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Richard Lugar Loses GOP Indiana Senate Primary by Landslide
Daily Beast ^ | May 8, 2012 10:52 PM EDT | Lloyd Grove

Posted on 01/18/2013 4:53:47 AM PST by RC one

The 36-year Senate veteran is trounced by Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock, whose business and Tea Party backers spent $2.7 million to defeat a once-powerful pol they portrayed as out of touch.

That cracking, thudding sound emanating from Indiana on primary night Tuesday was the crumbling of a Washington institution, punctuated by muffled shrieks of terror from incumbent office-holders everywhere.

Republican Sen. Richard Lugar—a towering figure in the national-security, arms-control, and foreign-policy realms who six years ago was so popular in his home state that local Democrats didn’t bother to field an opponent—lost his bid for a seventh term to a lesser-known, more modestly financed challenger who successfully portrayed the 80-year-old incumbent as out of touch and not conservative enough.

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Just a friendly reminder to any GOP members that think that voting for an assault weapon ban will help them get reelected in 2014 or 2016.
1 posted on 01/18/2013 4:53:50 AM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

Glad Lugar is out. Lots to be learned about GOP from that episode.


2 posted on 01/18/2013 5:01:52 AM PST by Pat4ever
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To: Pat4ever

Yeah, like, for instance, don’t replace someone who’s mostly conservative with someone who is stupid.


3 posted on 01/18/2013 5:13:19 AM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: RightFighter

For other examples, see Sharon Angle, Todd Akin, and Christine O’Donnell.


4 posted on 01/18/2013 5:15:00 AM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: RightFighter

“Yeah, like, for instance, don’t replace someone who’s mostly conservative with someone who is stupid.”

Lugar is a dangerous man.


5 posted on 01/18/2013 5:18:58 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: RightFighter

Yep. It’s like, “How To Lose An Election in Three Easy Steps”.


6 posted on 01/18/2013 5:19:52 AM PST by MDspinboyredux
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To: Pat4ever

From what I’m seeing, voting for Obama’s AWB is a career ender. Liberals are talking about this poll and that poll that shows this and that and playing their usual propaganda games. The only polls House republicans should be worrying about are the ones taken in their districts. They should also remember that it isn’t the moderates that determine their fate and that the people that do determine their fate are in no mood for reaching across the aisle.


7 posted on 01/18/2013 5:20:11 AM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RightFighter

“mostly conservative”

Did you bump your head before you wrote that?


8 posted on 01/18/2013 5:20:15 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (“The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.”)
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To: RightFighter

> For other examples, see Sharon Angle, Todd Akin, and
> Christine O’Donnell.

Yes of course, let’s continue to support RINOs like Lugar who will abandon us in the clutch, just as long as they go along to get along most of the time. = wink = wink =

Maybe if the hot water were made suddenly hotter, the frogs will notice in time.

Certainly better than letting the water warm up slowly with RINOs like Lugar.


9 posted on 01/18/2013 5:21:01 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: nuconvert

There are plenty of so called “conservative” FReepers who happily worked in concert with the media and RINOs to destroy anyone who stood in their way.

On the bright side, they were so busy with a few that many more tea partiers won.


10 posted on 01/18/2013 5:22:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RC one

Boy that was a good day!!


11 posted on 01/18/2013 5:25:16 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: RightFighter

I might have agreed with you a few months ago. Now? not so much. The only way to make some men hold the line is to put a machine gun behind them.


12 posted on 01/18/2013 5:25:32 AM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one
It's more than past time to shed these 80 year old dinosaurs who are comfortably entrenched and more than willing to compromise us into socialism. The party needs to be bitch slapped back to it's conservative roots. Pray be this the first bitch!!! Orin Hatch is probably not sleeping to good tonight!!!
13 posted on 01/18/2013 5:25:54 AM PST by ontap
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To: RightFighter
Some hits (Cruz, Flake, Fischer) but dreadful misses (Akin and Mourdock).

It ain't the conservative message that is the problem. It is the messenger. We have to find a better way to screen out the stupid.

14 posted on 01/18/2013 5:28:32 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Westbrook
Richard Lugar, lowest common denominator.

(2009) Chicago Climate Exchange Has Important Partner: Sen. Richard Lugar

A greenhouse gases trading system funded with the help of then-Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama would appear to have another prominent supporter, Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar, the ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who was also one of the system's earliest clients.

Three years ago, Lugar, who grows corn, soybeans and trees on his family's 604 acres of property in Marion County, Ind., became the first farmer in his state to sign up with the new commodity market called the Chicago Climate Exchange, which is likely to play a major role in President Obama's $650 billion cap-and-trade initiative. In the process, Lugar became what the exchange called an offset producer, entitling him to a financial reward in return for keeping his part of his property untouched.


Get your money for nothin and your RINO hacks for free.
15 posted on 01/18/2013 5:29:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RightFighter
For other examples, see Sharon Angle, Todd Akin, and Christine O’Donnell.

All three of these people were better than the people they defeated......and all three were back stabbed by the rhino party leaders!!!

16 posted on 01/18/2013 5:29:39 AM PST by ontap
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To: RightFighter

Wrong. Completely wrong. mourdock was elected statwide as treasurer and was a fine choice. He made a ridiculous mistake, and one that is inexplicable after the Akin comments in MO. Otherwise, he was fine.

You single out a few candidates in your comments, but leave out the slew of ‘RNC preferred’ candidates that fell on their face. You didn’t mention Tommy Thompson, Connie Mack, or George Allen who were all the ‘safe’ choice. All ran terrible, uninspiring, losing campaigns. You seem to cherry pick few upstart candidates among hundreds in the country.

You win some and you lose some, and your attacks afterwards are not helpful.


17 posted on 01/18/2013 5:30:06 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: RC one

We need intelligent, strong conservative candidates, not morons.


18 posted on 01/18/2013 5:33:12 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: RC one

I think John Bohner should be target #1 this election cycle

With TEA party marches on his office and GOP headquarters


19 posted on 01/18/2013 5:33:54 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: RC one

So you admire the Soviet model...


20 posted on 01/18/2013 5:37:18 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: RightFighter
your logic fails against the real problem which was that at his advanced age Lugar had become a drooler. his office and his votes were totally in the hands off his staffers ~ none of whom had been elected.

The real lesson is that what you need to do before you become too old is pass the torch before you get burned!

21 posted on 01/18/2013 5:38:04 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: kenmcg

We have learned that intelligent, strong conservative candidates do not prevail in the presidential election.

Charismatic seems to be a more important quality. To prevail, there must be some sizzle, something special, an air of leadership.


22 posted on 01/18/2013 5:39:35 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: RightFighter

If you’ve figured out how to replace a Democrat Senator in Delaware tell us your plan so we can have a really, really, really good laugh.


23 posted on 01/18/2013 5:39:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: RC one
The only polls House republicans should be worrying about are the ones taken in their districts.

Stupid Mario thinks it's going to propel him to the presidency. Little does he know that NY gun law he just signed is the beginning of the end of his political career. Besides, the guy can't string two sentences together.

24 posted on 01/18/2013 5:40:30 AM PST by jersey117
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To: RC one
The only polls House republicans should be worrying about are the ones taken in their districts.

Stupid Mario thinks it's going to propel him to the presidency. Little does he know that NY gun law he just signed is the beginning of the end of his political career. Besides, the guy can't string two sentences together.

25 posted on 01/18/2013 5:40:44 AM PST by jersey117
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To: RC one

We should have a bumper sticker that says.. “ Got re-elected? ask Lugar”


26 posted on 01/18/2013 5:40:49 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: T-Bird45

Soviet model!? Primary elections are American as apple pie. This is how representative democracy works. We elect representatives to...represent us. If they don’t represent us, we don’t elect them. How is this communist? seriously. explain that.


27 posted on 01/18/2013 5:42:19 AM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Actually, Lugar's ACA rating was right up there with Ryan ~ who was, until he revealed himself as pro-illegal alien, a TEAParty darling. Alas, the situation wasn't that Lugar was Conservative, or not Conservative ~ he was too old!

The Mormon who takes his place as most senior Republican in the Senate will be TOO OLD as well long before the Republicans again rule the Senate. They will discover their investment turned to dross ~

28 posted on 01/18/2013 5:43:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Servant of the Cross
It ain't the conservative message that is the problem. It is the messenger. We have to find a better way to screen out the stupid.

Absolutely. It would also help if the messenger's weren't so boring that they couldn't sell the truth even to people starving for it.

29 posted on 01/18/2013 5:46:00 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: RightFighter

Sharon Angle lost to the massive voter fraud in Las Vegas coordinated by
Pinky Reid !
The casinos were bussing it there employees and demanding they vote Reid !
The illegals were allowed to vote too.

Let’s talk about the losers like DC insiders who lost like Mack in FL ,
MT , ND , WI ,NV


30 posted on 01/18/2013 5:46:08 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: RC one

True, but we need to ensure those who replace them are viable candidates who don’t come down with Tourette’s on hot-button issues.


31 posted on 01/18/2013 5:47:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: ncalburt
Sharon Angle lost to the massive voter fraud in Las Vegas coordinated by Pinky Reid !

While there was very likely voter fraud, to believe it made tha 9% margin of victory for Reid is a stretch. Angle was a horrid candidate.

32 posted on 01/18/2013 5:49:34 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: ontap

A lot of it had to do with how much media attention they were given and that was very much a result of how nasty the RINOs were willing to be and how much support they could get among the low info republicans.

Here in Michigan, Kerry Bentivolio would have never won the McCotter seat if the RINO/DEM/Media coalition had gotten traction. When McCotter dropped out the GOP hand a hand picked establishment candidate all ready to go and wanted the rest of the “no chance” candidates gone but Bentivolio refused and won the primary by a wide margin.

Among the attacks Bentivolio faced was an estranged brother in law claiming that Bentivolio was going to be arrested on fraud charges any minute. On election day the media was happily reporting that charges against him would be announced in connection with the McCotter case and it didn’t happen. He was accused of abusing students when he was a high school teacher with a string of former students who tearfully claimed he yelled in class sometimes.

In the end, none of it got much attention outside the state and Kerry Bentivolio won the seat. However the senate is where the real firewall is.


33 posted on 01/18/2013 5:50:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Well stated, Mourdock was weak.


34 posted on 01/18/2013 5:51:45 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: ScottinVA
Almost without exception the leftwingtard radio personalities who decide it's their job to take out conservative (notice the small 'c') Republican candidate's with nongermane questions are, themselves, dopers of long standing. Why they never got prosecuted, or why they got prosecuted and turned loose is a good question ~ one that we ought to have some of our elected Republican prosecutors taking a good look at!

The best defense is to get there fustest wif' the mostest!

35 posted on 01/18/2013 5:51:51 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: RC one

“That cracking, thudding sound emanating from Indiana on primary night Tuesday was the crumbling of a Washington institution, punctuated by muffled shrieks of terror from incumbent office-holders everywhere.”

Excellent pros.


36 posted on 01/18/2013 5:53:30 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: ScottinVA

That’s fine, so long as they don’t support an AWB, a magazine capacity limit, an impingement of private firearms sales, or firearms registration in any form.


37 posted on 01/18/2013 5:53:51 AM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: muawiyah
"The real lesson is that what you need to do before you become too old is pass the torch before you get burned!"

Exactly right, but the love of the perks and the power plus thinking people respect them for "who" they are and not "what" they are always seems to make them think they're invincible just one more time...

38 posted on 01/18/2013 5:54:58 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: bert
We have learned that intelligent, strong conservative candidates do not prevail in the presidential election.

I hope you are not referring to Mitt Romney. Intelligent - yes, Strong conservative - Not by a long shot.

39 posted on 01/18/2013 5:55:14 AM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: ScottinVA

Not true
She whipped Reid in their debates
The DC gop insider heller lost to a
Another crook in 2012

The polls had angle ahead .
The casinos in Vegas and Reno hired busses and were shipping employees at work time
To the polls .
Then they were bussing in the illegals too .


40 posted on 01/18/2013 5:57:30 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: muawiyah
...his office and his votes were totally in the hands off his staffers

Like 90+% of all congressional offices. It's about time they all go. Maybe time to move the capitol to the Dakotas...

41 posted on 01/18/2013 5:57:49 AM PST by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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To: antidisestablishment
"Maybe time to move the capitol to the Dakotas..."

Perhaps it would be best if we just moved our own capital there...

42 posted on 01/18/2013 6:00:20 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

capitOl, need more coffee...


43 posted on 01/18/2013 6:01:13 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: RC one

Mourdock was a RINO too. He deliberately got a Dem elected. At the end of the day, Lugar and Mourdock got exactly what they wanted.


44 posted on 01/18/2013 6:07:07 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: All

Just something to combat the low-information voters or those who suck up the MSM/GOPe talking points.

Lugar: after his primary defeat, went into the background and trash-talked Mourdock at every opportunity with local Indiana GOP groups. If Indiana didn’t have “sore loser” law, that jerk would of run as a third candidate.

O’Donnell: According to party affiliation and exit polls, there was no way a Republican was gonna win Delaware 2010. Even Castle had no shot.

Angle: Harry Reid owns the state’s political machines, the funding and his seniority (or is it senility). GOP had no shot.

Akin: foot in mouth? yes....but you did know he was propped up by Mccaskill’s cronies in the primary by the tune of over one million dollars. Why? He was the weakest of the three GOP candidates.

Meanwhile, lets take a look at who lost and who won (Senate) in 2012.

ME: GOP in disarray and against a popular former governor.

MA: Brown flipped the bird to the TP, went all RINO and was up against a powerful candidate. Burned bridges. GOPe

VA: George Allen, three time loser, mr. “ma-ca-ca”, uninspired campaigner, slow, methodical, dull. GOPe.

FL: Connie Mack, three-time-loser, uninspired race. GOPe. “lost in space”

OH: Josh Mandel. Deer in the headlights against the hunter. In the big leagues Josh, they play for keeps NOT for Chuck-E-Cheese tokens. OUT OF HIS LEAGUE.

MT: Three way race and the Libertarian candidate spoils the show Tester 236,123-—Rehberg 218,051-—Cox 31,892.
DNC plowed a lot of money for their favorite goon Tester.

WI: Tommy Thomson. Uninspired campaign. Thought that by simply announcing he would win by default. Burned a lot of bridges in the primary. GOPe

NE Deb Fischer, CONSERVATIVE....Endorsed by Palin and a great ground game. Defeated the GOPe back candidate in the primary. WINNER

AZ Jeff Flake, CONSERVATIVE....Endorsed by Palin and a great ground game. Did not run away from conservatism. WINNER

TX Ted Cruz, CONSERVATIVE....Endorsed by Palin and a great ground game. Defeated the GOPe candidate in the primary. WINNER


45 posted on 01/18/2013 6:07:39 AM PST by Kolath
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To: Pat4ever

Stop and THINK!! This was no victory—this was a loss. We replaced a RINO with a RAT.


46 posted on 01/18/2013 6:11:01 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: nuconvert

You’d rather have Democrat Donnelly?


47 posted on 01/18/2013 6:14:22 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ilgipper
IMHO, it is a combination of the messenger and the message. I hesitate to agree Mourdock was a 'fine choice' if he could make such a 'ridiculous' mistake. It was so avoidable. Even AFTER Akin! It is ludicrous that a consultant at an annual retreat has to tell GOP elected officials not to say 'rape'. Duh. Don't fall into the traps that the State Run media will set for you.

Here are my nominations for bad messengers:

Angle, O'Donnell, Miller, Buck, McMahon, Akin, Mourdock(?)

And in keeping with your point, here were some bad (i.e. not bold conservative) messages:

Thompson, Mack, Allen, Bills, Wilson, Berg, Smith, Raese

We need to send our national candidates (House and Senate) to Newt Camp.

48 posted on 01/18/2013 6:14:56 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Rick Santorem, Bachman, Newt, Perry....

Cain had Charisma and was destroyed


49 posted on 01/18/2013 6:17:24 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Westbrook

Just be careful. We gain nothing if a RINO is replaced by someone who cannot win the general. We’ve had too many of these tough lessons.


50 posted on 01/18/2013 6:17:53 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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