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Rand Paul: House leaders ‘retreated’ on debt ceiling
Politico ^ | ALEXANDER BURNS

Posted on 01/22/2013 6:46:23 AM PST by JohnPDuncan

Sen. Rand Paul accused House Republican leaders of having “retreated” in the face of a confrontation with President Barack Obama, criticizing their decision to vote on raising the U.S. debt ceiling this week during a speech in South Carolina Monday night.

In remarks to the Charleston Meeting, a gathering of conservative leaders in the first-in-the-South presidential primary state, Paul rebuked the House for its plans to delay the debt limit fight by a few months. Republicans intend to vote this week on raising the country’s statutory debt limit to delay a spending standoff with the White House by about three months.

“I saw the speaker on TV handing the newly sworn-in president a flag. I am afraid it was the white flag of surrender,” the Kentucky Republican said, according to a GOP source present at the meeting.

Alluding to the House GOP’s gathering last week in Williamsburg, Va., Paul jabbed: “They came out of their retreat and retreated.”

Paul’s Inauguration Day remarks are the latest indication that he’s staking out an unrelenting, small-government position in the Republican Party as he weighs a national campaign in 2016. The Kentuckian voted against a fiscal cliff deal earlier this month that a huge majority of Senate Republicans supported.

In South Carolina Monday, he spoke at length about the need to home in on spending and debt as the country’s chief challenges. His remarks on the debt ceiling put him squarely on the conservative, confrontational side of the GOP’s internal debate over how aggressively to use the borrowing limit as leverage against the White House. Obama has said he will not negotiate over the debt ceiling and Democrats have derided Republicans as “hostage-takers” for threatening to trigger a national default.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: gop; kentucky; randpaul

1 posted on 01/22/2013 6:46:37 AM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan
We can no longer trust our elected representatives. Sad really.

The American citizens are attempting to do the right things by voting, calling, writing their reps...to no avail.

We slowly move toward an all encompassing federal behemoth.

What to do? What to do?

2 posted on 01/22/2013 6:50:33 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: JohnPDuncan
That's no white flag! That's Boehner's crying towel...


3 posted on 01/22/2013 6:50:33 AM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Bonehead’s Republican Machine of Progress has one forward gear and 10 reverse gears.

He is slime.

He is mush.

He is an idiot.

He is stupid.

He has no b*lls.

He has no morals.

He has nothing, save a legacy of shame and surrender.

Boehner, get into your car...while it’s in a garage.

And start it, you complete piece of Obamstuff.


4 posted on 01/22/2013 6:53:36 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: JohnPDuncan
In an article in Slavic Review in 1973, Richard Pipes wrote that when the Soviets probed their enemies, they would continue pushing if they struck butter but would stop when they struck iron. In his inaugural address yesterday, Obama seemed to show that he thinks he has struck butter.
5 posted on 01/22/2013 6:54:33 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Fiji Hill

“In an article in Slavic Review in 1973, Richard Pipes wrote that when the Soviets probed their enemies, they would continue pushing if they struck butter but would stop when they struck iron. In his inaugural address yesterday, Obama seemed to show that he thinks he has struck butter.”

If that’s the case, Obama is correct. The current crop of Republicans are politicians of the worst sort. They seek only one thing, to keep their cushy jobs. The Republicans want to feed from the public trough as long as possible.

It’s a self defeating plan for the Republicans. The mere existence of Republicans disgusts the left, and particularly disgusts the media. The Republicans will be Alinsky’ed. In a few years, to be a Republican will be as well received as being a KKK member. And Republicans will be gerrymandered out of existence.

But Boehner, Cantor, and Ryan will all retire with generous pensions, and fat bank accounts. Tough luck for the rest of us.


6 posted on 01/22/2013 7:01:14 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: JohnPDuncan
Why doesn't Rand Paul tell the American people what really happened with the Speaker of the House vote? Why doesn't he start spilling Washington's secrets? If he were to do that, he'd certainly charge up the conservative base and probably convert the fence sitters.
7 posted on 01/22/2013 7:04:30 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: massmike

LOL! He is pathetic!


8 posted on 01/22/2013 7:07:41 AM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan

Rand Paul for President!


9 posted on 01/22/2013 7:08:05 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: JohnPDuncan; IMissPresidentReagan; CourtneyLeigh; Just Kimberly; Knuckrider; MBohman; ...
thanks, for the post.
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D

of some interest:
If only ALL Senators Spoke Like this Senator! MUST WATCH!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980556/posts


10 posted on 01/22/2013 7:12:17 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: JohnPDuncan; IMissPresidentReagan; CourtneyLeigh; Just Kimberly; Knuckrider; MBohman; ...
thanks, for the post.
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D

of some interest:
If only ALL Senators Spoke Like this Senator! MUST WATCH!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980556/posts


11 posted on 01/22/2013 7:13:10 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Recon by Fire; Dscott_FR; Hawk_n_Ky; MrCraig; stoneface; hihozo; KJCarlock; freedombrigade; ...
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D

of some interest:
If only ALL Senators Spoke Like this Senator! MUST WATCH!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980556/posts


12 posted on 01/22/2013 7:14:59 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: kentuckycatholiceye; KentuckyGOP; kimmie7; kiss_of_angel_20; kupolitiki; KY Dittohead; ...
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D

of some interest:
If only ALL Senators Spoke Like this Senator! MUST WATCH!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980556/posts


13 posted on 01/22/2013 7:16:49 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: JohnPDuncan

14 posted on 01/22/2013 7:18:05 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: liberalh8ter
Why doesn't Rand Paul tell the American people what really happened with the Speaker of the House vote?

Which is???

15 posted on 01/22/2013 7:27:08 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Paul is definitely staking out the conservative side of the argument from the GOP’s perspective. Meannwhile, Bonehead is waiving the surrender flag. We need this guy as speaker of the house as much as a moose needs a hat rack. I was made more certain about that when Rove yesterday advised Bonehead is doing a smart thing by allowing a debt limit to be increased.


16 posted on 01/22/2013 7:28:29 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: liberalh8ter

Would I be crass to point out Rand Paul is a Senator? What would he know about the machinations leading up to the vote in the House?


17 posted on 01/22/2013 7:37:52 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

There were statements made that Boehner threatened people. Name names.


18 posted on 01/22/2013 7:40:28 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Cyber Liberty

You think Senators don’t have the dirt on what goes on in the House? Did you skip High school?


19 posted on 01/22/2013 7:42:14 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: JohnPDuncan

I’ll pay more attention to Rand Paul when and if he finds the courage to deny unanimous consent, which would do a lot to flummox Harry Reid.
Words are cheap.


20 posted on 01/22/2013 7:46:31 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: brownsfan
The mere existence of Republicans disgusts the left, and particularly disgusts the media. The Republicans will be Alinsky’ed.

They're already being Alinsky'ed. I just heard on the news that golfer Phil Mickelson apologized for saying he might leave California because of high taxes, saying, “I apologize to those I have upset or insulted and assure you I intend to not let it happen again.” Apparently opposition to excessive taxation is now considered offensive by those on the left.

21 posted on 01/22/2013 8:00:39 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: mrsmith

He picks his battles carefully.

Most senators trade their consent with Reid to allow them to offer amendments to bills that can get a vote since he controls the whole process.

Rand has been able to get votes on his amendments, sometimes very obscure amendments where he knows he only has 10 votes like for cutting foreign aid but it puts the senators on record.


22 posted on 01/22/2013 8:02:23 AM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: liberalh8ter
Did you skip High school?

You're quite an A-hole when you get caught being an idiot, aren't you?

23 posted on 01/22/2013 8:02:23 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: sickoflibs

RP is defining his borders...


24 posted on 01/22/2013 8:09:37 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: liberalh8ter

Maybe he doesn’t know, after all he is a Senator.


25 posted on 01/22/2013 8:18:18 AM PST by anoldafvet (One million people attended Obama's inauguration, at least 14 of them missed work)
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To: JohnPDuncan

It takes courage and a willingness to pay a price,
but isn’t that just what he’s saying others should be willing to do?

I hope for more of that from all of them... and expect to be disappointed LOL!


26 posted on 01/22/2013 8:20:31 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: liberalh8ter
There were statements made that Boehner threatened people. Name names.

WHAT?? Threats and coercion in the HOUSE??

Why... I'm SHOCKED!!! :-O

Now... where are my chips?

27 posted on 01/22/2013 8:23:39 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Gilbo_3
RE :”RP is defining his borders...”

Then Rand should do his job and keep those bills from making out of the Senate, if Reid cant get the extension passed out of Senate then Romney is off the hook.
Voting ‘no’ on stuff that passes is a pretty safe personal play for him.

Personally I think playing up the debt limit getting O to focus all his fire on it and then (Rs) moving to a play on the CR would be a smart move if that's what they are up to. (Big ‘if’) It makes the CR shutdown look much less scary to the average voter, plus now Dems have gone on record saying that Rs should cut spending over it.

The debt limit play is a loser. O has little incentive to give in on that. Close to zero chance that it would accomplish anything.

28 posted on 01/22/2013 8:29:19 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Wow......I don't know how you took what I said as being a 'A-hole but let me be more clear.....in High School, there are no secrets. Now, as for calling me an idiot.....who's the 'A-hole'?

Are you not aware that DC is a small town and when you're discussing the political class, it gets even smaller?

Overall, I've found FreeRepublic the be probably the best place on the web for respectful discussion; I see I've found the exception.

29 posted on 01/22/2013 8:31:25 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: mrsmith

He has used the filibuster with regards to the 4th amendment and I think on foreign aid in order to force votes, google ‘rand paul filibuster’


30 posted on 01/22/2013 8:49:14 AM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan
“They came out of their retreat and retreated.”

Quote of the year so far - even if the GOP is just doing what their bankster masters are telling them. :)

31 posted on 01/22/2013 8:52:46 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Arlis
Rand Paul for President!

Isn't it obvious he just threw his hat into the ring?


32 posted on 01/22/2013 9:01:08 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I hope so.


33 posted on 01/22/2013 9:34:56 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Gilbo_3

Back in late 2008 and early 2009 I remember watching a clip and reading Ron Paul’s anti-TARP floor speech and it was one of the most inspiring ones I heard from anyone.

So I watched Ron for a while but I eventually came to the conclusion that with all his ‘stands’ that he never accomplished anything.

He always stood for what he considered the ‘perfect’ but he that I know of never got any bills passed into law.

And that takes me back to my theme.


34 posted on 01/22/2013 1:26:19 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Either Scott Walker or Rand Paul would get my vote if they were to run for White House Fumigator in 2016. The rest of the GOP can KMA.


35 posted on 01/22/2013 1:32:27 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

I think Rand Paul/Walker would be a good ticket.


36 posted on 01/22/2013 2:26:08 PM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan

Boner’s white flag must be getting kind of tattered by now; it’s been in his hand for two solid years.
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37 posted on 01/22/2013 2:31:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Sirius Lee; JohnPDuncan

Unlike his father, Ron, who often found himself lost in a sea of symbolism, Rand has shown himself to be a man of substance.
.


38 posted on 01/22/2013 2:35:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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