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Police Shoot, Kill Dog When Going To A Home By Mistake
CBS 4, Denver ^ | January 15, 2013 | CBS4, Denver

Posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:45 PM PST by CedarDave

ADAMS COUNTY, Colo. (CBS4) – An Adams County man is in shock after he says deputies shot and killed his dog.

Jeff Fisher said deputies went to his house by mistake. He said when they opened the door his dog Ziggy ran outside and officers shot and killed him.

Fisher said Ziggy was his best friend and can’t believe he’s gone.

(Excerpt) Read more at denver.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: colorado; doggieping; donutwatch; police; standingarmy

Shoot first, ask questions later. Too many of these recently:

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1 posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:55 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: Joe 6-pack

For your doggie ping list.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 8:34:58 PM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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To: CedarDave

That’s a vicious looking dog. He must have been guarding a pile of crack.


3 posted on 01/15/2013 8:36:43 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: CedarDave
I would sue them if it cost me everything I own on this planet.

Pretty soon some dog owner is going to get pissed off and return fire.

4 posted on 01/15/2013 8:39:05 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to god !)
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To: CedarDave

Cops don’t need high capacity magazines to shoot dogs.


5 posted on 01/15/2013 8:44:28 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: CedarDave

It’s them eyes!!!

Poor lil feller...

Great job officer...


6 posted on 01/15/2013 8:44:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: CedarDave

As this sort of shooting of animals is happening over, and over again in towns, and cities across this country there must be some sort of policy in some standard, universal LEO training manual that states this is what will be done to dogs encountered in the LEO line of duty.

It’s happening too much too often all across the country to be coincidental. It seems to be authorized behavior.


7 posted on 01/15/2013 8:45:47 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Newbomb Turk
"Pretty soon some dog owner is going to get pissed off and return fire. "

Already happened.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bethlehem/index.ssf/2012/05/george_hitchos_first_degree_mu.html

The story neglects to point out that the police chief arrived on the scene as backup and told the deputy to shoot the dogs. Then Hitcho fired.

8 posted on 01/15/2013 8:49:27 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: CedarDave

He is lucky they didn’t shoot him “by mistake”. Here’s a map of botched raids where some of the victims weren’t so lucky:

http://www.cato.org/raidmap


9 posted on 01/15/2013 8:49:52 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Jonty30

The dog looks like it has a beer bottle in its sights.


10 posted on 01/15/2013 8:51:17 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Newbomb Turk

I wonder how the cops would feel if someone shot their dog.


11 posted on 01/15/2013 8:51:28 PM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. hee hee)
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To: rockinqsranch

“It seems to be authorized behavior.”

Yes, it is definitely authorized behavior, or maybe more accurately, standard operating procedure. They have adopted the philosophy that it’s proper to shoot a citizen’s dog, whether it poses a real threat or not, just to preserve the theoretical safety of the officer.

I think the same type of idea is at play in a lot of the police abuses that are happening lately. For example, the excessive tasering of nonviolent suspects. This is not a random phenomenon, but the result of police officers being trained to preserve their own safety as the highest priority. So, they will naturally tend to escalate to a taser rather than try to physically restrain someone, and it seems increasingly, rather than just talking to someone.


12 posted on 01/15/2013 8:58:40 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Newbomb Turk

Not here in MN, but I understand some places you can shoot people to protect your property. If the cops had no warrant, were in fact at the wrong house, then they are no longer cops. They’re just a bunch of criminals. Blast away, I say.


13 posted on 01/15/2013 8:59:09 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Jonty30
Yeah, Ziggy was obviously a dangerous assault dog. Why, dogs like that have been known to lick you to death.
14 posted on 01/15/2013 9:01:16 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

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15 posted on 01/15/2013 9:01:22 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rockinqsranch

What this is doing is making people hate ALL cops. If there are any good ones left they’d better start condemning this crap.

This also shows when obama orders guns and ammo and clips confiscated the local cops will be the ones knocking on your door. Why? Because very few of them have any idea what’s in the constitution. They believe they have the right to do anything they please. And the courts have ruled in their favor. A cop asks for an I.D. and you refuse? You’re arrested. A cop comes to your door and says he has “reason to believe” a crime is going on in your home, he’ll shoot you and your dogs if you don’t let him in.

My advice is if you own a dog and the cops knock on your door, secure the dog before you open it.


17 posted on 01/15/2013 9:02:26 PM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. hee hee)
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To: Boogieman

We’ve gotta find DAs with enough sand to prosecute these tresspassing vandals. If you have a warrant and are at the correct place, you ought to also show cause for why you shot a dog or otherwise damaged property. And, no, your word is not good enough. As for showing up at the wrong house, they oughtta be subject to the exact same laws that’d land me in trouble for breaking and entering, vandalism, terroristic threats, assault with a deadly weapon, destruction of property, puppycide, etc.


18 posted on 01/15/2013 9:06:18 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Terry Mross

Once his excellency succeeds in getting all the firearms off the street, the public can clamor to reduce the size of the police forces citing we are now safe and don’t need you. They can also disband the many swat type units set up in just about every police department and get rid of their extensive firepower.

A few years ago when the G was handing out money and equipment to local agencies to help with terrorism, one department got some sophisticated night vision equipment which they quickly employed to find individuals at night who were violating the seat belt laws. Frankly, I feel pretty safe from terrorists but not from our over populated police forces. As the saying goes, when seconds count, the police are minutes away, probably running a radar trap or looking for seat belt violators.


19 posted on 01/15/2013 9:15:13 PM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: rockinqsranch
... across this country there must be some sort of policy in some standard, universal LEO training manual that states this is what will be done to dogs encountered in the LEO line of duty.

It should be found in the state code. Here is the provision in my state:

"(b) Notwithstanding §1732 of this title, no dog shall be considered dangerous or potentially dangerous if the dog was protecting or defending a person within the immediate vicinity of the dog from an attack or assault."

20 posted on 01/15/2013 9:17:09 PM PST by imardmd1 (Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what He has done for my soul. Ps 66:16)
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To: Boogieman
Police State is as Police State does.

You just wun yer war on drugs.

21 posted on 01/15/2013 9:20:32 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Mouton
>"when seconds count, the police are minutes away, probably running a radar trap or looking for seat belt violators."

Crime doesn't pay. Traffic violators do.

22 posted on 01/15/2013 9:24:02 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: CedarDave

this is why more and more people aren’t viewing police as being on their side anymore. they shouldn’t be surprised if the community more and more turns against them since they’ve adopted these non-thinking zero-tolerance “officer safety above everything else” policies.

they have no rights to do this kind of violent assault on people,especially when they make the mistake. they need to pay dearly for these lethal, non-fixable mistakes. how’d they like this to happen to them?


23 posted on 01/15/2013 9:31:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: rockinqsranch

it’s called “officer safety first above everything else, including your life, your rights, your pets’ life”. even when they screw up and you’re the wrong house. you’re just a frigging peon.


24 posted on 01/15/2013 9:33:20 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Terry Mross

It does not make me hate all cops. I am sure there are plenty of good ones.

BUT, if a cop comes in my yard and shoots my dog he better shoot me too.


25 posted on 01/15/2013 9:33:38 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: Paladin2

i would so hang that jury if i was on it.


26 posted on 01/15/2013 9:34:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: CedarDave

The police behave as if their minds are addled by illegal drugs. It is time we start drug testing the police.


27 posted on 01/15/2013 9:36:54 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Tublecane

most places don’t. the only way you can shoot someone in these places is if they are attempting to steal or harm the animal, and you try to stop them and they then become a threat to you. once that occurs you can defend yourself.

my uncle in law is a conservative attorney, was a city attorney for many years, he said if anyone ever went after his animals he’d shoot them.


28 posted on 01/15/2013 9:37:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: MtnClimber

Just like seriel killers, start with animals, then when the S.H.T.F., they can shoot other americans, law abiding americans w/o even thinking about it and not lose an ounce of sleep over it.


29 posted on 01/15/2013 9:41:56 PM PST by coincheck (Time is Short, Salvation is for Today)
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To: CedarDave

Sir, your house was not targeted “by mistake”.

Your house and your dog were targeted *deliberately*.

Do not make excuses for our government employees in blue that you would not make for the UPS man, the pizza delivery man, the repairman.....


30 posted on 01/15/2013 10:07:38 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: CedarDave
Shoot first, ask questions later. Too many of these recently.

You got that right.

31 posted on 01/15/2013 10:22:23 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: CedarDave

Only the police and military can be trusted with guns. All the better people know that.


32 posted on 01/15/2013 10:42:33 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: CedarDave

Absolutely terrible. Looks like Ziggy was a great dog. I recently got a call from the NYPD Fraternal Order of Police, wanting a donation for some police cause. Oh boy! They got an earful from me about their rude and disgusting officers who act more like jackbooted thugs than servants of the public. I also had in mind all the dogs killed by cretinous police officers all over the country, including NYC. I told them, in no uncertain terms, that they were not on my list of approved charities and never to call my number again.


33 posted on 01/15/2013 10:58:32 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

34 posted on 01/16/2013 12:25:25 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: CedarDave
police shoot dog
35 posted on 01/16/2013 1:32:25 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: EinNYC

“Your attitude is noted, citizen.”


36 posted on 01/16/2013 5:46:47 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Boogieman
police officers being trained to preserve their own safety as the highest priority.

If one is that frightened for one's safety, DON'T BE A COP, A**HOLE!

37 posted on 01/16/2013 8:38:14 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Newbomb Turk

Pretty soon some dog owner is going to get pissed off and return fire.

I, for one will! Anytime anyone comes to my home and starts shooting, that’s a real threat to more than just our dogs and will be answered by returning fire. REGARDLESS of the final outcome.


38 posted on 01/16/2013 8:42:05 AM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: CedarDave

Re my post at #7. Being concerned about the numerous shootings of dogs all across the country by LEO, and because of the appearance this is some universal policy to shoot, and kill dogs I sent an email to an old friend of mine (Army buddy from the mid sixties) who retired a number of years ago from a major city Police Department. We had both joined back then, but I chose to go a different career. Following my question to him is his response, which seems quite clear to me:

My Question to him: “Article after article from locations all across this Nation we read about LEO arriving on scene at someone’s home, and Zippy the dog runs out the door, and the LEO pulls his gun, and shoots the dog dead, or LEO enters a person’s backyard through a closed latched gate, and encounters a dog, shoots, and kills the dog. It’s happening all over the country in towns, and cities in every State of the Union as though it’s an authorized, sanctioned policy.

Is it that you know of?”

Retired Police Captain’s response: “Nothing I have ever heard of, and I rather doubt it’s a sanctioned policy, sounds like a whole bunch of cops with itchy trigger fingers. Trust me, that’s a full blown officer involved shooting, and you never want to go through one of those.”

So now I wonder if it’s chain reaction sort of copy-cat type of act. One guy did it, and now his actions are being copied by LEO’s that should not have passed the test, or perhaps an attitude has evolved that needs to be addressed.


39 posted on 01/16/2013 9:24:05 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Have your friend read several articles documenting the phenomenon. If these officers were *not* acting with the approval/condoning of their commanding officers, they would not repeatedly commit and get away with such actions. (As a rule, these cases are *cleared* by “internal investigation” around the country).

At best, he is ill informed.

At worst, he lied to you and told you what you wanted to hear.


40 posted on 01/17/2013 3:00:35 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

My friend is retired from a major city police department after working many years initially on the beat, then in bomb squad w/many awards for his work in that department, and then in homicide.

You saw my question as I wrote it to him. It was not loaded at all. I asked, and he gave me an honest response, nothing I wanted to hear. If I wanted to hear anything it would have been that there was some universal policy as I had speculated in my post, and my question to him, because I like being right, but he said there isn’t, and I believe him as I know he is an honest individual. We’ve been friends for over 45 years.

I think you have some problem with cops personally. I’m NOT pleased with the rash of dog shootings across the country anymore than yourself, but it appears by what my friend has stated that it’s most likely copycat shootings, and a problem locals around the country will have to address with their local LEA’s, as each agency seems to handle on duty shootings differently.


41 posted on 01/17/2013 7:28:33 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: CedarDave

The police are shooting dogs as training for shooting gun owners.


42 posted on 01/17/2013 7:37:33 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: aomagrat

Incidents such as this seem to be happening more frequently. Breaking into an innocent persons home (albeit a mistake), should be considered a crime against the homeowner and those present during the raid. All law enforcement involved should be charged, including those who planned, ordered, and implemented. The sanctioning municipality should also be sued and be required to pay all legal expenses on behalf of those the crime was perpetrated against.


43 posted on 01/17/2013 7:46:19 PM PST by evangmlw
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To: evangmlw

Sue the municipality and the taxpayers are the ones who pay.

Sue the individual officers.


44 posted on 01/17/2013 8:40:50 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: aomagrat

Indeed.

We are seeing open advocacy for gun control from the law enforcement field, an increased eagerness to enforce such laws.


45 posted on 01/17/2013 8:42:56 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: rockinqsranch

I think you fail to realize that a rash of *permitted crimes* (”copycat crimes”) speaks to even *worse* rampant corruption in the Law Enforcement community than was previously supposed.

I do not care to defend the corrupt nor excuse their behavior. I regret that your friend feels differently.


46 posted on 01/17/2013 8:45:32 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Newbomb Turk

If that were my dog a lawsuit would be the least of this cops problems.


47 posted on 01/17/2013 8:50:23 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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