Skip to comments.Florida Deputy Threatens to Shoot Concealed Carry Permit Holder
Posted on 01/19/2013 5:19:18 PM PST by 45semi
Citrus County Florida Deputy Andy Cox threatens to shoot concealed carry licensee for lawfully carried handgun & then arrests him for accidental exposure.
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This is the reason I support open carry laws.
I have no desire to carry openly in public but also think a person who is carrying a concealed weapon should not have to worry about accidentally exposing his weapon.
Gee, I wonder why cops get such a bad wrap?
The threat is a reckless endangerment to the public, to himself, and his colleague.
Good thing the guy wasn’t walking his dog.
Everyone involved acted stupidly. The holder should have informed the cop he was carrying, and the cop should have not snapped like he did. Not sure when this happened, but I’m betting we will see more like this as lawful 2A supporters get painted as “dangerous”.
Good thing he wasn’t out walking his dog!
“The holder should have informed the cop he was carrying, and the cop should have not snapped like he did.”
Had the holder informed the cop he was carrying, the cop would’ve just snapped sooner along with his chest thumping.
What else is a Florida Deputy who is also an Obama voter to do in this case?
The Prosecutor in the end dropped all charges.
This is exactly what the 2nd Amendment is for, for protection against tyrannical a__holes enforcing absolute self perceived stupidity of laws.
One of just many reasons.
Sounded almost like "Roid Rage" from the LEO. And yes, it was almost all on video. The man was trying to comply with the officer's requests and his holster accidentally showed. The only debate should be required notification of carry, but the reaction was in excess. After having asked the man to place his hands on the van, no need existed for the comment about shooting the man in the back and the use of an expletive in the process -- very unprofessional.
Something else is attached to this story that we are not being told for the officer to act like that. Perhaps a personal conflict between the two men's families or something like that had been going on. The LEOs with whom I attend church would never have treated that man that way even when placing him under control.
Was this resolved in court and what was the outcome?
“Everyone involved acted stupidly.”
Na, just the cop was a jerk. Like all jerk/cops, they can’t
resist the chance to act like maniacal power freaks. The
jerk/cop got caught lying about why he pulled the guy over
and acted way out of line to teach the citizen a lesson.
You don’t prove a jerk/cop wrong without paying the price.
Do you have a link to that story?
Okay to open carry in Indiana. VERY rarely see anyone carrying openly. Probably have not seen anyone open carrying in the last year. So carry permit holders are not show-offs.
Before we can be secure in our freedom we have to take a careful look at the police. Seems like we sure have a rash of rogue cops.
Florida doesn't have perverted “shake down” laws, such as NYs “stop and frisk” crap.
I no longer automatically assume my local LEOs are good guys doing a hard job.
I fear them now.
And I do not speed, do drugs, thieve, or knowingly commit any crime.
And I really hate that our society has devolved and reached this point.
But it has. And people need to understand that, and pick a side.
You sure the cops name was Andy Cox and not Wally Cox/
I’m happy they dropped the charges.
Can you add a link here?
The culture has become overwhelmingly infantile and amoral. That is the pool from which LEOs and military are chosen.
Those who do the choosing are overwhelming university-educated, which adds anti-Americanism to the mix.
There’s no way LEOs and military can become a repository of virtue under those conditions.
>>Something else is attached to this story that we are not being told for the officer to act like that. Perhaps a personal conflict between the two men’s families or something like that had been going on. The LEOs with whom I attend church would never have treated that man that way even when placing him under control.
Are you being serious??? If a cop is having a “family feud” with another person, then its ok for they cop to use foul and threatening language? If this was a premeditated action on the part of the cop due a family feud, then that cop needs to spend a few years in prison for terrorizing this citizen.
But, in reality, there was no feud. This was just another out of control cop with a potentially deadly “Us vs Them” mentality and he has no business carrying a gun for the government.
The sheriff was an ass...he needs retraining on dealing with the public and carry conceal laws...
There is a new law for dealing with An accidental exposure...
In Florida you do not have to inform an officer if you are carrying....when pulled over....
Though I would hand him my carry permit with my license as a courtesy...
Totally. Was trying to avoid writing another essay as to why reacting due to personal conflict as an LEO would have been wrong, but determined that was probably understood. Just searching for a reason as to why the policeman went ballistic.
The holder should have informed the cop he was carrying,
Cite the law that says he was required to do so.
and the cop should have not snapped like he did.
Way to condemn abuse of a law abiding citizen! /s
Citrus County Florida Deputy Andy Cox = Major League Asshole. And he’s incompetent to boot.
>>Just searching for a reason as to why the policeman went ballistic.
Same as always: its the gang mentality that infects many cops. If you aren’t wearing the colors of a “brother cop”, then you are the enemy.
In GA if you have a CCL you can concealed carry or open carry.
I wonder how it would have gone if the perp had followed proper procedure and 1st informed the cop....”Officer...I have a CCL and I could have blown your fu@kin head off....What can I do for ya?”
Prolly would have still ate some asphalt....
IMHO..Civility should be a 2 way street..with more civility from those that swear to >> serve defend and protect...(this isn't against law enforcement but Ive seen too many cops that have that attitude)... as an aside...had an old lawyer tell me years ago....Cops should have their penises measured before being given a badge, gun and a little authority...it would cut down on the number of power hungry little pricks on the force../s
“I’m going to shoot you in the f**ing back” ????????
What the hell kind of talk is that? I hope there is a law suti and that trigger happy dumba$$ cop is FIRED from the force
Indiana calls it on the license, simply,
LICENSE TO CARRY HANDGUN
It is open or concealed. Our town marshall, when taking our applications said, "If you carry open, and an incident occurs where law-enforcement are about, just make sure they know whose side you are on."
Law-enforcement here is very supportive.
From the documentation at the link, it looks like the case was dropped, but the guy had to finally file a motion 5 months later to get his gun back??
(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection
(2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.
I am originally from Florida, and it’s now my 2nd home where my family lives. I live in a state to the north and have a CCW permit that is valid and recognized in Florida.
Once, when showing my brother a new pistol I brought with me, pulling it from the trunk of my car - he quickly shoved me to conceal the pistol or I could get arrested. My state is an open carry state. I was shocked. He explained that open display of a pistol in Florida is against the law.
The deputy should have asked the man to remain in his vehicle. He should have known right away the guy was carrying because he kept trying to adjust his shirt. He couldn't even give reasonable directions to the wife who was being completely compliant. Had this been a bad guy I don't think the deputy would come out on top. Instead all he has done is he has done is make two more enemies out of common citizens.
The first words out of the officers mouth should have been “Do you have a weapon?”. It all escalated from his not asking.
Step One if you get pulled over and have a firearm in the vehicle — Inform the officer, permit or not. In NC it is state law. Don’t know about other states, but it is polite nonetheless, and avoids any misunderstanding.
I don’t get pulled over often, but the last time I did, by a NC State Trooper, I put my hands out the window as he approached the vehicle and said, “Officer, I have a firearm in the vehicle.” It was being legally carried in plain sight on the passenger seat of the vehicle.
We spent the next 10 minutes talking about firearms, shooting the breeze. Nice guy. No ticket.
>> Gee, I wonder why cops get such a bad wrap?
There are two kinds of cop.
The guys lucky. If he’d been a dog the cop would have shot him.
. You can beat the rap but you can't beat the beatdown or the ride
cause of buttheads like this one and his breathren who go around killing innocent dogs
Oh yeah, and you can throw in the cops, “code of silence”, that says one does not speak badly of my fellow cops even if they are real bed.
Most cops are great public servants.
Then there are the ones that speed past you on their priveledged way to get the fresh donuts.
It does look like a classic “’Roid Rage” incident.
The ‘Rest of the story’ is the Prosecutor threw out all charges.
The cop did not have enough professionalism/control to be a cop. Threatening to shoot the guy in his “effin” back was the giveaway.
I occasionally see individuals carrying concealed (not very well concealed if I was able to see them) but I’ve never seen one openly carried.
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