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Bali drugs: Death sentence for Briton Lindsay Sandiford
BBC ^ | BBC

Posted on 01/22/2013 8:54:52 AM PST by JohnPDuncan

A 56-year-old British grandmother has been sentenced to death by firing squad in Indonesia for drug trafficking.

Lindsay Sandiford was arrested at Bali's airport in May last year after 4.8kg (10.6lb) of cocaine was found in the lining of her suitcase during a routine customs check.

Sandiford, whose last UK address was in Gloucestershire, said she was coerced into bringing the drugs to the island.

Foreign Office minister Hugo Swire has condemned the sentence.

He told MPs the government strongly objected to the death penalty imposed.

Her lawyers have said they were "surprised" at the verdict and would appeal. Prosecutors had recommended a 15-year sentence of imprisonment.

There was an audible gasp of surprise in the courtroom when the verdict was delivered.

Although the maximum penalty for drug trafficking in Indonesia is death, the prosecution had recommended a 15 year sentence, saying Sandiford's age should be taken into consideration and the fact that she has no prior convictions.

But delivering their verdict the judges said there were no mitigating reasons that convinced them they should reduce their sentence.

They added that Mrs Sandiford did not appear to care about the consequences of her actions.

Walking out of the court room the 56-year-old from Gloucestershire appeared shocked, covering her head with a brown sarong, hiding her face from the glare of the cameras.

Her lawyer has said they will definitely appeal. He added it was very rare that judges delivered a sentence that was so much harsher than the prosecution had recommended.

But the judges said there were no mitigating circumstances and the defendant did not appear to care about the consequences of her actions.

They said Sandiford had damaged the image of Bali as a tourism destination and weakened the government's anti-drugs programme.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: bali; britain; cocaine; death; drugs; drugtrafficking; drugwar; indonesia; uk; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd

1 posted on 01/22/2013 8:54:59 AM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan
I'm sure she's a really wonderful grandmother, too.

Sitting by the fire, knitting sweaters, baking apple pie, giving her grandchildren catechism lessons and singing lullabies to them.

2 posted on 01/22/2013 8:59:02 AM PST by wideawake
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To: JohnPDuncan

that’s harsh. Especially when prosecutors only asked for 15 years which is all but a life sentence for her. It’s not the difference between the recommended 15 years and, say, 20 or 25 years. Stupid woman but don’t know that the death penalty fits.


3 posted on 01/22/2013 9:00:34 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: wideawake
Sitting by the fire, knitting sweaters, baking apple pie, giving her grandchildren catechism lessons and singing lullabies to them.

With 5 kilos of blow she probably does all that stuff at the same time!

4 posted on 01/22/2013 9:02:59 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: JohnPDuncan
Cocaine? Go ahead and hang Granny. They have my blessing.
5 posted on 01/22/2013 9:03:18 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: wideawake

She better hurry up that knitting.


6 posted on 01/22/2013 9:03:38 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Better safe than sorry.)
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To: JohnPDuncan
They said Sandiford had damaged the image of Bali as a tourism destination and weakened the government's anti-drugs programme.

but nothing says vacation getaway like a firing squad. The Indonesians should worry more about muslim suicide bombers if they really care about Bali's tourist image.

This is another great example of "Oops, I'm not in (fill in the home country) anymore." People leave places where they have certain expectations of justice and the court system and become surprised when they find out not all countries are the same.

7 posted on 01/22/2013 9:04:19 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: JohnPDuncan

You break their law, you suffer their consequences.


8 posted on 01/22/2013 9:04:56 AM PST by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: JohnPDuncan

In the U.S. a 56 year old person given a death sentence has absolutely no chance of being executed, with at least twenty years of appeals. In Bali, not so much. She’ll either have her sentence commuted or be dead by March.


9 posted on 01/22/2013 9:06:24 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: JohnPDuncan
"APAIC reviewed drug use in Indonesia and found the following; between 2006 and 2010 the use of meth, barbiturates, heroin, and cannabis resin increased, while the use of ecstasy and cocaine remained about the same. APAIC also found that domestic production of meth and ecstasy is on the rise. Evidently the death penalty and decades long prison sentences are not deterring drug users or drug dealers." - http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/30/you-can-sometimes-reduce-drug-use-if-you
10 posted on 01/22/2013 9:06:24 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: USNBandit

Hum, any chance we can get His Excellency to go back to his homeland with some bags I can pack for him???


11 posted on 01/22/2013 9:07:58 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: JohnPDuncan
Sung to the tune of Grandma Got Ran Over By a Reindeer

Grandma got busted with some Cocaine.
At an Indonesian airport back in May.
Judge says she's going to meet her maker.
Will they even send her corpse back?
Who's to say?

12 posted on 01/22/2013 9:09:42 AM PST by apillar
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To: JohnPDuncan
The Ports of Entry of all of the countries in the region have big signs saying “Drug Smugglers will be Executed” most westerners think the sign doesn't mean them but they are wrong it means especially them..
13 posted on 01/22/2013 9:10:51 AM PST by montanajoe
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To: wideawake

Always keep a close eye on your luggage, when traveling abroad. I would probably go use the washroom, to check on the luggage at the last minute, to be sure that nobody has tampered with it.


14 posted on 01/22/2013 9:12:43 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Well, if she’s a grandma then let her go! /sarc


15 posted on 01/22/2013 9:16:08 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: JohnPDuncan

She should have just wore a burqa and blown up a niteclub....she would have been home by now

Drugs are bad....but Islam is much worse. People need to stop the political correctness about Islam.....and realize it is an evil cult that proselytizes a Pedophile Prophet. Do not vacation in Islamic countries...especially if you are carrying drugs or are a Christian. Islam is Evil


16 posted on 01/22/2013 9:16:47 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (The only automatic weapon is the one Obama uses to take your paycheck)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
In the U.S. a 56 year old person given a death sentence has absolutely no chance of being executed, with at least twenty years of appeals.
Texas is executing a woman one week from today - the lib media hasn't got wind of it yet, apparently.
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/death_row/dr_info/mccarthykimberly.html
That was supposed to be a hotlink, not sure what happened.
17 posted on 01/22/2013 9:19:35 AM PST by dainbramaged (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: Jonty30

This is 11 pounds of the stuff, not exactly the 100 grams somebody might slip in without you noticing.

But you obviously give excellent advice.


18 posted on 01/22/2013 9:23:35 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Jonty30
Yup. On a flight from Lisbon to Sao Tome, I had some joker try to load his bags onto my luggage cart as I stepped up to check in. He was trying to get his stuff to Sao Tome on my ticket, and he wasn’t even going on the flight. A major difference of opinion and shouting match ensued in two languages, ending with a 40 lb. bag being shoved into the guy’s face. Forcefully.
19 posted on 01/22/2013 9:25:39 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Jonty30
That's good advice.

The drug smuggler in this case, however, is not arguing that someone switched her luggage. I believe her argument is that she acted as a courier only because thugs were threatening to murder members of her family that were employees of the drugdealers.

20 posted on 01/22/2013 9:26:53 AM PST by wideawake
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To: JohnPDuncan

Hate to sound cold, but she broke their laws and she will have to suffer their consequence.

While death seems harsh to westerners, this is Bali’s law. People who go to other countries and break their laws often think they will be treated as they would be in their home country. Unfortunately for them, it just doesn’t work that way.


21 posted on 01/22/2013 9:40:02 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: wideawake

It would have been smarter for the entire family to move across the country.

If a family member came to me, saying I need to smuggle drugs to save his life, I’d probably shoot him myself.


22 posted on 01/22/2013 9:41:33 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Grandma says, “Ya pays yer money and ya takes your chance.”


23 posted on 01/22/2013 9:44:07 AM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: dainbramaged
tdcj.state.tx.us
24 posted on 01/22/2013 9:45:09 AM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Never confuse logic and liberals.)
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To: dainbramaged

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/death_row/dr_info/mccarthykimberly.html

You’re just tryin’ to cheer me up ;)

She was 36 at the time of her offense. If all goes well, she won’t see her 53rd birthday. I still believe the chances of a 56 year-old offender getting the hot shot in the good ol’ U.S.A. is effectively zero, even if they beg for it.


25 posted on 01/22/2013 9:46:33 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: JohnPDuncan; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
Lindsay Sandiford was arrested at Bali's airport in May last year after 4.8kg (10.6lb) of cocaine was found in the lining of her suitcase during a routine customs check.

NEWSFLASH *** MUSICIAN WILLIE NELSON HAS ABRUPTLY CANCELED ALL TRAVEL PLANS TO MALI ***

26 posted on 01/22/2013 9:53:09 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: JohnPDuncan
Jethrow, you think we can get Granny to bring us back some blow?

Why heck yeah! She won't mind!


27 posted on 01/22/2013 10:01:44 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Evidently the death penalty and decades long prison sentences are not deterring drug users or drug dealers.

Well, I bet the folks being executed don't deal or abuse drugs anymore. Don't get me wrong, I'm libertarian on drug use. No. I do not. Smoke dope. I don't want anyone in my family to, either. But if, God forbide, they do, I don't want them going to prison for it.

28 posted on 01/22/2013 10:02:28 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: JohnPDuncan
Being British she may have been expecting an ASBO.

No one goes to Indonesia without being forewarned of their penalties for drug smuggling.

She shouldn't be surprised at what she got.

29 posted on 01/22/2013 10:08:58 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: JohnPDuncan; All

http://www.flickr.com/photos/semparadeiro/5052593291/


30 posted on 01/22/2013 10:16:15 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Evidently the death penalty and decades long prison sentences are not deterring drug users or drug dealers.

Well, I bet the folks being executed don't deal or abuse drugs anymore.

What percentage of them are being caught? What percentage of them can we hope to catch in a free society?

Don't get me wrong, I'm libertarian on drug use. No. I do not. Smoke dope. I don't want anyone in my family to, either. But if, God forbid, they do, I don't want them going to prison for it.

Good to hear!

31 posted on 01/22/2013 10:26:55 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JohnPDuncan
here is some legal advice, courtesy of Jim Carrey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rVnplh7gnlU
32 posted on 01/22/2013 10:40:34 AM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: wideawake

At least she’ll leave the grandkids with one of life’s important lessons.


33 posted on 01/22/2013 10:50:47 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

My concern for those who use or especially traffic in drugs is as follows:


34 posted on 01/22/2013 10:54:14 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: JohnPDuncan; a fool in paradise

Never don’t mind drug trafficking, shoot ‘er for sheer stupidity!

As they say on this forum, I could care less!


35 posted on 01/22/2013 10:55:15 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: JohnPDuncan; a fool in paradise

“Grandmother, why do you have such a white nose?”


36 posted on 01/22/2013 10:57:17 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: JohnPDuncan

For those who don’t know, Bali is a major destination for Hollywood, Rock Stars and uber-rich honeymoons.
You don’t have to be rich to go there but I suspect this was the eventual target for the drugs.


37 posted on 01/22/2013 11:23:04 AM PST by Zathras
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To: JohnPDuncan; a fool in paradise

Speaking from experience, I can tell you that granny might have gotten away with it had she carried the coke in pounds instead of kilograms!


38 posted on 01/22/2013 11:24:59 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Dogbert41

Granny had a jug with “corn-squeezins,” as she called it.

With Granny’s moonshine, who needs cocaine?

Then there were the Baldwin sisters on “The Waltons,” who liked to serve visitors their Daddy’s “recipe” (more moonshine).


39 posted on 01/22/2013 11:34:36 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: Revolting cat!
kilogram/kill-a-gram. Coincidence?


40 posted on 01/22/2013 11:52:15 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
You’re just tryin’ to cheer me up
I hope it helps, FRiend.
41 posted on 01/22/2013 11:55:31 AM PST by dainbramaged (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Liberaltarians should be dropped off over Indonesia, so they can campaign against the Islamist “war on drugs.”


42 posted on 01/22/2013 12:33:01 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

This reminds me of the movie “Return to Paradise.”


43 posted on 01/22/2013 12:48:27 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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