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The Right Calls Obama a Dictator, but Sarah Palin Disarmed the Alaska Civil Militia
Politicususa ^ | Jan. 18th, 2013 | Sarah Jones

Posted on 01/19/2013 5:32:14 PM PST by Bratch

In 2008, the Anchorage Daily News ran this deck bellow the headline: “NO MORE GUNS: Alaska State Defense Force stripped of many powers.”

Irony knows no bounds when it comes to the Tea Party.

In 2008, Tea Party Queen and Shoot ‘Em Up and Hang ‘Em Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) disarmed brigade members of the Alaska State Defense Force (think volunteer militia) at the recommendation of the state military officials, based on a report by an investigator with the Washington National Guard.

(I)n a major decision proving unpopular with at least some of the force’s roughly 280 members, the state is taking away the brigade’s guns.

Yes, Sarah Palin, as executive of the state, took away their guns. And no, conservatives, you can’t have it both ways. Clearly they gave Sarah Palin the report and she took executive action on it (also known as “tyranny” when a Democrat does it).

“The report does not say Westall was a bad commander,” Campbell said. “The report says the state defense force, it’s a voluntary organization, it’s part time, it’s dedicated volunteers serving their state, but they don’t have the intensity of training, the skill sets the National Guard has.”

As a result, Campbell recommended to Gov. Sarah Palin that brigade members should no longer be armed.

The state also read a report on said militia, and yet the state was not accused of hating Republicans. Do not try this on a national level.

A report ordered by George W. Bush’s Department of Homeland Security warned of right wing domestic terrorism, writing that “the economic downturn and the election of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment.” This caused massive right wing hysteria by the usual suspects. Michelle Malkin quickly donned her Republican Poutrage, and the Drudge and Breitbart followed with their angry misunderstandings of reality.

The report was unveiled in April of 2009, during the beginning of the Obama administration, and so naturally Republicans screamed and hollered about how it hurt their feelings to have a federal agency report the facts until the agency decided not to distribute the report to law enforcement. (No such whining when the same agency released a report on left wing terrorism.) This was before the Obama administration figured out that catering to crazy only enables it.

Sarah Palin has a reputation as a great gun freedom fighter of the Right (in spite of her struggles with actually shooting a gun on her reality TV show). The fact that she directed her administration to disarm the militia in 2008 and yet we heard nothing of this during the 2008 election suggests that disarming the militia is equated with “liberty” and “loving the second amendment” when a Republican does it.

When a Republican is in charge, the cult salivates at the use of dictatorial power. It’s a form of security for them, resulting in what psychologists describe as an urge to be dominated and controlled, stemming from their deeply shameful suspicion that they can’t control themselves.1

We must remember Sarah Palin’s affectionate relationship with Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who is sending out his civilian armed posse to patrol for “illegal immigrants” and to “protect” the schools. It’s a wonder Palin didn’t explain to him that in her own state, they found that “administering a part-time civilian force brings a high liability risk to the state.” Yes, really.

Why is that? Because they are not trained as well as the professionals. Go figure. This conclusion comes dangerously close to suggesting that education matters, gravity exists, there is such a thing as expertise and that not everyone should be armed with a gun. But outside of their own actual records, Republican exceptionalism demands that we attribute equal weight to non-exerts and arm chair wannabes, lest we be called “elitists”.

All you need to do in order to represent second amendment “freedom” is pose with guns and put cross hairs on your opponents. You can disarm the militia in your state without DESTROYING THE CONSTITUTION so long as you have an “R” after your name. Also, posing while leaning on the flag in short shorts helps (warning: do not try this as a Democrat or you will be branded a hater of the troops and an enemy of freedom).

If you have a “D” after your name, don’t you dare even mention enforcing the existing gun safety laws, or else the Tea Party (read: Civil War Resentment Party) will denounce you as a “dictator” and threaten to throw you in jail for violating their imaginary Constitution. You know, the one they would have written if only they had won that awful war of “Northern Aggression”.

Remember patriots, image is everything. Substance zero.

Update: This is for the Palin fans. The question is, what would the right’s reaction have been if this same scenario had happened under President Obama. With a title reading “NO MORE GUNS” they would have gone insane. They’ve already jumped the “tyrant Hitler” shark over 23 executive actions that do little more than direct gun safety commissions and enforce existing laws. Only two address limiting the availability of a category of gun or a magazine capacity. If Obama ordered Arpaio’s posse to be disarmed because they were a “liability”, would the right be defending that as they are Palin’s actions?

1. Note: These are real psychological theories on authoritarianism that are worth a look if you want to understand the consistent hypocrisy of the right. The conservative base can be seen as suffering from a desire to submit to an authoritarian who represents “traditional values”. The underlying theory is that the authoritarian personality has a weak ego unable to manage their id impulses. Alfred Adler proposed an alternative theory that power-over seekers are compensating for a feeling of inferiority, which might explain why Republican leaders are able to manipulate their base by stoking resentment of “liberal elitists”. Professor Bob Altemeyer expands on this theory in his book “The Authoritarians”. John W. Dean’s book, “Conservatives Without a Conscience” discusses the psychology of obedience to authority. For more on how the Republican fear that they can’t control themselves causes them to seek policies that impose rigid moral control, read “Red State Blue State”.


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Lots of chatter on the left about Governor Palin lately.

I wonder what's up?

1 posted on 01/19/2013 5:32:24 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch
When a Republican is in charge, the cult salivates at the use of dictatorial power. It’s a form of security for them, resulting in what psychologists describe as an urge to be dominated and controlled, stemming from their deeply shameful suspicion that they can’t control themselves.

Since the Left does and feels the exact same things when they are in power, it is safe to assume that party politics is a form of bread and circuses to keep the stupid entertained - and critical observers had best ignore the performers and keep their eyes on what the ringmasters are doing.

2 posted on 01/19/2013 5:36:56 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Bratch; onyx

She’s the real (as opposed to msm) front-runner for the nomination in 2016. Of course they need to attack her and laud Chris Christie and Jeb Bush.


3 posted on 01/19/2013 5:37:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Bratch

They just don’t have anyone else to direct their
jabbering insanity at.


4 posted on 01/19/2013 5:38:07 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Bratch

They fear her and are tyong to get out in front of any candidacy since Prince Andrew Cuomo decided to end his presidential campaign last Tuesday


5 posted on 01/19/2013 5:39:39 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Spot on.


6 posted on 01/19/2013 5:41:57 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Bratch

A Republican removed STATE OWNED weapons from a minimally trained militia and the left has a coronary!?

Had one of these under-trained individuals caused a problem or get injured and the Dems would be screaming for everyone’s PRIVATE PROPERTY to be removed!

Eff ‘em!


7 posted on 01/19/2013 5:43:51 PM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Bratch

Anybody who can fact-check this?


8 posted on 01/19/2013 5:44:00 PM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: Bratch

Texas also broke up a state militia group during the mid 1980s, it was felt that they were suffering from self induced “mission creep” caused by an ex-Army Special Forces commander, who was concentrating on guns, camouflage and combat training, instead of state militia duties.


9 posted on 01/19/2013 5:44:59 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: Bratch

Without even looking, I can just about guarantee you that the STATE stopped arming these folks with STATE OWNED weapons.

They were perfectly free to buy firearms on their own.


10 posted on 01/19/2013 5:47:28 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bratch

The author trying to claim that not arming “state militia” members is the same as going house to house to disarm every private citizen. Apparently the author wants us to believe that these were privately owned weapons, but if they were privately owned weapons I don’t see how Palin could take them away privately owned weapons from people just because they belong to the state militia, without taking everyone’s privately owned weapons away- which of course she didn’t- so it sounds like the author is really stretching on this one. Perhaps these were state supplied arms?

I’m sure the libs have or would at other times use this same “state militia” to justify taking 2nd amendment rights away from everyone “because, after all,” the libs would say, “we have an official militia and so there’s no reason for just any private citizen to be armed.”


11 posted on 01/19/2013 5:49:36 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Bratch
I didn't read any where in that heaping pile that Palin advocated passing Federal laws to ban certain types of weapons.

These people are desperate/insane....as always.

12 posted on 01/19/2013 5:50:27 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did she take away individuals private guns? Or just state supplied guns? That would be a major difference. Of course, that difference would be lost on the left


13 posted on 01/19/2013 5:51:12 PM PST by D Rider
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To: Ouderkirk
They fear her

The DNC goes to sleep at night fantasizing about Palin being the nominee. They'd have a drunken-week long celebration party if she got the nomination.

14 posted on 01/19/2013 5:53:41 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have you seen any polls indicating she is the front runner? If yes, expect many more attacks on gov Palin.

My bet is on she will not run in 2016.


15 posted on 01/19/2013 5:54:18 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Ellendra

Don’t worry about “fact checking” - a logic checking will do just fine.

First, she did not do a single thing to remove private fire arms from private owners.

Second, the article attributes some of Obama’s justice Department language to Bush.

Third, the author, like all liberals, is obesessed with people, and not principles. If Palin had taken guns away from private owners, conservatives would have indeed criticized her. We wouldn’t have supported that simply because it was Palin doing it...

This is what liberals don’t understad, because they are so eaten up with cult of personality, and ideas just bounce off their tiny little heads.


16 posted on 01/19/2013 5:54:55 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Bratch

Plain didn’t take any one’s private weapons, she simply decided that her State Defense Forces would not bear arms while on State Active Duty. It might come as a surprise to the moron who wrote this bravo sierra, but the vast majority of members of the United States Armed Forces are not issued personal weapons. Until I read something different, written by someone with a clue, I’ll assume that Palin was acting properly to assure that her State Defence Forces were a valuable tool of her Adjutant General’s Department, and not just a bunch of lunk heads running around the woods in XXL ACUs.


17 posted on 01/19/2013 5:55:38 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: Bratch

Plain didn’t take any one’s private weapons, she simply decided that her State Defense Forces would not bear arms while on State Active Duty. It might come as a surprise to the moron who wrote this bravo sierra, but the vast majority of members of the United States Armed Forces are not issued personal weapons. Until I read something different, written by someone with a clue, I’ll assume that Palin was acting properly to assure that her State Defence Forces were a valuable tool of her Adjutant General’s Department, and not just a bunch of lunk heads running around the woods in XXL ACUs.


18 posted on 01/19/2013 5:55:38 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: Strategerist

They fantasized about Reagan getting the nomination also.


19 posted on 01/19/2013 5:55:57 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Ellendra

(Here is one of the original articles from 2008.)

Defense commander resigns after complaints
Published: October 28, 2008

http://www.adn.com/2008/10/28/570834/defense-commander-resigns-after.html


20 posted on 01/19/2013 5:55:57 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Strategerist

The reason they would celebrate is that the GOP hierachy would doing their fighting for them.


21 posted on 01/19/2013 5:56:10 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bratch

The left wants to dismantle the military, so what’s the problem here?

Palin technically disbanded a state-armed militia! Why aren’t the liberal nuts dancing in the aisles for her?


22 posted on 01/19/2013 5:56:32 PM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Bratch

I’m sorry did Palin say they could no longer own their own weapons in their own houses?


23 posted on 01/19/2013 5:57:29 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: entropy12

pres. Cruz will appoint her Sec’y of Energy and she will dissolve the dep’t


24 posted on 01/19/2013 5:59:06 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Bryan24; Bratch
Without even looking, I can just about guarantee you that the STATE stopped arming these folks with STATE OWNED weapons.

Good thing you said 'just about'.

"The loss of policing powers offends some brigade members, many former military who want to continue to serve. They are not paid for training or equipment, investments that can run to $4,000 a person, several members said. "

25 posted on 01/19/2013 5:59:50 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Bratch
They are not going to destroy Palin.

Palin is the heart of conservatism; a common sense thinker. She is the real deal.

The MSM are frightened we all will rally around her again!

They are in the early stages of picking who they want to run on the GOP ticket.

26 posted on 01/19/2013 6:02:19 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: onyx; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Funny, I don’t remember reading this before, say, in 2008. At that time the Partisan Media Shills branded Sarah a trigger-happy dunce who should be raped.

Thanks Bratch.


27 posted on 01/19/2013 6:02:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Strategerist

“The DNC goes to sleep at night fantasizing about Palin being the nominee. They’d have a drunken-week long celebration party if she got the nomination.”

Yeah, just like they celebrated when Ronald Reagan was nominated in 1980.

The fools.


28 posted on 01/19/2013 6:05:00 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: All

Hope this clears things up. Low-information voters (and posters) might get confused....

http://www.adn.com/2008/10/28/570834/defense-commander-resigns-after.html

The ASDF was a relic pre-statehood. Once Alaska became a state, the Alaska National Guard became the primary force; the ASDF was voluntary, ex-military — sort of like volunteer firefighters after a city has its own paid firefighters. The elderly commander was running the force as though it was his own enterprise: firing without cause, not enough training, no real organization. After a complaint was filed with the Governor’s office in 2007, an investigation was conducted by the state’s military and veterans affairs commissioner and concluded the ASDF had become a liability to the state especially if the state continued to issue weapons to this outfit. The commander resigned, and members bellyached.


29 posted on 01/19/2013 6:05:10 PM PST by Kolath
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To: Bratch

One thing I say for the left: they never let the facts get in the way of a pet narrative.....


30 posted on 01/19/2013 6:05:35 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Strategerist
Logically the right should have fantasized about Obama being the nominee and some of them did, thinking Hillary far more electable.

But then the cult of personality plus the new and different aspect of having a black guy run gave Obama the edge, but a narrow one thanks to the right picking McCain and Romney, two people the left also fantasized heavily about running against. The left fears Palin because they see the potential for a following based on personality not unlike Obama's.

31 posted on 01/19/2013 6:06:40 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: D Rider; 2ndDivisionVet
Did she take away individuals private guns? Or just state supplied guns?

She didn't take away any one's guns. These GUNS were privately owned, and they STILL HAVE THOSE GUNS. The Alaskan Government removed the groups POLICING powers because of the legal problems due to lack of training, and a commander whose acts were becoming questionable.

SOURCE: Defense commander resigns after complaints

32 posted on 01/19/2013 6:07:00 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

That says nothing about weapons.....


33 posted on 01/19/2013 6:08:30 PM PST by papertyger
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To: ExTxMarine
A Republican removed STATE OWNED weapons from a minimally trained militia and the left has a coronary!?

Now remember Obozo said he did not think that citizens should own weapons. And the weapons that citizens already own are "private property" that he would love to confiscate. More leftist crap, stuff does not really belong to citizens, only the government. FUBO!

34 posted on 01/19/2013 6:08:36 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Bratch

I’m still trying to figure out what the hell the author of this diatribe meant when he/she wrote : “Republican exceptionalism demands that we attribute equal weight to non-exerts.”
Are non-exerts really inerts?


35 posted on 01/19/2013 6:09:47 PM PST by Islander2
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To: dontreadthis

Cruz isn’t eligible to be President.


36 posted on 01/19/2013 6:09:58 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Strategerist

You do need to like her (obviously you don’t) for the DNC to fear her...but for some I odd reason they do. More than any other candidate qualified or not. Who else gets this treatment ? We haven’t seen or heard from her in months, yet here she is living “rent free” in their heads.


37 posted on 01/19/2013 6:10:21 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Ellendra
Anybody who can fact-check this?

Happy to oblige.

Actual article title: "Defense commander resigns after complaints" . . . The report . . . found that administering a part-time civilian force brings a high liability risk to the state, he said. . . . "The report says the state defense force, it's a voluntary organization, it's part time, it's dedicated volunteers serving their state, but they don't have the intensity of training, the skill sets the National Guard has." As a result, Campbell recommended to Gov. Sarah Palin that brigade members should no longer be armed.

In other words, Governor Sarah Palin made a financial decision that the litigation risk to the state did not justify the benefits of arming the militia. That is absolutely and completely unrelated to disarming civilians or in any way violating the Second Amendment. "Shall not be infringed" does not mean that the government is obligated to provide arms, just that it is forbidden to infringe on our right to keep and bear arms. The snark and vitriol are the typical Sarah bashing, with no substance behind it. This writer, like most liberals, is mistaking the individual freedoms in the Bill of Rights for a description of job responsibilities applicable to government employees.

38 posted on 01/19/2013 6:10:53 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: Bratch

Just a Palin hit-piece to cover for Barry’s attempted gun-grab.


39 posted on 01/19/2013 6:11:05 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Bratch

“.....Only two address limiting the availability of a category of gun or a magazine capacity.......”

Which two were these?

It was so mealymouthed and vague I couldn’t distinguish anything......


40 posted on 01/19/2013 6:11:45 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Bratch; All

C’mon Bratch, you could of read the header of the website and saw this...you put credence in this?????

POLITICUS USA
Real Liberal Politics...No Corporate Money...No Masters

(((Pictures of Obama and Senator Sanders)))

EPIC FAIL!!!!


41 posted on 01/19/2013 6:12:59 PM PST by Kolath
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To: D Rider

This is what Governor Palin said on August 1, 2009:

“And by the way… On health care issues going on in D.C. right now? Be wary when some kind of tie-in occurs; Because it will come up: A tie-in with guns in an attempt to take away our Second Amendment rights under the guise of some new health care plan – You know that this is coming – That the two issues will somehow crop up and they’ll be tied together. So we have to be very wary on this.” ~ Governor Sarah Palin, August 1, 2009 Anchorage, Alaska


42 posted on 01/19/2013 6:13:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Bratch

The moderator over there is a complete barking moonbat of an Obama whoreshipping leftist. Don’t expect any factual post to last long.


43 posted on 01/19/2013 6:16:53 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Bratch

This isn’t journalism. This is catty, juvenile, Libtard crap that wouldn’t be published in a high school paper. Some people never grow up.


44 posted on 01/19/2013 6:17:55 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: Bratch
I wonder what's up?

The Marxist shill MSM are terrified that Palin will run for President in 2016 and they need a full four years of degenerate lying and character assassination to get a traitor Rat to run against her.

If I see Sarah Jones walking the streets again, I'll mention to her that Palin did not take any privately owned firearms from anyone, contrary to the disingenuous manner her article is written.

That is only done by American Nazis, Communists and DemoRats.

45 posted on 01/19/2013 6:18:21 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Strategerist

So you lefties hate Palin, that is natural, since she is the most effective conservative in America, it would be pretty weird for you not to hate her.


46 posted on 01/19/2013 6:19:46 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: Kolath

First of all, I wanted to post this so Freepers could poke holes in it.

Also, as I mentioned in my comment, I’m intrigued by the amount of chatter about Governor Palin lately.


47 posted on 01/19/2013 6:19:59 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Texas Fossil

ASDF did supply their own weapons and ammo. Yes, they were also used to guard places from looters, etc. Now, they can’t carry while on ‘duty’. Logical?


48 posted on 01/19/2013 6:21:17 PM PST by Theoria
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She’s the real (as opposed to msm) front-runner for the nomination in 2016. Of course they need to attack her and laud Chris Christie and Jeb Bush.

You think she will run in 2016? I have my doubts. I believe her opportunity was 2012. She could have beaten Obama (Romney was a lousy candidate). Not sure she will be the strongest candidate in 2016, since we've got a deep bench of Conservative Governors ready to run (forget Bush and the Fat Man). I guess we'll see.

49 posted on 01/19/2013 6:21:51 PM PST by EagleInGA
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To: Domandred
I’m sorry did Palin say they could no longer own their own weapons in their own houses?

Why are we so quick to offer a justification for this decision by Palin? I like her as much as the next, but I disagree with this decision. I'm not afraid to state that.

50 posted on 01/19/2013 6:24:06 PM PST by RobertClark (It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we'r)
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