Posted on 01/13/2013 4:05:24 AM PST by fella
Edited on 01/13/2013 8:36:37 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
The heck with all the evidence, he’s entitled to his own opinion, even though it’s not based on fact. What a dumb argument.
What’s his evidence of his claims? I haven’t seen any evidence of any claims against anyone except Lee Harvey Oswald. Nobody has come up with a thing to show anyone else had complicity in the murder but a single shooter. If they have any evidence, let’s see it.
The day after the failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion my neighbor across the street exclaimed, "Kennedy is a [deleted] traitor!" a sentiment shared by the Warren Commission liason to the Secret Service Elmer Moore who badgered Malcolm Perry all Friday night by phone to recant his description of the throat wound as one of entry.Dallas Parkland and its doctors treated hundreds of gsw's per annum and knew their profession--but Moore, Specter, Dulles and Liebeler had to pile on Perry--the cover was in place; there could be no deviation.
David Mantik has published results from viewing the best x-rays at the Archives and analyzed them with radiation densitometry, a tool of his profession as radiologist. His work appears six times in Douglas Horne's five-volume Inside the Assassination Record Review Board a compendium of its results from securing millions of pages of hitherto sealed documents in its four-year history.
An excellent, concise deconstruction of the Warren kabuki is Gerald D. McKnight, Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why. Also shedding light on the bias and omissions are Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, Sylvia Meagher, Accessories After the Fact, and a half dozen books by Harold Weisberg.
Vincent Bugliosi worked in two court proceedings in the RFK assassination (father of the author of the thread's essay) and was on the side of conspiracy, was the first choice (before William Turner and Jonn Christian) to do The Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy. Bugliosi declares if Oswald didn't kill Kennedy, Kennedy wasn't killed. Specious, as the first premise is true, the second not so much.
James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, 2008, in four hundred pages of footnoted text with one hundred pages of end notes, addresses the problem Kennedy posed.
In Donald Gibson, Battling Wall Street: The Kennedy Presidency, and Gerard Colby and Charlotte Dennett, Thy Will Be Done: The Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil, the policies of Kennedy ran counter to the prevailing Dulles-Rockefeller MIC business model.
LBJ has been presented as a prominent false sponsor by Craig I. Zirbel, Barr McClelland, Phil Nelson and others, while the late E. Howard Hunt through his son Saint John said as much in Bond of Secrecy. In Hunt's deathbed deflection might be seen a final act of loyalty by an OSS/CIA professional.
When Kennedy was shot I was with Young Americans for Freedom and under the urging of our organizer later national security figure Dick Allen went to their New York City convention the following year to draft Goldwater; thereafter to work door-to-door for him.
Kennedy's NSAM 263 of October 1963 would have withdrawn our 16,000 advisors from Vietnam. LBJ's Tonkin Gulf resolution began a decade of enormous effort, a proud warrior tradition betrayed by politicians.
Oswald enlisted 1956, learned Russian in government language training, was used as an agent by the ONI in California and Japan, sent as a false defector in 1959 and retrieved in 1962 after George DeMohrenschildt was tasked by CIA Domestic Contacts officer J. Walton Moore to guide the operative.
An operation was run on the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, employment was arranged in the "nest" building by the sister of a CIA agent whose husband's mother was best friends with Dulles' mistress, and Dulles himself bragged he'd visited this person the month of the assassination.
Lee Oswald's last call Saturday night was to John Hurt in North Carolina his ONI handler cutout.
He played a role as an operative for ONI, FBI, CIA and was killed by a relocated Chicago thug who'd been in telephone contact with associates of Marcello, Trafficante, Roselli, Hoffa, Civello and others. Patrick Dean was responsible for security; Ruby walked into the building, down the stairs, was alerted by two horn honks, and enabled by Will Fritz fleeing point leaving a clear path for silencing the patsy.
Had Nixon been able to take Cook County back from its graveyards, Castro would be pushing up tobacco.
As it is Posner writes a fawning regurgiation of the Dulles Commission, then defends Ahmed Walid Karzai in the New York Times against charges of being a CIA tool and a drug lord, until the brother of the Afghan ruler is deemed too hot and assassinated.
Thank you Agatha Christi. But reality is that murders happen for all kind of reasons even if no one benefits.
Kennedy's murder was not a 'who done it" unless you care to run down a rat trail of ever less probable or even possible scenarios.
But the conspiracy hustlers have made many millions of dollars off people who are logic challenged or simple can not accept that a total loser like Oswald could have made a couple of shots from a window that most novice shooters could have easily made as well.
Give me some facts, not convoluted or implausible theories.
Yet Humphrey who promised to continue Johnosn's policies (and the war) won the nomination and narroly lost to Nixon in the election. LBJ could have easily won the nomination and the election if he had wanted. The convention was still machine dominated then and LBJ controlled the machine.
Why Johnson decided to make that speech in March or April (as I recall) of 1968 where he said he would step down is a matter of conjecture. But some have reported that LBJ was a life-long manic-depressive, and he was in one of his depressive moods then and no one was able to stop him from giving that address.
There have been reports that he damn near did the same thing in 1964 when he was in one of his depressions and only his wife was able to talk him out of it.
These Kennedys just won’t go away.
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Conspiracy kooks are here to stay.
Humphrey did narrowly lose to Nixon. But LBJ could not have known that in March of 1968 as that was 8 months in the future. And .... you didn’t appreciate my point. I don’t think that LBJ was worried about losing to Nixon! I think LBJ was worried about losing the nomination to RFK! Who he obviously hated!
That was the point then and that was my point today. McCarthy’s showing in NH opened the door for RFK and having lived through that time that was very common knowledge at the time. And of course nobody then would have known that RFK himself would be dead a few months later.
LBJ as manic-depressive? No doubt about it - I completely agree. And sure that probably played a role as well, in addition to the state of his health (coronary atherosclerosis), his political calculations vis a vis RFK and the situation regarding Vietnam.
it’s obvious to me ... the Tea Party did it.
That was my first thought too. I stood in the sixth floor and looked down and thought, "what an easy shot this would have been." And Oswald had a 4x scope to boot!
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