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6 Ridiculous Myths About the Middle Ages Everyone Believes (contains offensive language)
Cracked ^ | January 13, 2013 | Steve Kolenberg

Posted on 01/13/2013 12:37:34 PM PST by EveningStar

When you think of the Middle Ages, chances are you picture gallant knights sitting astride brilliant destriers galloping through a sea of plagues, ignorance, and filth. And you can hardly be blamed for that, when everything from the movies you watch to your high school history teacher (who was mainly the football coach) has told you that ...

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I cannot vouch for the accuracy of this article but it is interesting.
1 posted on 01/13/2013 12:37:44 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
"Around the same time as universities were popping up all over Europe, the Crusades were bringing Europeans into contact with advanced Muslim ideas of science and technology. Ideas like the compass and the astrolabe came to the West via Muslim Spain and came in handy during the later Age of Exploration. Italian merchants came back from trading in North Africa and gave us another innovation: Arabic numerals."

Arabs had nothing to do with the invention of the modern place-value based, base-10 numerals which replaced the cumbersome and impractical Roman numerals. Guess the original source of that invention...

2 posted on 01/13/2013 12:44:20 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

India?


3 posted on 01/13/2013 12:46:17 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: James C. Bennett

From what I’ve read there were a few scientists in Muslim countries. However most of them were killed.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 12:46:46 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: EveningStar

A lot of men also go bald around the middle ages.


5 posted on 01/13/2013 12:48:53 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: EveningStar

I think the Powers That Be want to bring back serfdom — and the next version of serfdom is probably going to be a lot less pleasant than the Medieval version.


6 posted on 01/13/2013 12:49:01 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

very true and it wasn’t pleasant then either


7 posted on 01/13/2013 12:50:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: EveningStar

That was fun. Thanks.


8 posted on 01/13/2013 12:51:23 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Indeed it was India.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 12:53:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: EveningStar
Juvenile language is offputting.
10 posted on 01/13/2013 12:54:50 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: EveningStar

“Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!”

Middle Ages thread means Monty Python. It’s tradition.

“Bring out your dead!” (Clang)


11 posted on 01/13/2013 12:55:26 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: EveningStar
When you think of the Middle Ages, chances are you picture gallant knights sitting astride brilliant destriers galloping

Nah. I know they didn't have horses, and used coconuts instead.


12 posted on 01/13/2013 12:56:06 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - Rene "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Yeah, it was the Indians, they needed to record how many scalps they took.
13 posted on 01/13/2013 12:56:33 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Damn. I forgot the warning.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 12:56:52 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

This article is so wrong about a number of things, that there’s no saving it.

#6 was the best one and most accurate, at least in my own opinion.

Oldplayer


15 posted on 01/13/2013 12:57:15 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: EveningStar

I first read the title wrong....I thought it stated The Myths of Middle Age!

D’oh!


16 posted on 01/13/2013 1:01:27 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: EveningStar

People knew the Earth was spherical long before mohammed came along.


17 posted on 01/13/2013 1:01:35 PM PST by fso301
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To: EveningStar

Good article! I can vouch for a number of the things mentioned. The Church did indeed keep the flame of literacy and scholarship alive in the western half of Europe. Likewise, European knights were often more like a biker gang than anything in Mallory’s Le Morte D’Arthur. Always looking for a rumble, and not always very nice to innocent bystanders.

I also agree with the part about life being better for the average peasant than is sometimes believed. It was not an easy life, to be sure. The diet was bland and the work was hard. A crop failure meant disaster. Then there was that whole serfdom thing. But in good years, life was better than one might suspect. English peasants in particular, lived pretty well by the standards of that age. I recently read an article that stated English peasants in the mid-late Medieval period actually had a higher standard of living than many citizens of 3rd world countries today.

I think the sections on women in Medieval Europe and the part about sexual beliefs of the times are a little bit incomplete. What they have is true, but both topics were a bit more complicated and involved than the article is making out, IMHO.


18 posted on 01/13/2013 1:02:40 PM PST by DemforBush (You might very well think that. I could not *possibly* comment.)
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To: James C. Bennett; driftdiver

The role Muslim dominated Spain had in the renaissance of Western Europe in the High Middle Ages has been way overblown. And Driftdriver is right. Many of the early Muslim scientists were not Arabs. They were Assyrians who already were experts in science before the Arab Muslims showed up. Muslims later turned against much of the scientific development they themselves had helped foster. The Muslim world gradually became a backwater - and remained one until now. The Jordanian Minister of Education (maybe it was Culture?) admited a few years ago that the entire Arab Muslim world translated fewer books into Arabic over its entire history (1400 years) than Spain translates into Spanish in a single year. BACKWATER!


19 posted on 01/13/2013 1:03:30 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: James C. Bennett; oldplayer; All
My disclaimer in the initial post can apply to all too many Cracked articles. :(
20 posted on 01/13/2013 1:05:04 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Jack Hydrazine
We'd known nothing of the Indian numerals for many centuries if it hadn't been for Arabs moving in and conquering most of the Indus valley and imposing Islam.

There was an upside to some of that stuff!,

The piece starts out with an error ~ imagining that the Dark Ages started in some sort of association with the Fall of Rome, the arrival of barbarians, etc. Actually, there was a climate anomaly that followed what may have been a serious comet strike somewhere in the North Atlantic ~ in 535 AD! Tree rings show something really bad happened that left Europe without summer weather for maybe as long as 7 years ~ just enough to depopulate and economically destroy all of Western and Northern Europe ~ took them back to a level even lower than found in Eastern Europe.

After that everything that went on in Western Europe was a step up!~

21 posted on 01/13/2013 1:07:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: EveningStar

An interesting element of the pre-Industrial age that was so typical that nobody made a point about it, had historians puzzled for many years. They kept noticing references to “first sleep” and “second sleep”, until finally it clicked.

Almost nobody slept the night through. Halfway through the night, everybody would get up for an hour or three, to stoke the fire, go to the toilet, likely prepare bread that would be risen in time to bake fresh for breakfast, whatever; and then they would all go back to bed until before morning, when they would get up for pre-dawn farm chores.

Such a sleep pattern made all sorts of sense when you lived an agrarian life. However, with industrialism, people would “work all day and sleep all night.”

However, after all those years on a two-sleep pattern, we seem to have physically and psychologically adapted to it; which may explain all the sleep problems that exist today.

But what about people who still live an agrarian life? The answer to that is that the two-sleep pattern only seems to have existed in the Temperate climates. North of there, darkness prevails much of the year, so the middle of the night is the same as the middle of the day. And South of there, in more Tropical climate, different sleep patterns as well, because of an abundance of light.

But Industrialism came to the Temperate climates first.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 1:10:37 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think the Powers That Be want to bring back serfdom — and the next version of serfdom is probably going to be a lot less pleasant than the Medieval version.

You're right, ClearCase_guy, with this difference: the obligations will be a one- rather than two-way street. Feudalism depended upon paired obligations. People higher up the social pyramid had obligations to those lower down as well as to those above themselves.

The self-styled "progressives" who've eviscerated our constitutional republic in all but name and replaced it with an oligarchy regard the obligations as proceeding as they did in the Soviet Union and still do in communist China: only up the pyramid. We of the vast majority owe the very few who rules us unquestioning obedience, whereas the very few owe us nothing. They view us more as cattle than serfs.

23 posted on 01/13/2013 1:12:21 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: driftdiver

And the only Pakistani Nobel Prize winner is virtually unknown in his home country because he was part of a politically disfavored religious minority.


24 posted on 01/13/2013 1:29:47 PM PST by tbw2
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To: James C. Bennett; driftdiver

The role Muslim dominated Spain had in the renaissance of Western Europe in the High Middle Ages has been way overblown. And Driftdriver is right. Many of the early Muslim scientists were not Arabs. They were Assyrians who already were experts in science before the Arab Muslims showed up. Muslims later turned against much of the scientific development they themselves had helped foster. The Muslim world gradually became a backwater - and remained one until now. The Jordanian Minister of Education (maybe it was Culture?) admited a few years ago that the entire Arab Muslim world translated fewer books into Arabic over its entire history (1400 years) than Spain translates into Spanish in a single year. BACKWATER!


25 posted on 01/13/2013 1:35:43 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: James C. Bennett

And the compass was invented in China.


26 posted on 01/13/2013 1:40:34 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: James C. Bennett

And the compass was invented in China.


27 posted on 01/13/2013 1:41:19 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: James C. Bennett
No, pre- Muslim Arabs were advanced. Islam killed research and innovation.
28 posted on 01/13/2013 1:43:52 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: vladimir998

True. Much of “Islamic civilization” is claiming the civilization built up in Persia and Egypt prior to Islamic conquest plus, perhaps, a minor flowering with the mixture of ideas after conquering but before the majority was Muslim.


29 posted on 01/13/2013 1:44:04 PM PST by tbw2
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To: fso301
Mohamed was illiterate.
30 posted on 01/13/2013 1:45:44 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: vladimir998

I get sick of how they don’t teach the history of Islam and the atrocities committed through Jihad. My daughter is learning about the crusades and she doesn’t learn what evils the Muslims did but only that the crusades were the cause of anger in the Muslim world towards Christians.


31 posted on 01/13/2013 1:49:28 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: EveningStar

No where in this article was this time period defined and in one reference was commingled with the “Dark Age(s)”. So basically this writer is describing myths in a period ranging from 450 to 1550 or so in Europe. Try defining something like that for the past 1100 years in our country. History miss-mash at best.


32 posted on 01/13/2013 2:05:33 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: EveningStar
For a more complete (and less juvenile) treatment of this same topic, I'd recommend:

Those Terrible Middle Ages

The Politically Incorrect Guide to Western Civilization

33 posted on 01/13/2013 2:07:14 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: dragonblustar

Yeah, that’s common. If your daughter is too young to tackle these books herself, you might want to pick these up and tell her about their contents:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Legacy-Jihad-Islamic-Non-Muslims/dp/1591026024/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358114420&sr=8-1&keywords=jihad

http://www.amazon.com/Jihad-West-Muslim-Conquests-Centuries/dp/1573922471/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1358114428&sr=8-3&keywords=jihad

http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Islam-Crusades/dp/0895260131/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358114498&sr=8-2&keywords=dhimmi

http://www.amazon.com/Islam-Dhimmitude-Where-Civilizations-Collide/dp/0838639437/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1358114533&sr=8-14&keywords=dhimmi


34 posted on 01/13/2013 2:09:11 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I heard the 'dunlap' also made its appearance in the middle ages...


tires invented so long ago?
35 posted on 01/13/2013 2:12:08 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: fidelis; EveningStar

And I would add: http://www.amazon.com/Catholic-Church-Built-Western-Civilization/dp/0895260387/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1358114743&sr=1-4&keywords=thomas+woods


36 posted on 01/13/2013 2:12:20 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
"The role Muslim dominated Spain had in the renaissance of Western Europe in the High Middle Ages has been way overblown."

I think the reintroduction of western Europe with Roman and Greek culture at Constantinople, during the Crusades, had more to do with the Renaissance than anything the muslims brought to the table. Roman culture survived at Constantinople for a thousand years after Rome had fallen and was a revelation to the Crusaders passing through on their way to fight the saracens. Byzantine art and architecture greatly influenced the Gothic style that appeared in Europe shortly after the First Crusade ended.

37 posted on 01/13/2013 2:39:30 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Temperate zones?

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

38 posted on 01/13/2013 2:39:50 PM PST by Scoutmaster (End it now (enditmovement.com))
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To: SES1066
No where in this article was this time period defined and in one reference was commingled with the “Dark Age(s)”. So basically this writer is describing myths in a period ranging from 450 to 1550 or so in Europe. Try defining something like that for the past 1100 years in our country. History miss-mash at best.

True, but look at it as an example of how to reach the low information voters out there.

39 posted on 01/13/2013 3:04:04 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: hinckley buzzard
Juvenile language is offputting.

I lasted about two paragraphs and knew it wasn't going to get better. Horribly juvenile...about 7th grade or so.

40 posted on 01/13/2013 3:24:27 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: muawiyah

The Krakatoa volcano erupted in 535ad and might have been responsible for the climate shifts at that time.
http://customers.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/535ad.htm


41 posted on 01/13/2013 3:27:30 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: vladimir998

About 1000 AD the middle east suffered an enormous disaster ~ they were conquered by Mongols and Turks ~ for the next 900 years the Arabs were just a conquered people suitable only for tax payments.


42 posted on 01/13/2013 3:35:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: dragonblustar
The Crusades were initially conducted to open the routes to the Holy land back up to both Christian and Moslem pilgrims ~ it had been the TURKS, not the Arabs, who'd shut things down.
43 posted on 01/13/2013 3:37:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: EveningStar; BykrBayb
Heh. I thought this was 6 myths about middle age. Poorer vision not being one of them! ;o)
44 posted on 01/13/2013 3:40:51 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi... the TRAVESTY continues)
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To: Scoutmaster
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

Only when attached to swallows.

45 posted on 01/13/2013 3:56:31 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Flag_This
During the Reconquista, which took about 700 years, two Spanish kingdoms worked like a hammer and anvil to break up Moslem principalities, and then absorb them (that's what the Castile and Leon are about ~ and there had been a Carvajal, but it was early absorbed since it turned out it wasn't needed).

This is just about the longest war in human history actually undertaken for a purpose.

During that long war the strongest most powerful non-Moslem nation in Western or Northern Europe was a consortium of Brythonic Celtic speaking principalities located in what are now called Cornwal and Brittany. It was customary for 2, 3, 4, 5th sons of nobles to ship out to Spain to join in the Reconquista for the purpose of gaining glory, farmland, towns ~ and rank. Today an incredibly high percentage of Spanish noble names are actually Cornish or Breton sentences that relate to formal occupations or positions taken during cavalry line ups!

Too much credit is given to Charles Martel ~ he was a layabout who drank too much and had too many wives. The real knights who won Spain were from that other place!

A regular objective of the Christian knights was to find a library and seize it. Once done the Catholic Church and wealthy magnates would sendin scholars to review the books and send them North to be copied and distributed throughout Europe. Several such libraries over the centuries were sufficiently well stocked to allow Western Europeans in the Northern redoubts (Belgium) to initiate INDUSTRIALIZATION!

Spain itself had as close to an industrialized population as any nation up to the 1300s in Belgium ~ anywhere in the world ~ the people staffing it were called Jews. Medieval Sephardic names frequently reflect a Jewish industrial occupation ~ e.g. Schmidlap(spelled many ways) Is a ladino word meaning 'sheet maker/painter' ~ in effect, someone who made paper. And who can forget the famous Bookbinder family ~ and so forth. (That's only a sample ~ anyone who already studied latin or spanish can go learn ladino on the net and get into this ancient language ~ it explains so very much about Catholic and Jewish history in Spain)

Whatever else Europeans were doing to each other politically or economically, when it came to the war against the moors, they were all in it together. As Protestantism rose, both Catholic and Protestant soldiers went to fight the Turks in the Balkans, or along the Mediterranean shore ~ Captain John Smith was a veteran of those wars and understood Turkish. He was selected to head up the Virginia colony because it was believed Turkish was in widespread use already on the Eastern seaboard ~ which it was, in a way. The Spanish sent many of their POWs captured in Mediterranean battles to a POW camp in South Carolina!

From the grandest palace to the most humble mud and stick hovel, Europeans were, in fact, united against the Saracen in ways we can scarcely imagine for most of that 700 years.

46 posted on 01/13/2013 3:58:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: dirtboy
So dirtboy, you ready for the next election?

This time no more RINOs

47 posted on 01/13/2013 4:01:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: EveningStar

Watch out for the rabbits from that time

extremely vicious.


48 posted on 01/13/2013 4:17:28 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: muawiyah

Please tell me what that has to do with a Monty Python reference?

Not all threads have to be serious.


49 posted on 01/13/2013 4:35:00 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: vladimir998
The Jordanian Minister of Education...admited a few years ago that the entire Arab Muslim world translated fewer books into Arabic over its entire history (1400 years) than Spain translates into Spanish in a single year. BACKWATER!

That professor is a very impressive representative for Jordan.

Have you seen him in videos?

≡≡8-O

50 posted on 01/13/2013 4:39:41 PM PST by Does so (Dims don't think ... they PLOT!)
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