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The Bill of Rights and "Muskets" - Vanity

Posted on 01/17/2013 4:28:09 PM PST by GraceG

One of the Idiot Liberal Talking points against the second amendment is this: "Back in the founders days they only had Muskets so it should only apply to muskets and flintlock type weapons."

I am going to destroy that argument right here, right now!

The 1st amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Conclusion: They didn't have the Internet, Telephones, Television back then so how could it possibly apply to that? They always scream like stuck pigs whenever their perceived freedom of speech or religion is assaulted on any of these mediums. The Liberal Argument was Debunked by many including Mark Levin.

The 3rd Amendment: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Conclusion: They didn't have Mobile Homes, Trailer Houses, and they don;t specifically say anything about Apartments or Condos..... So does this mean that that we can Quarter troops in any private residence if it is not a "House" proper?

The 4th Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Conclusion: They didn't have Listening devices back then so how could this possibly apply to wiretaps, or even the new back-scatter X-ray tech they want to roll out in mobile scanning vans? Not to mention any other means that can be used to "search" that doesn't involve an actual physical search, the founders didn't know abut all this technology so how can it possibly apply???

So we could go on and say they didn't know about this method or that technology because the framers were in their opinion such bunch of old white hicks were were too stupid to know that modern technology would exist.....

Or we could realize that "arms" equals "tools used by man to protected themselves" be that another private individual, a foreign invader or a tyrannical government, be that tool a arrow, a musket, a semi-automatic pistol/rifle, or sometime in the future perhaps a "raygun" of sorts...

But hey, maybe if I am living in a Mobile Home while watching tv and polishing my AR-15 it would be completely fine for someone in the military to on a whim use a back scatter to find out that I have an AR-15 then come in and confiscate it and decide to move in and kick me out of my mobile home because the founders didn't realize that I live like the founder's equivalent of the Jetsons and they couldn't have foreseen that.


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; billofrights; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/17/2013 4:28:18 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG
If you argue with idiots, people may not now the difference.

The correct response is "I won't comply. And since I'm armed, you can't make me. All you can do is kill me."

/johnny

2 posted on 01/17/2013 4:36:53 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GraceG

The Colonials had the same type of weapons that the British Army had at the time - or equal to - in order to step out (more or less) on the same playing field...at the moment and in the future - the same applies!

They can label weapons “assault” all the live long day - but it’s equal or close to the military version - so we all stay on the same playing field...

...the Founding Fathers had common sense - something that is missing in the liberal argument - something missing in most liberals!


3 posted on 01/17/2013 4:37:39 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: GraceG

I always just tell them that it is they who say that the Constitution is a “living and breathing” piece of paper that “evolves” over time. Therefore, if I want the lastest “living and breathing” firearm, I will have one.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 4:45:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: BCW

BCW ~:” The Colonials had the same type of weapons that the British Army had at the time - or equal to - in order to step out (more or less) on the same playing field...at the moment and in the future - the same applies!”

The Colonials had the same firearms as the military ; they had parity.
The term “assault “ weapon was constructed by the media .
The militia was designed to protect home and country.
The Constititution was designed to protect home and country from tyranny , foreign and domestic .
Anyone who abrogates their sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution is a traitor
Anyone who acts contrary to the Constitution is a tyrant
To restrict my “God Given “ rights to defend myself ,my family , and/ or my country will be met with my DEFENSIVE firearms .

PS : I have Claymore and RPG envy !


5 posted on 01/17/2013 4:48:34 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Pay attention - the inmates ARE running the asylum!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

PS : I have Claymore and RPG envy !

I do have a ‘potato gun’ ,.. but I think it my ethnicity speaking out loud !


6 posted on 01/17/2013 4:50:55 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Pay attention - the inmates ARE running the asylum!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

much agreed!


7 posted on 01/18/2013 3:21:32 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: JRandomFreeper
If you argue with idiots, people may not now the difference

Or to put it another way ... Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

8 posted on 01/18/2013 6:21:45 AM PST by MosesKnows
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