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Australian Researchers Believe They Have Found Cure for AIDS
Medical Daily ^ | JAN 16, 2013 | MAKINI BRICE

Posted on 01/19/2013 1:03:37 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway
“individuals could maintain a healthy immune system”

People are susceptible to AIDS in the first place because they're immune compromised. Non HIV infected homosexuals get many diseases and have a high hospital admittance rate, so maintaining a healthy immune system is a relative term.

21 posted on 01/19/2013 6:34:17 AM PST by Varda
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To: Pontiac

The article is incomprehensible, but perhaps they are altering the virus via molecular engineering to render it non-pathogenic.

That’s one of two possible approaches. The second is somehow activating latent virus (all of it at the same time), coaxing it out of macrophages and T-cell precursors (somehow), and then killing it conventionally.

There has been some (very early) progress along path #2, I haven’t heard of any progress with #1. As I said, the article itself is meaningless and I have no idea what they are describing.


22 posted on 01/19/2013 6:40:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: dr_lew

There are some places in Africa where the infection rate is well over 90% of the adults.


23 posted on 01/19/2013 6:56:22 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: sunmars
Pharmaceutical companies will never ever find the cure for things, only the treatments, if they found cures, their whole profit margin goes down.

This is a common notion, and is often applied in other areas, as with the notion that the car companies conspired to cover up the 70 mpg carburetor.

The problem is that it shows a total lack of understanding of market economic incentives.

If a cure for cancer were discovered tomorrow, the market for all drugs treating cancer would plummet. But the company that came up with the "cure" would make immense sums of money.

The notion that this company would keep the cure quiet is therefore based on the idea that it would avoid making a lot of money for itself in order to protect other companies in the industry.

Does not compute.

Similarly, any car company that came up with a device that doubled mpg would make immense sums by putting it into its own cars and licensing it to other companies.

Their deep-sixing it is based on the peculiar notion that they'd pass up immense wealth for themselves in order to protect the profit margins of the oil industry as a whole.

Again, does not compute.

Adam Smith covered this in detail in Wealth of Nations. Industries have an incentive to conspire against the public good by price-fixing, but any single company that breaks the pact benefits itself. So the incentive is for them to cheat, which makes price-fixing much more difficult to enforce. In fact, absent government or other coercion, it is essentially impossible.

I believe this is also covered by Game Theory, where there is usually an inherent conflict between what is best for the group and what is best for an individual within that group.

24 posted on 01/19/2013 7:21:40 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: nickcarraway

If only I could have a dime every time it is in a news again (for 20+ years and counting).


25 posted on 01/19/2013 8:29:22 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
We've been fighting cancer for years with very little progress but be sure to continue to send money. It's the same for most other diseases.

I have MS. After many years, I'm slightly jaded when it comes to the pharmaceutical companies, and even medical research. Sometimes I wonder if they want to find a cure, which is sort of impossible till you find a cause, and that has never been determined.

There's so much money to be made on the treatments (which cost boatloads of $$$, have a general success rate of 33-50% in slowing down the number of exacerbations, but evidently not preventing diability, and have a myriad of side effects, some of them fatal.)

26 posted on 01/19/2013 11:47:38 AM PST by memyselfandi59
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To: Nik Naym
And it is for those people, and others who are true victims of this (people who got it from bad blood products, improper medical procedures, etc) that I hope this turns out to be what they are saying it is.

While I did not explicitly state that, my hope is the same as yours.

27 posted on 01/19/2013 3:15:33 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar

AIDS is not a disease as much as it is a civil rights status. If it had been treated as a disease from the get-go it never would have run as rampant as it did.


28 posted on 01/19/2013 3:18:20 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: nickcarraway
Animal trials of the protein are due to begin this year.

They're making a big claim for something that hasn't started animal trials yet. Good luck to them anyway.

29 posted on 01/19/2013 3:19:02 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: memyselfandi59

Yea, I’m very much into natural remedies myself. I love earthclinic.com


30 posted on 01/19/2013 6:00:24 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: naturalman1975

It sounds to me as if they will just be swapping one antiviral therapy for another. Please correct me if I’m wrong.


31 posted on 01/21/2013 5:20:56 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: naturalman1975

It sounds to me as if they will just be swapping one antiviral therapy for another. Please correct me if I’m wrong.


32 posted on 01/21/2013 5:21:25 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: TalBlack
While the virus would still exist in a person’s system, it would be unable to develop into AIDS and individuals could maintain a healthy immune system.

And HIV is only one of many diseases that sodomites are prone to. News is coming out recently of an incurable form of gonnorhea. .

33 posted on 01/21/2013 5:27:43 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: TalBlack
While the virus would still exist in a person’s system, it would be unable to develop into AIDS and individuals could maintain a healthy immune system.

And HIV is only one of many diseases that sodomites are prone to. News is coming out recently of an incurable form of gonnorhea. .

34 posted on 01/21/2013 5:27:43 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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While the virus would still exist in a person’s system, it would be unable to develop into AIDS and individuals could maintain a healthy immune system.

And HIV is only one of many diseases that sodomites are prone to. News is coming out recently of an incurable form of gonnorhea. .

35 posted on 01/21/2013 5:27:56 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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It sounds to me as if they will just be swapping one antiviral therapy for another. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

They would be swapping one anti-viral therapy that requires a person to take three different expensive drugs at fairly precise intervals every single day (and if you get it wrong, it reduces effectiveness of the treatment or can actually be dangerous), and which have side effects, for an anti-viral treatment that in the majority of cases would only need to be given once, and then the person is treated for life (or at least until an actual cure comes along that destroys the virus).

36 posted on 01/21/2013 2:33:42 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Taken only once? Where do you see that in the article?


37 posted on 01/21/2013 3:16:53 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
Taken only once? Where do you see that in the article?

It's not in the article - as I said in an earlier post, I went to a Q&A with one of the scientists involved in the research.

If this works, they will use gene therapy to alter a person's genes so that their own body produces the protein that prevents HIV developing into AIDS. That's a complicated treatment but it's a one off treatment. Similar treatments are already in use for a few other diseases, but they are complicated, which is one reason why there are still questions as to whether or not this will pan out as a successful treatment.

38 posted on 01/21/2013 3:22:52 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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