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Flashback: Palin Predicts Obama Admin. Using Health Care to Curb Second Amendment Rights
Breitbart ^ | January 19, 2013 | Tony Lee

Posted on 01/21/2013 7:45:00 AM PST by yoe

On August 1, 2009--just seven months into President Barack Obama’s first term--former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin predicted Obama would attempt to leverage health care to "take away" the Second Amendment rights of Americans.

In a speech to National Rifle Association members in Anchorage, Alaska, Palin said Americans should be “wary” of this “tie-in” because Obama would attempt to “take away our rights under the guise of some new health care plan”:

And by the way, [with] health care being so big in D.C. right now, be wary when some kind of tie-in occurs. Because it will crop up: a tie-in with guns in an attempt to take away our rights under the guise of some new health care plan. You know that this is coming--that the two issues will somehow crop up and they'll be tied together. So we have to be very wary of that.

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Our public education system little more than an Indoctrination of Socialist beliefs....text-books have been re-written for over two decades not only for students but for their teachers. Palin was/is right.
1 posted on 01/21/2013 7:45:05 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

It appears that Sara Palin was not nearly as stupid as Charles Krauthammer and Bill Kristol said she was.


2 posted on 01/21/2013 7:49:35 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: yoe

Sarah Palin has more leadership and courage than Joan of Arc, Thatcher or the Elizabethan queen. But Sarah’s beauty is many times greater than of those women and her understanding of freedom and conservatism makes her far above these women of history


3 posted on 01/21/2013 7:51:31 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Democrat_media
She has one or two big tasks looming ahead.

Is she up to them?

4 posted on 01/21/2013 7:57:55 AM PST by eCSMaster (Palin was correct!)
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To: yoe

The GOP is scared to death of Sarah.

Any crooked politician fears an honest politician and will try to destroy them.


5 posted on 01/21/2013 7:58:37 AM PST by Venturer
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To: txrefugee

It appears that Sara Palin was not nearly as stupid as Charles Krauthammer and Bill Kristol said she was.

Bill Kristol is dumber than a bag of hammers or a box of Bill Kristols...


6 posted on 01/21/2013 8:01:12 AM PST by GraceG
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To: yoe

Palin had Obama’s number from the beginning. And because she was one of the only figures to be unapologetically vocal about it during those early days of Obama, she was made to endure a media hellstorm of intense demonization. All while her supposed GOP “allies” cowered about, continued to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, and told her “she should leave the room.”

A final kick-in-the-face? Not even allowed into the GOP convention.


7 posted on 01/21/2013 8:07:21 AM PST by greene66
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To: yoe

And Gov Palin is correct once again.


8 posted on 01/21/2013 8:07:52 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: GraceG

Hammers are useful, Kristol is not.


9 posted on 01/21/2013 8:09:08 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: eCSMaster

what tasks?


10 posted on 01/21/2013 8:11:14 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: GraceG

Box of Bill Kristols? I think I’ve used those to clean my downstairs toilet a time or two...


11 posted on 01/21/2013 8:14:12 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: greene66; yoe

A final kick-in-the-face? Not even allowed into the GOP convention.”

She has been treated so shabily by MSM and especially GOPe. Totally disgusting. Remember also she was not allowed to speak at the “I give up, Obama WON” in 2008, just McLaim. I again, will NEVER, ever forgive the GOP/McLaim for that low class action.


12 posted on 01/21/2013 8:17:21 AM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (This great nation has chosen socialism over freedom and our constitution. How sad.)
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To: svcw

Sarah has the Spirit of God within her. The others do not. She knows things all the others do not. Evil hates goodness.


13 posted on 01/21/2013 8:31:10 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: yoe

Reagan famously warned against what can be wrapped up inside of “healthcare”, when run by the state.

It was definitively called socialism.

When Hillary tried it, Reagan’s words rose again to haunted her efforts.

This conclusion against state mandated health care is no new revelation. Even Reagan had to lift the obvious from somewhere. He knew communism and its threat very well.

Communism has been fought in this country before, and also Hollywood.


14 posted on 01/21/2013 8:31:50 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: presently no screen name
I agree. When she was prayed for that morning, the man was prophetic about her role in this world.
There is a reason she is attacked viciously, even by so called conservative Christians.
15 posted on 01/21/2013 8:37:26 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: yoe
I believe Palin was right about lots of things all along. I always felt she knew tons more than she spoke about. A great lady and she is not done by far.
16 posted on 01/21/2013 8:38:35 AM PST by Logical me
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To: RitaOK

Oops, still on my cell keyboard here.

I meant to add that ALL constitutional rights & the Bill of Rights can safely be undone, under “Healthcare”. Just pull any issue of the day, say for example, religious freedom, and that also can be “managed”, under the auspice of “healthcare”.

It is a good thing for pundits and pols to clarify, and I am glad Sarah did.

Was it an entirely original thought? It shouldn’t be, given our historic understanding of healthcare and socialism.


17 posted on 01/21/2013 8:43:33 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: greene66
A final kick-in-the-face? Palin not even allowed into the GOP convention.

Proving that in spite of all they say the so called Dems and Repubs are cut from the same cloth and want the same thing...POWER over the people they are supposed to represent. They are ALL crooked traitors. It is the natural evolution of government from freedom to oppression.

18 posted on 01/21/2013 8:44:50 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: RitaOK
Reagan famously warned against what can be wrapped up inside of “healthcare”, when run by the state.

Google: "Liverpool Care controversy" to get an idea of how a national health care system works in UK.

Here's a good example

He is a lucky one ...as he was not put on the Liverpool Pathway (to death)

19 posted on 01/21/2013 8:52:51 AM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: RitaOK
I meant to add that ALL constitutional rights & the Bill of Rights can safely be undone, under “Healthcare”. Just pull any issue of the day, say for example, religious freedom, and that also can be “managed”, under the auspice of “healthcare”.

Absolutely. Just touch on some of the list:

Freedom of assembly - contagion and communicable disease issues.

Freedom of religion - contagion, communicable disease issues, and look for some "study" that shows "people in organized religions" likely to harbor mental disorders for their faith.

Freedom of speech/the press - "dangerous, thought-provoking speech" could lead to violent, unhealthy behavior.

Right to bear arms - we're seeing this in action today...danger and physical harm lurking everywhere with this.

Freedom from unlawful search and seizure - "comrades, your houses must be searched for unhealthy and unauthorized items, dangerous flooring which could cause accidents, unsafe breathing air, fattening and unhealthy sugary drinks...etc."

Freedom from incriminating one's self - unless the HHS starts issuing "directives" about how one must behave (in a manner that "promotes health"), and that doctors routinely collect and submit data about patients.

It only gets worse from there...

20 posted on 01/21/2013 9:01:38 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

She has also been attacked frequently by some on this site. Shame.


21 posted on 01/21/2013 9:07:20 AM PST by okkev68
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To: yoe

It’s fien for her to ‘think’ this- but what is she goign to ‘DO aBOut it?”- she’s a pwoerful person of means- where are the calls for impeachment? Where are the calls for lawsuits? The left threatened BOTH of those every other week when President Bush was in office, and screamed at the top of their lungs things liek ‘Bush lied, peopel died’, and hte left SUCCESFULLY got the publci behind htem with hteir aggressive thug tactics, but the rights ‘s idea of fighting the left is to write a column about the violations of the secodn ammendment?

Being ‘heard’ is no logner effective with hte left- The only thign that works witrh thugs is for the to FEEL the wrath of the right through non violent means of self protection such as lawsuits, threats of impeachment for deriliction of duty etc etc etc-

But alas,


22 posted on 01/21/2013 9:15:11 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: okkev68

I have not attacked Gov. Palin on this site (though I have questioned her family’s fondness for reality TV, which obviously can lead to only bad things).


23 posted on 01/21/2013 9:17:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: okkev68

Yes Sarah HAS been attacked by some Freepers. Shameful. She is one of our only bright spots right now. Frustrating.

As I listen to Obama give this disgusting inaugural speech, you just remember she is needed more than ever. Re-positioning this entire nation as he promised... transform this nation.

I again am sick to my stomach. argh. God Help Us all.


24 posted on 01/21/2013 9:17:35 AM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (This great nation has chosen socialism over freedom and our constitution. How sad.)
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To: presently no screen name

So, you think that is the Source of her abilities? I do too.


25 posted on 01/21/2013 9:19:17 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: yoe
Sarah Palin is the wonderful rare combination of being honest, brave, smart as a whip, and a Christian.

We should all pray she is willing to return to the public life, of government. Government has many corrupt politicians which have none of these characteristics.

Many of the medias are owned and controlled by foreign investors wanting to see the demise of America. The people currently behind the scenes and the people in Washington have in mind one world government/OWG. Where we will lose all of our sovereignty and be controlled by the UNITED NATIONS ... which wants all our resources and wealth for their pockets and nations.

James 5:16 " ... The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much". Let us pray in faith today and everyday. The future of America is in our hands. Will we pray to save America in Jesus name? ... amen.

Heavenly Father, full of tender mercies, loving kindness, and goodness, we come asking for the blocking, binding and removing of evil from the leaders of America. Touch them that they turn to Thee in faith and have a changed life for good and not evil, we thank thee for the multitude of blessing showering upon the people, we ask forgiveness of our sins, and we ask ... let us not be deceived.

All praise, honor, worship, and adoration are for the LORD! Thank Thee LORD, in Jesus name, amen.

26 posted on 01/21/2013 9:22:37 AM PST by geologist (" If you love me, keep my commandments" John 14:15)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
(though I have questioned her family’s fondness for reality TV, which obviously can lead to only bad things).

My observation differs. I think those TV appearances have not hurt her or her family. My opinion is that these things are all working together for her good -- and hopefully, for our nation's good.
27 posted on 01/21/2013 9:24:32 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: CottShop

In a sense, why should she DO anything? Last time she led the charge, what did she get? Her church was torched, operatives were succeeding in bankrupting her family, her young kids were dragged through the tabloid mud and made subjects of ‘rape’ jokes by comedians, the newsmedia outlandishly laid the blame of a mass-murder right on her doorstep, ludicrous books of lies came out trashing her family and accusing her of basically being an adulterous crack-whore, her own e-mails were forced to be released by media jackals, and millions were spent on a Hollywood propaganda film to portray her as a mentally-unbalanced nutcase...

And adding to all that, she got no support from her own Party, many of whom happily joined in with the smearing. Not even welcome at the GOP convention!

Judging from this experience of the past four years, why would she actually DO anything? Look at the ‘thanks’ she got for all her efforts. But, she probably will be stepping up to the plate, once again. She’s a better person than I, in that regard. I’d undoubtedly be telling both the GOP and the whole country to just go burn in hell.


28 posted on 01/21/2013 10:48:50 AM PST by greene66
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To: RitaOK
Reagan famously warned against what can be wrapped up inside of “healthcare”, when run by the state. It was definitively called socialism.

Yet millions of God-fearing, anti-socialist, anti-Obama Americans were manipulated by FEAR into voting for the first American governor to successfully implent state-mandated health care. Millions of anti-Obama Americans fell for the illusion of voting "against Obama," when such an option was purely imaginary. The good news is that there were more Americans who saw through that illusion.

I will say again: it is a good sign for America that Romney lost. Obama didn't "win," he was rejected overall, only pushed over the line by fraudulent and manipulated votes. Romney LOST because he was a statist/socialist and enough Americans who abhor socialism possessed the courage to conquer the fear tactics of GOPe.

America is in better shape than we think. It isn't rosy, there are a lot of problems, a horribly misguided and morally confused youth among the most prominent -- but they're YOUNG and have huge potential for seeing the light, and to have the instinct to REBEL against the government that would repress them. The liberal education establishment has brainwashed them in one way; reality and patient, loving fellow Americans can educate them in another. We still have a chance, because Americans are on balance good, moral, productive people, of reclaiming our individual rights and vanquishing oppressive government.

The malaise that cripples morality in today's youth springs from the absence of God. The bible states crystal clear: God is love. If there's an absence of God, there's an absense of love -- and indeed, the liberal "appeal" is based on envy, covetousness, sloth, appeal to the lust for vengeance, promiscuity, and more things that are at the other end of the spectrum from love.

Those of us who seek to bring God back into American culture as a way to regain and preserve American liberty, must regard love as a required tool for doing so. We will succeed if we remember that love MUST be the foundation of our approach.

Bottom line: We MUST RESIST THE TEMPTATION to hold our fellow Americans in contempt. That path leads to defeat. Love for and faith in our fellow Americans is the path to victory.

29 posted on 01/21/2013 11:19:44 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: geologist
Amen. I know many -- I am one -- who pray along the same lines regularly.
30 posted on 01/21/2013 11:25:56 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: svcw; Resettozero

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph 6:12

We know the spirit that is within those that speak against her. No matter what they say their reason is - we know it is evilness within speaking.

I didn’t know about any man speaking about her prophetically. But true Christians know their own and can see the hand of God on some and, sometimes, even for what purpose.

Any who says the media damaged her are from the pit themselves and they have no discernment and no spiritual eyes. And I have seen many comments like that here from conservatives - spiritually, they are just as rank as liberals. Now think of republicans and conservatives who shunned and/or used others to speak against her - they expose themselves more than they know. I laugh when I read how self righteous and/or ‘teaparty’ they try to appear.

She is the only politician who is beholden to NO ONE because she knows and she lives for the only ONE she is beholden to.

Through her I see how truly evil people are (gov’t/media) and in 4 years it has gotten worse because people/voters believe/watch them. Conservatives should know better but with some of them, their own evil within makes them believe and say (even in jest) what they want them to think/say - because their spirit is in agreement with them/gov’t/media even though their views may not be.

That tells me the ‘rest of the story’ for America. Stay close to God and take in HIS WORD more than you take in what ‘evil’ says. The less evil - news - the better off we will be for, then, we can continue to see clearly - spiritually.

And I thank JR because he is truly ‘one of us’ and his site has helped in more ways than 1000 media outlets. It reminds me of when so many were coming against him to get their own way. Them getting their own way did nothing for America - but it did show me how many are spiritually blind, as are many talking heads.


31 posted on 01/21/2013 1:52:50 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor
I listen to Obama give this disgusting inaugural speech

How could you sit and deliberately listen to a liar,a fraud? And why would you?

32 posted on 01/21/2013 2:07:01 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

“How could you sit and deliberately listen to a liar,a fraud? And why would you?”

Of COURSE he’s a liar and a fraud. I’ve known THAT since he gave the speech at the 04 convention, since he cheated to BE Senator from Illinois, since I figure he wasn’t born in Hawaii, since his records are all sealed, since his SS number is wrong (oh which one??), since he opened his mouth and moves his lips.

Because I’m politically informed, I wanted to hear what lies he told today, so when I comment to others, I know what I’m talking about first hand. That’s why I like FR and that’s why I listened. And oh yes..... it WAS sickening. Know Thy Enemy! And oh yes, I DID vote. I would love to know if others that rip Paul Ryan did vote for him or sat on his hands like in 08 and let this wretch become prez. George Soros is laughing now for another 4 years and longer. argh.

Nuff said.


33 posted on 01/21/2013 2:40:02 PM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (This great nation has chosen socialism over freedom and our constitution. How sad.)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor
I wanted to hear what lies he told today, so when I comment to others, I know what I’m talking about first hand.

And somehow you think that will make a difference after they voted for him TWICE!! And somehow you think what you know/think/comment on trumps voter fraud and the GOP will somehow become patriotic when all they want to do is 'get along' and not obey their oaths. Knock yourself out.

34 posted on 01/21/2013 3:35:19 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Finny
We still have a chance, because Americans are on balance good, moral, productive people, of reclaiming our individual rights and vanquishing oppressive government.

You really think that? You can't reclaim what you didn't get from the gov't/man/evil to begin with. Politicians through voters gave 'our rights' away with a need to show 'love' to get along with evil. Then they turned to PC, and, again, to get along, basically, for their own careers and the media and talking heads thought of their purse before America. EVIL confiscated what is 'god-given' through politicians/judges/media's lust for power and money. Adam/Eve gave up what was god-given through manipulative means, also. There is no going back - and it didn't happen over night either. A chipping away as lust for power and money grew and that ended Patriotism. Our military would have best served WeThePeople with helping us with the enemies within.

Bottom line: We MUST RESIST THE TEMPTATION to hold our fellow Americans in contempt. That path leads to defeat. Love for and faith in our fellow Americans is the path to victory.

I disagree. I detest evil and will speak out against it. I have faith in God alone and not my fellow American. You sound more like McCain with 'my fellow American'. The fact we have a president like obama - tells me all I need to know about my fellow American and that goes for Roberts right down through all the courts, all the politicians, right down to voters who CAN BE deceived and all the talking heads.

The church forfeited their power they had and got comfortable w/what America afforded her. They lost their chance, also. As did Americans, in general, refused to keep evil at it's door but invited it with votes for liars from the top on down. No one wants your love, just what you can do for them.

The malaise that cripples morality in today's youth springs from the absence of God

YOUTH? You could have sang that tune in the '50' or 60's but not any longer. How old are those who sit on the supreme court and in the gov't as a whole for the past 30 or so years? Who allowed the debt to pile up for today's youth? The youth is just the result of a long standing problem - not the cause. Reminder: God/prayer was taken out of gov't schools in '62 and those who wanted it out, fought for it - and those who allowed it to happen must be around 90 years old now. Don't blame the youth of today.

I will say again: it is a good sign for America that Romney lost

Really? Just Wow! So far we aren't agreeing on anything - so I'll leave that be.

35 posted on 01/21/2013 3:57:44 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: yoe

BTTT

Dear Lord, strengthen and guide us in Your will.
Tatt


36 posted on 01/22/2013 6:10:19 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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