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Posted on 01/14/2013 2:20:53 PM PST by Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

Does anybody have any positive stories about the use of antidepressants? My doctor wants to put me on them because of chronic pain, but after everything I've read on FR I'm scared to death of them.

Sorry for the vanity, but I can't think of a better bunch of folks to get feed-back from.


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1 posted on 01/14/2013 2:20:57 PM PST by Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

Like with anything, it effects people differently. What specific med was your doctor wanting to put you on ?


2 posted on 01/14/2013 2:23:19 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

You’ll get a lot of anecdotal and amateur opinions, but one thing is for sure, it’s often a good idea to get a second opinion from a different doctor for any major health decision


3 posted on 01/14/2013 2:24:25 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

If you’ve got a good doctor who will keep close tabs on you and you have a good relationship with him they should be fine. I’m assuming that you would also know if there was a problem and needed to quit taking them (slowly)


4 posted on 01/14/2013 2:24:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

My doctor put me on amitriptalene (sp) type drug due to chronic core body pain.

I was on it a week and my mind got incredibly fuzzy..

I took myself off of it because I HATED what it did to my mind, i felt like I was on a triple dosage of NYQUIL constantly.

I told the doctor I would just live with the pain, recently I had surgery that resolved the issue and no more pain, so i chose to live without the drugs for half a decade in pain that have my mind foggy.


5 posted on 01/14/2013 2:27:46 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

I meant to say i opted for the pain vs. being a drugged up zombie.


6 posted on 01/14/2013 2:28:58 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

I have seen several people with severe depression brighten up dramatically after using the correct medication. I have heard of antidepressants being used as an adjunct for things like chronic pain but I have no real knowledge of this. They do have side effects and require monitoring.


7 posted on 01/14/2013 2:32:31 PM PST by iowamark
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

There are alot of variables, which you probably don’t want to disclose here: gender, age, family history of depression, are there family members who can monitor any mood changes, etc....and how long have you known/trusted this doctor.

My non-medical opinion would be that your initial concern is indicative that you would be a careful user of them.

And, your doctor’s medical opinion seems to be that they would be useful to you.

So, I’d give it a try.


8 posted on 01/14/2013 2:32:48 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

Ive taken Zoloft for about 10 years for panic attacks, It works like a charm. I don’t notice any side effects either.


9 posted on 01/14/2013 2:36:06 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

Yes, my father was put on Paxil after my mother died. He had been a joy as a father until a major automobile accident began causing him chronic pain when I was a teen, and he had become increasingly depressed and difficult and angry through the years. After he was put on Paxil, not knowing that it was an anti-depressant, he became once again the wonderful man I had known when I was young. It was a great gift to us in his last years to once again be able to see his angelically sweet smile and know that he was enjoying life. And his physical pain did get better along with the emotional pain.

The Paxil helped in another way, too: it reduced his appetite, which means it reduced his weight, and that meant less pain and pressure on the areas where he was injured and better overall health.

There had been times when this incredibly brave man, a WWII vet with a Silver Star and two Bronze Stars to his credit, was suffering so much he seriously considered killing himself. Thank God this stuff rescued him.


10 posted on 01/14/2013 2:37:00 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

My uncle was prescribed Xanax for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. He says he took them for three weeks, but then he threw them away because they gave him terrible nightmares. He said the “good feeling” wasn’t worth it.


11 posted on 01/14/2013 2:37:46 PM PST by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: GraceG
I took myself off of it because I HATED what it did to my mind, i felt like I was on a triple dosage of NYQUIL constantly.

 

IIRC, even being on some antidepressents for as little as a week requires careful doctor supervision if you discontinue. Some meds you just can't quit cold turkey.

12 posted on 01/14/2013 2:38:32 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
"Does anybody have any positive stories about the use of antidepressants?"

Not me,stay away from any doctor that prescribes them.

13 posted on 01/14/2013 2:39:41 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

I did some investigation and am taking Cymbalta for chronic pain of fibromyalgia. Wish I had tried it earlier. It doesn’t completely end the pain, but enough to allow me to live somewhat normally.
As mentioned by someone else, people are affected differently by specific medications. I would advise investigating online whatever drugs your physician recommends, then try what seems reasonable to you. For example, Lyrica is also recommended for fibro, but I wouldn’t touch it with a ten-foot pole.
Personally, I have absolutely no side effects with Cymbalta.

Good luck, I hope you find relief.


14 posted on 01/14/2013 2:43:32 PM PST by Mare (Hey Barack America is Baroke!)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
but after everything I've read on FR I'm scared to death of them.

...and there is your problem. Don't take medical advice from anonymous people on the internet.

15 posted on 01/14/2013 2:45:07 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

Took dep meds for 10 or so years. After a few hits and misses, we locked in on a dosage and med that worked.

There were side effects (they all have one thing or another). But the “moods” smoothed out.

The downside was when I decided that I wanted to go natural. I was able to do that BUT the withdrawl symptoms from the med (all documented but more severe than I anticipated) were as close as I could imagine being on acid or some other mind altering drug. It was an interesting week or so.


16 posted on 01/14/2013 2:46:37 PM PST by llevrok (ObamaLand - Where young people go to retire)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

Citalopram, generic Celexa, 20 mg daily, few or no side effects, feel better, less anger and should be added to water supply along with low level of fluoride and we all would be nicer.


17 posted on 01/14/2013 2:46:50 PM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha; neverdem

I’m very sorry you are in pain LTZA, but why would antidepressants be prescribed because of chronic pain?

Aren’t antidepressants used to treat people who shouldn’t be depressed, but are anyway, due to a chemical imbalance in the brain?

Wouldn’t correcting the chronic pain lift the depression?

Innocent question. I’m just trying to understand.


18 posted on 01/14/2013 2:49:20 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

took prozac for 1.5 yr, nothing bad to report


19 posted on 01/14/2013 2:49:35 PM PST by billphx
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

My daughter has been taking them for a few months. She takes the absolute lowest dose possible.
She had three major surgeries in two months, and the doctor felt her depression although related to the surgery would help her with pain.
She is feeling well and healthy now so the dosage is being eliminated but it helped her over the hump.
Just follow your doctors instruction and tell them of your concerns.


20 posted on 01/14/2013 2:54:00 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
As inappropriate as it is to attempt to move from the general to the specific case, I will nonetheless repeat what my now-deceased, not-easily-given-to-gross-generalization Doctor of Pharmacy (for 25 years) wife related to me in the months before she passed (of cancer).

She was working part-time at Walgreens and saw what she considered to be a dramatically-growing overprescription of anti-depresssants that she openly worried about the society that blithely accepted such forces that allowed and/or foisted upon its population such overmedication. She thought the insulation of the populace from the true costs, via insurance paying the lion's share, was unexpectedly a major, contributing culprit. It was her chief professional complaint from a fairly short list.

HF

21 posted on 01/14/2013 2:56:01 PM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: mnehring; Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
Don't take medical advice from anonymous people on the internet.

What he said.

You have the opinion of a medical practitioner with a rigorous program in biology and chemistry and an advanced post-graduate degree, probably years of experience and a personal relationship, and you're soliciting the opinions of anonymous amateurs. Don't do that. If you want another opinion, see another doctor.

22 posted on 01/14/2013 2:56:20 PM PST by FredZarguna (In a well-regulated FReeper den, the right to create and deploy antimatter shall not be infringed.)
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To: llevrok; Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

I concur. Great product for me. The mood sine wave has totally flattened out.

Going on and coming off can make it a wild ride, all right.


23 posted on 01/14/2013 2:57:29 PM PST by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

I’ve had several doctors over the years try antidepressants for my pain. None of them ever actually worked on the pain, but some of the ones that caused drowsiness were nice because they helped me sleep. (Until I developed a tolerance for them, which I seem to do fairly quickly.)

Right now my doctor is trying one to treat my hyperacusis (hyper-sensitive hearing). Hasn’t had any effect so far, but I’ve only been on it for a week.

I’ve never had any that actually altered my moods. All they do is make me drowsy.


24 posted on 01/14/2013 2:59:30 PM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: fanfan

Sometimes, the same alterations to the chemical balance of the brain can diminish pain perception, as well as affecting moods.


25 posted on 01/14/2013 3:05:21 PM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: RicocheT

What would happen to the people who felt fine in the first place?


26 posted on 01/14/2013 3:06:43 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: Ellendra

Thanks Ellendra.


27 posted on 01/14/2013 3:08:14 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: RicocheT
should be added to water supply along with low level of fluoride and we all would be nicer.

I heard that that was how the therapeutic properties of lithium was discovered. Apparently there was a town (in Texas IIRC) that had a lower crime rate than the rest of the state by several orders of magnitude. They discovered that it was sitting on a lithium deposit which was leaching into the water supply.

28 posted on 01/14/2013 3:23:13 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I took myself off of it because I HATED what it did to my mind, i felt like I was on a triple dosage of NYQUIL constantly.

IIRC, even being on some antidepressents for as little as a week requires careful doctor supervision if you discontinue. Some meds you just can’t quit cold turkey.

I ramped down even though the dose was very small to begin with. I hated the haziness the drugs did.


29 posted on 01/14/2013 3:24:09 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

My 18 year old daughter takes Cymbalta, 60 mg for chronic pain in her joints. The only side effect she has is fatigue, so she takes it before she goes to bed.


30 posted on 01/14/2013 3:25:55 PM PST by melissa_in_ga (Laz would hit it.)
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To: fanfan; Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha; neverdem

It’s probably being prescribed for an “off-label” use or even could be used for pain relief. Many “side effects” can have their own therapeutic value; I’m taking an AD for insomnia.


31 posted on 01/14/2013 3:26:36 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

I agree that this isn’t the place to get advice. Talk to a knowledgable health professional. Look at all the different opinions that are already being given.
If you have anxiety and depression due to the pain, then you should see a psychiatrist...one who is good with diagnoses.
Primary care MD’s don’t know jack squat about prescriptions
for mental health issues.


32 posted on 01/14/2013 3:29:18 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

The right meds prescribed by the right doctor you trust(hands-on and monitoring you) and combined with other therapies (counseling, alternative pain therapy like massage and acupuncture, etc) will improve the quality of your life

Wellbutrin and counseling has pulled my teenage daughter out of a very black hole and is giving her a life as a fairly normal teenager able to experience and handle fairly normal emotional cycles


33 posted on 01/14/2013 3:30:54 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: GraceG

I’m taking the same product for insomnia- low dose at bedtime so I’m fine the next day. I can see how it could be a problem for you if you have to take it during the day.


34 posted on 01/14/2013 3:31:55 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: jespasinthru

Xanax is not an antidepressant.


35 posted on 01/14/2013 3:32:16 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: fanfan

It is not at all unusual to prescribe SSRIs off-label for chronic idiopathic pain or even pain of known origin. The idea is that it permits the patient to handle the pain better and it sometimes works. In some cases neuropathic pain actually diminishes.


36 posted on 01/14/2013 3:36:58 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

He can’t fix your problem, so he just wants to shut you up.


37 posted on 01/14/2013 3:42:29 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

My X was on them when she tried to shoot me & missed. Thankfully, she was maxed out on effexor & she didn’t remember either.

A win-win for both of us.

Good luck.


38 posted on 01/14/2013 3:43:44 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

I took Cymbalta for a couple of years to help with post surgical neuropathy - Lyrica and Gabapentin did little to ofer any relief.

I can say that they helped A BIT. I could notice a difference in discomfort level after being on Cymbalta for about a month. That said, I will never do it again. The horrid experience, for me, was getting off Cymbalta. Even following a rigid titration schedule to reduce the dosage left me with unbearable side effects, the worst of which was “brain tremors” - Yes, brain tremors!


39 posted on 01/14/2013 3:46:14 PM PST by RobertClark (It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we'r)
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To: cripplecreek
If you’ve got a good doctor who will keep close tabs on you

I would also like to see at least one knowledgeable family member monitor an individual beginning antidepressant therapy, looking for rapid mood swings and uncharacteristic behavior. I know from personal experience it is difficult to recognize these changes in one's self.

needed to quit taking them (slowly)

I would also concur on the slow withdrawal. Under no circumstances should the antidepressant patient discontinue abruptly, even if the doctor says so (unless hospitalized). Wise patients will taper down over what seems like a ridiculously prolonged period, to maybe 1/10 tablet. Again, I speak from personal experience on (SSRI/SNRI) discontinuation syndrome.

40 posted on 01/14/2013 3:46:40 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: RobertClark
the worst of which was “brain tremors” - Yes, brain tremors!

Also called brain zaps and brain shivers, though I thankfully didn't ever experience them.

41 posted on 01/14/2013 3:50:28 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
I will put in my usual plug for over-the-counter SAM-e (assuming you are in the United states -- by Rx many other places). SSRIs pooped out on me and I was sick of the side effects -- one day couldn't even read FR -- my vision was too blurry and both eyes had jerky movements (nystagmus), not to mention onset and discontinuation problems. I really don't want to be arrested for yelling and screaming for no reason and other problems, too.

Anyway, back to SAM-e (Nature Made is a good brand), studies show about equivalent effectiveness to SSRIs and is generally well tolerated. It is not inexpensive, however. The only side effect I have is increased visual floaters, which is common with prescription antidepressants also. Read up on the methylation cycle.

Other OTC antidepressant such as St. John's Wort and 5-HTP make me worse. YMMV.

42 posted on 01/14/2013 4:00:52 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
I was once prescribed an extremely low dose of Prozac to help recover from the long term physical weakness of a viral disease. It worked immediately, and I had no side affects.(it was instead of six months bed rest) I quit it after about four months, because I felt “cured”. I was.

About ten years later, I asked for it again for another medical condition, and couldn’t tolerate it at all.
Very bad reaction, very first dose.

If you trust your doctor, give it a try.
But monitor yourself closely, and it doesn’t hurt to also have a close friend or family member do so, along with your doctor, especially the first few days and weeks, and again when you are ending the treatment.

43 posted on 01/14/2013 4:02:30 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

Once the gubmint gets total control of medical records they will use that info to deny 2nd amendment rights individually. I would be very cautious taking any medications that are not life sustaining.


44 posted on 01/14/2013 4:16:56 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Squawk 8888

Well it also depends on the individual, some people are more sensitive to side effects than others.


45 posted on 01/14/2013 4:17:38 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha
You might want to find a doctor (for a 2nd opinion) that wishes to heal you, not just cover up your symptoms. For arthritic pain, I take 15 tablets a day (when I can afford it; this was prescribed by my doctor) of Wobenzym (can be found online or at health food stores), and it works VERY well.

P.S. Probably one of the best things I've ever done for my health was to give up coffee. There's a lot online about caffeine toxicity. (Also, have you tried acupuncture?)
46 posted on 01/14/2013 4:26:32 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

I suffer from a condition called Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy, it is very painful.
I can tell you that just about nothing I know of will wear you down faster, or ruin your quality of life as much as chronic pain will.

I am being treated with Cymbalta and Lyrica as well, both with wonderful results.
Anti-depressants help to adjust your brains perception of pain, and that is why it is used.

Amytriptyline can induce sleepiness, or “fogginess” in quite a few people. It is a good med for pain, but one that should be taken at bedtime.

I will tell you that I am also a Medical Technician, and know a great deal about medications, as I dispense them for a living.
You have nothing to lose by trying a med to see if it works for you, don’t “nay say” it without trying it first.

Every single med you take from aspirin on up, does something over and above what you want it to do.
That doesn’t mean that it may affect YOU adversely.
Give it a try and good luck!


47 posted on 01/14/2013 4:40:12 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

After having my son I had a bout of post-partum psychosis, complete with hallucinations. My doctor put me on Nortriptyline and I really believe that it saved my life. The trick was to step it up GRADUALLY and bring it down GRADUALLY. I was on the peak dose for only nine months.

As far as I was concerned, it was like wearing a cast while a broken leg was healing. Once the break healed, I could let the cast and crutches go.

My friend is doing great on Zoloft.

I did have a terrible time on Prozac. It left me suicidal.

Everyone is different. As long as your doctor is very careful and as long as you’re aware of the dangers, I’d try it. Just know, if you start having negative side effects, don’t keep pushing the drug. Side effects don’t improve with time. (That is a myth)


48 posted on 01/14/2013 4:40:34 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

I was on and off anti depressants for 20 years and also had chronic body pain the last 7 yrs or so. I was at the massage therapist, chiropractor and/or acupuncturist every week.

Then my husband got fibromyalgia (also chronic body pain). We hit every main stream and outskirt doctor that existed, all to no avail. They all wanted to put him on steroids or pain killers, etc. I started doing MASSIVE research and found that all of his body pain was due to magnesium deficiency. We put him on double the RDA of mag malate and I, simultaneously, started taking it too. His body pain went completely away and I went off anti depressants and never went back to the other 3. This was 6 years ago.

Magnesium is a TRUE miracle from God. Remember, from the dust we are made...dust is dirt and dirt is minerals and mag is the most important mineral we need.


49 posted on 01/14/2013 4:43:38 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Lima_Two_Zero_Alpha

My back is completely destroyed and I was going to have to take disability and quit working. My doc tried for 2 years to get me to try the Cymbalta but I refused, not believing an antidepressant would help acute back pain. When the pain got so bad I finally told her I would try it. Took it at bedtime and in the morning the shooting pains down the back of my legs was gone. Been taking it ever since.

Cymbalta used to be an “off-label” for pain, but now is actually on label. My only problem was taking the full dose at night gave me such horrible indigestion I couldn’t stand it. Plus, it would seem to stop working in less than 24 hours. Now I take 1/2 the dose twice a day and it works like a charm.

The back pain is still awful and constant, and getting worse each month, but the shooting pains are gone most of the times. Once in a while the weather will trigger a bad day, but mostly I can live with it for now. I know I will eventually have to take disability, but each month I can stay self-sufficient is a happy month for me.

I told my doc that after my mistrust of her suggestion on the Cymbalta that if she told me eating raw frogs would relieve my back pain, I eat as many as she prescribed.

So, moral of the story? Work with your doc and keep communication lines open.


50 posted on 01/14/2013 4:50:47 PM PST by CH3CN (Two in the bush saves nine.)
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