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Germans build, successfully test laser weapon
Fox News ^ | 1/14/2013 | Allison Barrie

Posted on 01/14/2013 4:28:28 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba

A German company used a futuristic laser weapon to cut through a half-inch thick steel girder from 2/3 of a mile away.

But don’t try running away just yet: Dusseldorf-based Rheinmetall Group also reported that its new 50kW high-energy weapon technology can successfully detect and engage targets.

The company announced its 2012 year-end operational testing at the Ochsenboden Proving Groud (EZO) in Switzerland, where it successfully overcame tough environmental conditions including snow, ice, rain and blinding sunlight to neutralize targets.

Since 2011, the company has increased the power of its lasers five-fold, producing twice the laser output within the same volume. The weapon was run against five different scenarios including air defense; countering rockets, artillery, and mortar (abbreviated C-RAM or counter-RAM); and asymmetric warfare operations.

And Rheinmetall showed that laser weapons could be placed at different locations and work together to create one superbeam against a target, a technology it calls Beam Superimposing Technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: laser; technology; weapons
Coming soon! A Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 watt range!
1 posted on 01/14/2013 4:28:39 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

2015: Frans Killiwatt becomes self-aware...


2 posted on 01/14/2013 4:36:33 PM PST by freedumb2003 (MOLON LABE)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba; martin_fierro; Charles Henrickson

Ich bin ein Biglaser


3 posted on 01/14/2013 4:43:17 PM PST by mikrofon (Ich bin ein Tagliner)
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To: mikrofon
LOLOLOL!!!
4 posted on 01/14/2013 4:45:19 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Now if only they could make individual cheese wrappers that don’t break apart I’ll be happy.


5 posted on 01/14/2013 4:45:58 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Better safe than sorry.)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

A few years too late to keep the Red Army out of Berlin...


6 posted on 01/14/2013 4:48:01 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Goldfinger


7 posted on 01/14/2013 4:48:40 PM PST by plain talk
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Uber lazer!


8 posted on 01/14/2013 4:50:47 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

SHARKS!!! Need sharks!


9 posted on 01/14/2013 4:54:03 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: plain talk

Hey that’s right. Goldfinger had one and he used it to break into Fort Knox. That was way back in the 60s.

Isn’t that the same company who makes or maybe licenses the main gun on the Abrams tank.


10 posted on 01/14/2013 4:56:13 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Wundebar ! Ausgezeichnet !


11 posted on 01/14/2013 4:58:37 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Gesundheit.


12 posted on 01/14/2013 5:03:58 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: yarddog

I always had a hunch the Germans would be the ones to figure out the Laser Cannon and deploy it. The Germans are a very clever people—just hope they never point that thing at Americans.


13 posted on 01/14/2013 5:04:45 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Great, I’ll take two phased plasma “assault” rifles. These would be fully automatic, right? Much simpler aiming and one shot effectiveness. Cut right.


14 posted on 01/14/2013 5:05:12 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Eventually the Chinese will find a weapon like that to be VERY USEFUL against enemy armies.


15 posted on 01/14/2013 5:07:58 PM PST by BobL
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To: John S Mosby

I am sure I am not the only one who can’t believe what bad shots storm trooper are with their laser guns. Also how ineffective their armor is. I mean it does no good at all.


16 posted on 01/14/2013 5:11:29 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
Nice...

I wonder what it would take to develop a coating to bounce the beam.

17 posted on 01/14/2013 5:13:42 PM PST by eldoradude (Let's water the tree of liberty with THEIR blood...)
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To: yarddog
Now maybe they can contract to build a real one of these along with the 120mm tank guns on Abrams.


18 posted on 01/14/2013 5:14:47 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

I think the movie meant 40kw. These are already 30KW and multiple beams can be combined like on the Death Star.


19 posted on 01/14/2013 5:39:41 PM PST by omega4179 ( Huelo azufre)
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To: eldoradude
I wonder what it would take to develop a coating to bounce the beam.

It would take very little effort if you are talking about a missile. Aluminum is one of cheapest metals, and it provides high reflectivity through all the typical light frequencies, including IR.

If the missile is absorbing 10% of the incoming power and reflecting 90% away then the 50 kW becomes 5 kW. If you also spin the missile it spreads the spot over the missile's body (in a band.) Combine this with instability of the beam that in part instrument-dependent (accuracy of aiming) and in part environment-specific (air distorts light) and you end up with needing 10x more power to be effective. Do not forget about the range either; if there is a nuke coming, shooting its carrier missile in terminal phase and only a mile away is pointless.

But ultimately this is the solution, as lasers become bigger and badder. Laser guns can be already mounted in stationary installations or where there is enough power for them. They have infinite ammo, and their rate of fire is only limited by the power supplies and by cooling - which is a solvable technical problem. IR laser beams are also invisible to the naked eye, and goggles are just another thing that may fail (and will fail after seeing a small reflection of the beam.)

20 posted on 01/14/2013 5:49:05 PM PST by Greysard
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To: eldoradude
Nice...

I wonder what it would take to develop a coating to bounce the beam.

Vampires have a +10 against lasers!

21 posted on 01/14/2013 5:54:20 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Greysard

We will have to develop “hand held laser guns” to get around the upcoming gun bans...

We will use 3-D printers to “print” the casings/body of such weapons and use multiple refracted diode lasers along with lithium ion cell and heavy duty capacitors to get enough energy for short lethal bursts....

Feed a capacitor with lithium ion batteries and let it rip...

I think use either an infrared or ultraviolet laser wavelength....


22 posted on 01/14/2013 5:57:22 PM PST by GraceG
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

is it still considered futuristic if it’s been built and is mounted on a truck blowing things out of the sky?


23 posted on 01/14/2013 6:18:47 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
its new 50kW high-energy weapon

This is why we need lower wattage lightbulbs I guess.

24 posted on 01/14/2013 6:44:41 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Greysard
Here's a link to some footage from their testing:


25 posted on 01/14/2013 6:54:27 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: John S Mosby

40 Watt range?


26 posted on 01/14/2013 7:00:56 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Fair is a place you go to eat cotton candy and step in monkey poop)
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To: yarddog

Not only does it do no good (not even against Ewok arrows and stone spears), it actually hurts their peripheral vision and agility. They chase the rebels around the Death Star for a good half hour and never get close to nabbing them in that bulky armor.

I think that the armor design must be the result of Rebel sabotage in the Imperial military procurement apparatus.


27 posted on 01/14/2013 7:06:51 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Well, there it is. Now get our troops out of Germany. They can zap their enemies for themselves.


28 posted on 01/14/2013 7:42:13 PM PST by Chaguito
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To: GraceG
We will have to develop “hand held laser guns” to get around the upcoming gun bans...

There are very few examples in history where oppressed people successfully and legally "worked around" laws. The point of being the dictator is that you can change the law at any time, whenever you want. Those who worked around are now facing confiscations or arrests. Those who refuse are taken down with overwhelming force and painted in pocket MSM as terrorists.

In this aspect the first part of Deus Ex is a good illustration. If you are not familiar, here is how it goes. A young security agent joins a UN anti-terrorist coalition (UNATCO.) The country is suffering from an epidemic, and the only treatment - which must be taken weekly - is imported from Hong Kong in small quantities and distributed only to people in power. Peasants die by the million. His opponents are terrorists who steal shipments of drugs and indirectly threaten powerful families. Their MSM declares UNATCO the good guys, and the chief denounces any wrongdoing.

Later in the story the agent finds out that UNATCO is not the good guys, and the terrorists are not exactly terrorists. But this knowledge will be denied to people until the agent does what he has to do and enforces one way of life or another. The masses have no say in his choice and know nothing about the real lay of land; fortunately they are largely NPCs. I'm telling all this to point out that the dictator has everything that he needs to fully control the public opinion; a few "real terrorists," laying around in pools of blood after being taken down by the brave defenders of the faterhomeland will only enhance his message. The dictator will be believed because the lie can be crafted to be pleasant to the ear, but the truth is always what it is. People are more likely to believe what they want to believe, and sweet lies are the way to do it.

lithium ion cell and heavy duty capacitors to get enough energy for short lethal bursts

At this level of technology you would be better off with a Taser that is upgraded to deliver lethal current. Beam weapons are too inefficient. Short bursts are also a problem. The weapon needs to deliver energy, which is power over time. The shorter the burst is, the less energy you are delivering. But the duration of the pulse is restricted by the specs on those laser diodes; probably they are rated for a few watts over 100 µs or so. If you want to deliver some good joules to the target you need kilowatts in the pulse because any burst longer than a millisecond will probably be too long, cooling-wise. Also consider that even if you manage to get a laser to burn a 50 mil self-sealing hole in the opponent, the opponent will not be stopped or killed. There is no science on stopping effects of beam weapons yet, but from what we can read in books you have to go for wider beams to disable vital organs. This requires even more power. Human body is mostly water, and to burn a hole through that you need lots and lots of energy. Just look at your microwave oven, it's probably rated for 2 kW AC, and you need a couple minutes to boil a cup of cold water. [Specific heat of water is 4.187 kJ/kgK, so to raise the temperature of 0.2 kg of water by 80K you need (4.187 kJ * 0.2 kg * 80K) = 67 kJ. If your oven delivers 1 kW into the cup, the time is 67 kJ / 1 KW = 67 seconds. Add thermal losses, and you are at two minutes.]

In this aspect, a pair of well insulated gloves and a 1 kV, 1A power source (1 kW in pulse!) will do much better. If you need a ranged weapon ... consider a spear.

29 posted on 01/14/2013 8:26:10 PM PST by Greysard
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
Germans build, successfully test laser weapon

Needless to say, France has already surrendered

30 posted on 01/15/2013 8:01:51 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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