to doughnuts, I’ll wager that like most people who dispute the Warren Report, he never actually read it but probably just accepts that it is wrong based upon the JFK Conspiracy cottage industry.

Much like the people who can’t stand Limbaugh, but have never actually listened to him.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 4:34:41 AM PST by Paisan
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To: Gaffer
She said she and her siblings grew up in a culture where it was important to give back.

That is why many of them live a jet set lifestyle while being involved in the charitable organization rackets.

15 posted on 01/13/2013 4:37:13 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: fella

Many of us who lived through that time have thought that ever since that cold Thanksgiving weekend back in ‘63.


16 posted on 01/13/2013 4:38:31 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
is a member of the family that almost certainly is the filthiest to have ever walked this earth.

You'll get no argument from me, Gay State. Absolute trash. I was way too young to even remember JFK or RFK. I have, however, never shed a tear for those scumbags. Yep, I was happy Teddyholic finally took his trip on the down elevator, to pay for MJ Koepechne. I could not possibly loathe those swine any more than I do.
17 posted on 01/13/2013 4:44:04 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: fella
I think he's wrong, but IF this was true, RFK would be ENTIRELY culpable because in his capacity as Atty Gen he had FULL responsibility for the investigation, regardless of whether a special commission was created.

A recent revelation that both Kennedy's had an ongoing secret relationship with Cuban General Alvieda (sp) who would head up the post-Castro government, and that he kept silent to protect that source, is plausible. But the associated logic that somehow this linked back to Oswald is flimsy to non-existent.

For those interested, see a book called "Legacy of Secrecy".

18 posted on 01/13/2013 4:49:36 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Disagree. His heroin addiction was in the remote past and his closeness to the situation gives him some validity.

And the K family is not certainly the filthiest family in history unless you know no history. They have competition.


19 posted on 01/13/2013 4:49:45 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: varmintman

I totally agree.


20 posted on 01/13/2013 4:58:49 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: fella
He said his father had investigators do research into the assassination and found that phone records of Oswald and nightclub owner Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald two days after the president's assassination, "were like an inventory" of mafia leaders the government had been investigating.

The family couldn't get the body in the ground fast enough. As AG, RFK could have publicly investigated the assassination. He knew who did it day 1, but he never wanted the public to know. The mafia won the '60 election for JFK and they thought he had crossed them.

21 posted on 01/13/2013 5:02:01 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Venturer

“Why can’t we just leave these people alone.

Just let the Kennedy’s go away.

Let the Clinton’s go away.

Let the Bush’s go away”

I know many on here would argue about many of the policies put in place by the Bush’s however, unlike the Clintons and the Kennedy’s they don’t seem to run felons for public office, unlike the other two families. Therefore, they seem a lot more classy in that sense than the other two.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 5:02:21 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Gay State Conservative

All Kennedy clan members have been scum of one variety or another.

However, it was a lone gunman that shot JFK. Anyone who’s ever been to Dallas and looked at the “spot” you realize just hwo confined it is and how it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Anyone reasonably competent with a rifle could have gotten this done.


23 posted on 01/13/2013 5:07:02 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: cajungirl
You can completely despise the Kennedy family but it's hard to ignore the evidence that pointed right to the government and LBJ. Especially if you grew up in that era. I would have never thought that blatant abuse of power could have happened again but it has.
24 posted on 01/13/2013 5:12:18 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: fella

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25 posted on 01/13/2013 5:22:22 AM PST by BuddhistConservative
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To: Ouderkirk

I frankly just don’t care. I’m a big fan of history but this simply doesn’t merit the attention it gets. The transformative progressive advances made as a result merit far more attention than the actual assassination.


26 posted on 01/13/2013 5:22:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Bingo !


27 posted on 01/13/2013 5:42:17 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: MagnoliaB

the mafia is my suspicion. One gunman withencouragement and help from Mafia.


28 posted on 01/13/2013 6:24:44 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: Paisan

While Vincent Bugliosi (tried Charles Manson and is the author of “Helter Skelter”) is a leftist, he also has a pretty good mind when he turns it to his specialty, which is law.

He wrote an excellent book about the JFK assassination called “Reclaiming History” that not only exhaustively dispelled nearly ever single assertion by the conspiracy theory people, but also buttressed most of the main points of the Warren Commission.

For example, one of the main contentions is that Oswald could have never fired as many shots as he did, as accurately as he did from the Mannlicher-Carcano. It was characterized as a cheap, inferior product, not accurate, and could not have done what it did. The Warren Commission not only showed contrary opinions from the US Army that the gun was not considered a cheap piece of crap (they considered it a capable weapon long before the assassination) but that a Marine Corps weapons expert could not only shoot the weapon as fast in an environment that simulated the range, speed, relative positions and size of target, but was able to improve on the shooting. (if I recall, the weapons expert said that Oswald likely used the iron sights instead of the scope, as he did during his evaluation of the weapon. Using the scope would have been more difficult in some respects)

But one of the best passages from the book describes how Oswald was giving a lecture to a large audience (in the hundreds) of high powered attorneys, and he posed a question to them: “How many of you believe that there was a conspiracy to murder JFK, and that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone?” The response was nearly every single hand in the room was raised.

He then said (I have to paraphrase, don’t have the book) “What if I could convince all of you, in sixty seconds or less, that you are not thinking correctly on the subject?” There was some commotion and loud murmuring from the crowd, and one of them said aloud: “We don’t think you can do it.”

So Bugliosi turned to someone on the stage with him and said “Okay, start timing”. He turned to the crowd and said “How many of you have ever read the Warren Commission Report?”

Only one or two hands went up. Bugliosi said: “As lawyers, isn’t it vitally important, perhaps most important, to weigh all the facts available and to hear both sides of the story before you come to a conclusion? I once had a country lawyer say to me, no matter how thin I make my flapjacks, there are still two sides to them.” He turned to the timer and said asked how much time was left. The timer said twenty seconds.

There wasn’t a single peep of dissent from the audience of assembled lawyers. He later said he wasn’t even questioning whether anyone had read the entire Warren Commission Report (all volumes) but only the summary.

Bugliosi’s point is that the JFK assassination was the most investigated crime in history, for a crime in which with the circumstances, witnesses and physical evidence at hand, he could have decisively convicted the perpetrator in few days under any other circumstances. He acknowledged that there are some inconsistencies, but as he mentioned in each of his other books I have read (”Helter Skelter” and “The Sea Will Tell”) there is no analysis of any event that does not have inconsistencies. The question is always whether those inconsistencies have enough relevance to counterbalance the solid evidence.


29 posted on 01/13/2013 6:29:38 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: castlegreyskull

After a man has his term as President fulfilled, he should just do as Harry Truman did.

Retire to his hime and STFU about how to run the world.


30 posted on 01/13/2013 6:46:26 AM PST by Venturer
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To: 98ZJ USMC
I was way too young to even remember JFK or RFK. I have,however, never shed a tear for those scumbags.

In spite of my white hot contempt for just about every Kennedy male I have a fair amount of respect for JFK.Unlike you,I'm old enough to remember him.Just go to youtube and search for his Inaugural Address,his speech at the Berlin Wall and his push for tax cuts.Beliefs like the ones he expressed in those speeches,and at other times,would have gotten him expelled from the party from the late 1960's on.I firmly believe that if he had lived long enough and had seen what happened to the Rat Party starting in the mid to late 60's he would have become a Republican.Just as my parents,and many members of their generation,did when they reached their 50's or 60's.

31 posted on 01/13/2013 6:46:31 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: castlegreyskull

After a man has his term as President fulfilled, he should just do as Harry Truman did.

Retire to his home and STFU about how to run the world.


32 posted on 01/13/2013 6:46:51 AM PST by Venturer
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To: fella

I don’t know who killed Kennedy, only that he made enemies of the Communists, the Federal Reserve, and the Mob hated him as well.

I think Kennedy got into office and found out who he was really working for and decided to be a President for the people, by the people......then was killed for it.

We’ll probably never know who commissioned his murder.


33 posted on 01/13/2013 6:50:52 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: fella

Connally didn’t believe the Magic Bullet Theory. Neither do I .

Arlen Specter was always a traitor.

I have always thought it was interesting how the S.S. guy throws up his arms like
“WTH????” shown in this video.


34 posted on 01/13/2013 6:55:11 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: fella
JFK was in Houston the day before going to Dallas. Mr Ditter who never had a clairvoyant thought before or since, was very anxious for Kennedy to get out of Houston because he feared something was going to happen to him and he didn't want it to happen in our city.

We saw Kennedy on the evening news at the Rice Hotel (I think) and my husband told me of his feelings. Very creepy memories.

35 posted on 01/13/2013 7:08:48 AM PST by Ditter
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To: fella

ALL Freepers need to read “Me and Lee” (maybe “Lee and Me” ?) and “Doctor Mary’s Monkey.” If you thought the world was not as it appeared, wait till you read these!!!

And if you are of a scientific bent, read “The Virus and the Vaccine.” These books will change your world view. I promise.

Mrs. Esopman


36 posted on 01/13/2013 7:26:05 AM PST by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere and Their Most Intelligent Designer)
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To: MagnoliaB
You can completely despise the Kennedy family but it's hard to ignore the evidence that pointed right to the government and LBJ. Especially if you grew up in that era. I would have never thought that blatant abuse of power could have happened again but it has.

I grew up in that era and recall all the events very well. I never saw even one bit of credible evidence pointing to LBJ or anyone else besides from Oswald.

37 posted on 01/13/2013 8:06:00 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Ouderkirk
Anyone who’s ever been to Dallas and looked at the “spot” you realize just hwo confined it is and how it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Anyone reasonably competent with a rifle could have gotten this done.

I totally agree. I have stood there on the 6th floor and looked out those windows. It was an easy shot from there.

38 posted on 01/13/2013 8:09:49 AM PST by Ditto
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To: rlmorel

I was doubter, until I read Bugliosi’s book


39 posted on 01/13/2013 8:18:35 AM PST by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: Ditto
I was 23 when JFK was killed,I grew up in Houston Texas in the LBJ era. I had a very conservative father who detested the liberal democrat Johnson but I never realized Johnson's real character until I read his biography, actually 3 bio’s by Robert A. Caro.

Johnson was a power hungry man who would do anything to be president. He realized that he was never going to be closer than VP as long as Kennedy was alive.

Robert A. Caro doesn't say this but while reading LBJ's bio’s this thought struck me like a bolt of lightning.

40 posted on 01/13/2013 8:24:55 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter
Johnson was a power hungry man who would do anything to be president. He realized that he was never going to be closer than VP as long as Kennedy was alive.

Most politicians are 'power hungry' but that does not make them conspire to kill the president.

And if LBJ was that damn obsessed about being president, -- obsessed enough to orchestrate an assassination, why did he just step down in 1968 instead of running for another term? He probably would have been re-elected if he had run.

41 posted on 01/13/2013 8:48:35 AM PST by Ditto
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To: gusopol3
He said his father had investigators do research into the assassination and found that phone records of Oswald...

Did Oswald even have a phone? The guy was living in flop houses and cheep little apartments and most of the time didn't even have a job.

42 posted on 01/13/2013 8:52:07 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Gay State Conservative

amen that Boss !! amen that


43 posted on 01/13/2013 8:54:56 AM PST by advertising guy (and as far as the Cookie Monster, was it really cookies ?)
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To: rlmorel

..the JFK assassination was the most investigated crime in history...

I’m with ya. I’ve actually read the Warren Report - not the 20 volume set - but the adequate and highly detailed summary, and have often referred to it when any new claim has been advanced.

Most important, with an alledged “conspiracy” supposedly involving many different branches of government OR organized crime OR foreign governments OR Marilyn Monroe, we are expected to believe that EVERYONE has been able to keep their mouth SHUT for 50 years !

Sad to say though, I can see the day, perhaps 50 years hence, JFK’s body will be exhumed, to satisfy another poorly researched conspiracy theory...


44 posted on 01/13/2013 8:56:02 AM PST by Paisan
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To: rlmorel

I have also read “Reclaiming History” and completely agree with your excellent post.


45 posted on 01/13/2013 9:04:26 AM PST by nicksaunt
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To: fella

The Warren Commission was conceived of from the very beginning as a rubber stamp and a coverup by LBJ. Read the book “The Assassination Tapes” by Holland. It’s mostly transcripts of White House tapes where LBJ is putting the commission together. It was always supposed to put a lid on any questions that might be raised. That’s not a theory - that’s what actually happened. Make of that what you will.


46 posted on 01/13/2013 9:08:05 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: fella

NetFlix has a propaganda hit piece (aka a documentary) that claims that Bush 41 did it. I refuse to watch it and give all hit piece documentaries, Micheal Moore movies and lefty life style shows a 1 star rating because there is no 0 star rating. I hope they will eventually not show up in my list.


47 posted on 01/13/2013 9:30:00 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: fella
I don't know if there was a second shooter, but there was definitely a second spitter:


48 posted on 01/13/2013 9:38:24 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: esopman

I have read Dr. Mary’s Monkey. It is well documented and foot noted. It is about time some Freepers started reading. There is more story of Lee Harvey. The one fact that no one can change is is true. Lee Harvey did not go to jail when he can back to the United States. Also the State Dept. paid for his return ticket. Why we would we do this for a defector? You on shooter people are idiots.


49 posted on 01/13/2013 9:40:53 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Ditto
I think he knew he would be defeated if he ran in 1968. He was not well liked and he could not afford the scrutiny, Heaven only know would would have been uncovered.
50 posted on 01/13/2013 10:36:53 AM PST by Ditter
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