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1 posted on 01/21/2013 6:58:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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I’ve come to believe in the here after,many times I go into a room and ask muself what am I here after,


2 posted on 01/21/2013 7:11:36 AM PST by Vaduz
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Never read the book. However, if the good doctor isn’t following Christ, I’d beware of anything in the book - angles of light and all that stuff.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 7:13:14 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 16:31


4 posted on 01/21/2013 7:23:03 AM PST by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
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If there's nothing afterwards, I'll never know. If there is, I've got an excellent lawyer.

Seeing as how Satan, undoubtedly the greatest lawyer that ever existed, has lost his case, I wouldn't put too much hope in that.

5 posted on 01/21/2013 7:23:02 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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If there's nothing afterwards, I'll never know. If there is, I've got an excellent lawyer.

Seeing as how Satan, undoubtedly the greatest lawyer that ever existed, has lost his case, I wouldn't put too much hope in that.

7 posted on 01/21/2013 7:24:33 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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“Heaven is for Real” by Todd Burpo is the real deal. His little boy dies for few minutes,comes back, and over the course of a few years explains what happened to him. Nobody more honest than a 5 year old. The dad is a minister. Excellent read.


8 posted on 01/21/2013 7:31:48 AM PST by albie
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Satan appears as an angel of light. Trust only the Bible and the promises of Jesus.


9 posted on 01/21/2013 7:35:12 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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All the same, I found the book oddly believable. It’s not pious or treacly like so many books about faith experiences are. And even though the doc gets pretty new age and woo-woo by the time he’s finished, it wasn’t alienating if you kept an open mind.
Four-year-old Jeremy Werdt says he went to heaven during emergency spleen surgery, and his testimony of seeing Jesus and deceased relatives thrilled his Christian family and landed him a book contract....“To have Jeremy back and talking about this amazing experience of being with the Lord was the most wonderful day of our lives,” says his mother, Brenda. “He named all the relatives he’d seen and we just sat there crying. Then, after a while, we realized he hadn’t said anything about my mom, Grandma Spencer....”
....“Every time we asked he just shrugged his shoulders and said, ‘Nope. Not there,’” says Brenda. “We suggested maybe he didn’t recognize her because she looked younger in heaven. He smiled and said, ‘Mom, you recognize everyone in heaven. Grandma wasn’t around.’”
-- from the thread ‘Grandma not in heaven’ boy reports

10 posted on 01/21/2013 7:41:51 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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It would also be difficult to convince a fetus that ‘this’ world exists but then the water breaks and........SURPISE!


12 posted on 01/21/2013 7:48:50 AM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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As an Orthodox Christian, I naturally believe in the resurrection of the dead, the persistence of the soul after death, and the Church's understanding of the state of souls between death and the General Resurrection at Christ's Second and Glorious Advent -- they (we if we do not continue in this life until the Last Day) wait either in Hades or in Paradise (or a bit in each if we start in Hades, but the prayers of the Church move God in His mercy to send our guardian angel to lead us into Paradise). (I leave aside the details of the Orthodox understanding of the particular judgement, referring those interested to Fr. Seraphim Rose's generally excellent book on the subject, The Soul After Death.)

That said, what Dr. Alexander's experience proves is principally that the relationship between consciousness and large-scale, measurable brain function is not so simple as materialists would have us believe. As such it is both an important contribution to theistic apologetics in opposition to the chorus of "new atheists" and an interesting bit of data for the increasingly applied subject of philosophy of mind.

13 posted on 01/21/2013 8:00:29 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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Thanks SeekAndFind, I'll look for this book.... There was another book written 20 years ago by a doctor who was intrigued when a patient who told him of heaven after being revived during surgery. The doctor began to interview others with similar experiences. Those who had good ones remembered them right after recovery, but some would embellish them with later telling. Those who saw hell would tell of them at first then later block the whole memory. He said it was important to talk to them as soon as possible. ...Don't remember the title or author...
14 posted on 01/21/2013 8:26:35 AM PST by virgil283 ( *- Never give the devil a ride. He will always want to drive.-*)
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"Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

Perhaps a tantalizing glimpse, but we must take the reality of heaven on faith.

19 posted on 01/21/2013 10:15:43 AM PST by The Great RJ
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