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Protecting Your Dog Do you include your dog in your home-defense plan?
Shooting Illustrated ^ | January 8, 2013 | Sheriff Jim Wilson

Posted on 01/17/2013 8:52:54 PM PST by Altariel

Protecting Your Dog Do you include your dog in your home-defense plan? by Sheriff Jim Wilson

January 08, 2013

From time to time we see reports of police shooting a dog in the course of responding to a call for assistance or while executing a warrant for search or arrest. Without a doubt, some of these incidents may be the result of poor training or the lack of proper planning on the part of law enforcement. However, that is of little comfort to the citizen when his family pet has been destroyed. With some thought, planning, and training, this kind of tragedy can often be avoided.

Having a family dog should be viewed as a commitment on the part of the dog owner. Besides proper feeding and regular vet care, the dog also needs basic obedience training. The animal should be taught to come on command, as well as to sit and to stay. Your dog should understand that “No” means that he is to stop what he is doing and pay attention to you. In short, you should be able to control your dog whether it is loose, or on a leash. This sort of training is surprisingly effective and inexpensive. The local pet store or your vet can direct you to trainers who can educate both you and your dog.

Allowing a dog to run loose in the neighborhood is not only a way to make enemies of all of your neighbors, it is also virtually a guarantee that the dog will come to the attention of the authorities. If the animal is not in a fenced enclosure, it should be on a leash and under your control. Training and controlling your pet will go a long way towards keeping it safe, not to mention how much your neighbors will appreciate you.

Sadly, the police can’t look at a dog and determine that it is harmless anymore than they can tell the good guys from the bad guys simply by looking at them. However, dealing with family pets ought to be part of every policeman’s training. And every tactical unit should develop plans for neutralizing a dog without harming it, if at all possible. Pet owners in a community might even consider opening a dialog with local law enforcement to address these issues and help develop this training.

We talk about the importance of having a plan for protecting your family. The family dog is a valuable part of most families and deserves protection as well. The solution is planning and training. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; doggieping; donutwatch; warondogs
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Sheriff Gives Puppycide Prevention Advice
1 posted on 01/17/2013 8:52:59 PM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

It doesn’t look like most of the commenters are buying his argument.


2 posted on 01/17/2013 8:55:18 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1340227174<

My new guard dog protects himself!


3 posted on 01/17/2013 8:56:51 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Joe 6-pack; Salamander

Doggie ping

(And I thought Odhinn could use a laugh. If he is not overdue for one of his “I told you to get more Freeper donors today” beatings. )


4 posted on 01/17/2013 8:56:59 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

5 posted on 01/17/2013 8:58:55 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Altariel

My dog is my home defense plan. Large, aggressive and very protective of his family. Gives me time to access my weapon of choice.


6 posted on 01/17/2013 9:00:06 PM PST by doc1019
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To: EdReform

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7 posted on 01/17/2013 9:03:35 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Altariel
You hear that dog owners? Be sure to include in your dogs training regimen how your dog is to behave when the police come to your door.
8 posted on 01/17/2013 9:03:49 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
"You hear that dog owners? Be sure to include in your dogs training regimen how your dog is to behave when the police come to your door."

Also, make sure your wives, daughters and girlfriends dress modestly. According to the Sheriff, they're just asking for it if they don't.

9 posted on 01/17/2013 9:05:40 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

10 posted on 01/17/2013 9:07:44 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

I like how the dogs have hung an air freshener off the rearview to keep the human smell to a minimum :-)


11 posted on 01/17/2013 9:10:15 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Altariel

I have two Great Pyrennes. They are very good judges of character and can take down all sorts of stuff.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 9:12:31 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Altariel; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Protecting Your Dog Do

Why should I protect my dog's do?

13 posted on 01/17/2013 9:15:12 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Altariel
I have included our dogs in our SHTF plan.

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14 posted on 01/17/2013 9:15:23 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: blam

They’re all smiling. Happy dogs.

Whatever you just did, they want you to do it again. Looks like a run in the woods. :)


15 posted on 01/17/2013 9:16:27 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: Altariel

Go to the link and read the after article comments. They are a good and informative read.


16 posted on 01/17/2013 9:18:58 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: atomic_dog

17 posted on 01/17/2013 9:19:54 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Altariel

Looks like most of the posters on this thread have the kinds of dogs who are perfect candidates for puppycide. Cops don’t generally shoot teacup poodles; they shoot the dogs they perceive as scary, like pits, GSDs, Belgians, and other dogs who are protecting their people.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 9:20:46 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: TheRhinelander

One of my ‘kids’ is a Pyrennes-Newfoundland mix with a dash of Lab. Talk about a protective, kid-friendly, water dog! When he was a pup with about 8 kids on a slip-n-slide, he would have a slide, then run around to the end of the line of kids and wait his turn, then go for another slide.

Now, he’s pushing 120 pounds of very protective, fur covered muscle. Woe unto the invaders...

Did I mention I love dogs?


19 posted on 01/17/2013 9:22:46 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: ottbmare
"Cops don’t generally shoot teacup poodles; they shoot the dogs they perceive as scary..."

Police justify shooting, killing 12-pound miniature dachshund in self-defense

Golden retriever shot and killed by police officer in Michigan

Cop Shoots Border Collie Mix He Mistook for Pitbull After Showing Up at Wrong Home

20 posted on 01/17/2013 9:27:07 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
You hear that dog owners? Be sure to include in your dogs training regimen how your dog is to behave when the police come to your door

Right. What do you have to do to get the police to come to your door over and over in order to train your dog properly?

21 posted on 01/17/2013 9:32:30 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: Revolting cat!

Lazy Freeper was lazy. ;)

Yeah, I should have put a colon between title and subtitle.

I didn’t.

Must be the influence of all the pro-kitteh Freepers you pinged. :-P


22 posted on 01/17/2013 9:34:54 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Joe 6-pack

Clearly they have their priorities in order. :)


23 posted on 01/17/2013 9:38:26 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: PistolPaknMama
What do you have to do to get the police to come to your door over and over in order to train your dog properly?

For me, it was renting a former crack house when I was single (I didn't know it was, until later).

All kinds of folks showed up. I was pure as the driven snow (that time, anyway), and looking for a large house with a large yard for cheap rent. That house was it.

Cops and I got along. The guys that banged on the door at 3am? Not so much.

/johnny

24 posted on 01/17/2013 9:42:15 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam

Fine looking friends you got there. Which one is the leader? I’m guessing it’s the yellow lab.


25 posted on 01/17/2013 9:44:46 PM PST by Ken H
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To: blam

That’s a cheerful looking group!!


26 posted on 01/17/2013 10:08:33 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Ken H
"Fine looking friends you got there. Which one is the leader? I’m guessing it’s the yellow lab."

Yup.

27 posted on 01/17/2013 10:09:45 PM PST by blam
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To: JimSEA
"That’s a cheerful looking group!!"

Thanks Jim.

Click on my name to see more of'em.

28 posted on 01/17/2013 10:10:47 PM PST by blam
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To: Altariel

I do not have a dog (not really a dog person, yet have had one for all of my life until six years ago when my dog died at 18 yrs)
If I were to get another, I would get a Rhodesian Ridgeback.
My youngest was home alone last week when a guy started pounding on the door, her RB went to her side and sat down looking at her. The guy at the door pounded harder and giggling the door handle.
She pointed to the door and just said “get’m.
The dog hit the door with such force she said it surprised her. The guy went around to the back and the dog hit the back door.
She said she picked her bat, looked the guy in the eye (through the window) and said a nano second you are gone or I release the dog.......
he fled.
Next day she bought a gun...with that dog she may not need it.
I mean really they kill lions! why not a guy?


29 posted on 01/17/2013 10:16:37 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: doc1019

I live in the hood and my five labs in the backyard are my defensive plan


30 posted on 01/17/2013 10:33:01 PM PST by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: svcw

I did not know that about RR’s. I will definitely have to check that out.


31 posted on 01/17/2013 10:39:40 PM PST by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: svcw

It’s a good thing she had the dog with her; clearly the Criminal meant to harm her (else he would not continue to attempt entry knowing she was at home and aware of his presence.)

Rhodesian Ridgebacks are an incredible breed.


32 posted on 01/17/2013 10:39:55 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: onona

RD were specifically breed to protect children from lions and pirates.
They are a southern African breed.
It amazing how they fight lions.
When the dog fights, they jump and hit the prey in the chest with their chest, knocking them to the ground and then rip the lions throats out.
The are not the most friendly dog to casual friends, like some dogs but protection....OMG
I have gone camping with my daughter and the kids and he sticks to them like glue.......if they separate he goes nuts running back and forth between them trying to herd them closer together.
RD are a fantastic bred.


33 posted on 01/17/2013 11:26:33 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Altariel

Yep, they are great.
I was helping my daughter move once and the movers nice guys.......said you have a dog and I answered he is in the bedroom.
Because the front door was open I did want to have to chase him if he got out.
Anyway, one of the kids let the dog out of the back room, he flew maybe ten feet in the air barking the whole way with his chest out to hit the guy. It happened so fast, I was shocked.
Fortunately the guy had enough sense to knee down in a crouching position or seriously I do not know what would have happened.
The dog started circling him and growling.
I put the dog back in the room.........
I was sooooo apologetic...the mover (nice young guy) looked at me and said, no problem I am going to get one of those dogs to protect my kids.
RD are fantastic dogs, they can get really big but as I said if they can kill lions well they are good protection.
(Psst really smart as well)


34 posted on 01/17/2013 11:34:18 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Altariel

absolutely.

Mess with my babies, game over...


35 posted on 01/18/2013 1:07:50 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Altariel

36 posted on 01/18/2013 1:16:30 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Altariel

Wow. Seems uncontroversial, but cops nationwide have burned so much credibility on this issue that the comments in the mag and here are uniformly skeptical.

This is a huge issue that some politician should hop aboard. I hope it’s a conservative.


37 posted on 01/18/2013 4:06:19 AM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Altariel

Well, this did make his lip curl ironically;

“With some thought, planning, and training, this kind of tragedy can often be avoided.”

What about the dogs who were on chains, porches and within closed fences, he asked me.

I had no answer.

We took the baby out to the pet stores yesterday so she could get a little fun and socialization in and the whole time we were driving around, I’m worrying about what would happen if a cop pulled us over for something.

[now we do ‘pre-flight’ checks on the tail lights and such, to avoid as much chance of ‘traffic stops’ as possible]

What a way to have to live.


38 posted on 01/18/2013 6:18:51 AM PST by Salamander (Put some workboots in the drier. Recite Dr Seuss. Now you're a rapper!)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

39 posted on 01/18/2013 6:25:29 AM PST by Salamander (Put some workboots in the drier. Recite Dr Seuss. Now you're a rapper!)
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To: ottbmare
"they shoot the dogs they perceive as scary being able to successfully thwart their unconstitutional/illegal assault on the owner"

Fixed that for ya.

40 posted on 01/18/2013 6:30:34 AM PST by Salamander (Put some workboots in the drier. Recite Dr Seuss. Now you're a rapper!)
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To: blam

Thats a “Bevy of Beauties”. I have what I call “Team Trouble” (they aren’t really) two German shepherds.


41 posted on 01/18/2013 7:19:35 AM PST by depenzz
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To: Salamander

Thanks. You’re right.


42 posted on 01/18/2013 7:21:40 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ottbmare

Someone should breed a strain of tiny yet very savage teacup poodles who attack en masse, thereby overwhelming their much larger victim....Velocipoodles.

;D


43 posted on 01/18/2013 7:33:02 AM PST by Salamander (Put some workboots in the drier. Recite Dr Seuss. Now you're a rapper!)
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To: Altariel

Teach your local cops how to obey a few commands like “stop” and “behave.” These young putz-heads who are being scooped up by our police forces lack life experience, manners, morals and respect for life and others. No amount of training dogs is going to keep today’s cops from shooting animals when they have the chance. It’s who they are.


44 posted on 01/18/2013 8:59:15 AM PST by pallis
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To: ottbmare
Cops don’t generally shoot teacup poodles;...

Teacup poodles they stomp.

45 posted on 01/18/2013 9:16:57 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

What kind of sub-human shoots a miniature dachshund? A pathetic person with no self-esteem. Well, he showed them who’s boss.


46 posted on 01/18/2013 10:19:44 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Revolting cat!

What would a rubber dog do do?


47 posted on 01/18/2013 3:15:57 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: svcw

Thanks,

I am so intrigued.

I will definitely check them out.

Brian


48 posted on 01/18/2013 6:12:31 PM PST by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: Altariel
My dog is well trained, obedient, knows not to leave his yard no matter what, and is generally speaking protective of several members of the family, mostly my youngest son who the dog claims as "his."

He is however, a Labradoodle. A black Labradoodle. If someone were to break in the house while none of us were home, I have zero doubt he'd show the burglars where all the good stuff is.

Generally speaking, a loveable dog. But sometimes, not too bright.

49 posted on 01/18/2013 6:17:39 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
I have zero doubt he'd show the burglars where all the good stuff is.

Understandable. But, what self respecting burgler wishes to know where the kibble is, and the cat's litter tray, and the bathroom trashcan?

50 posted on 01/18/2013 6:48:28 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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