Skip to comments.Questions regarding when life begins (Vanity)
Posted on 01/22/2013 10:49:32 AM PST by GreenEyedGal
I am asking for personal philosophies regarding when life begins. I believe a strong case can be made scientifically that life begins at conception. However, I've had conversations with the culture of death and they insist that a fertilized egg isn't alive; that a child growing in the womb is a parasite on the mother's body (which, a thought just occurred to me - parasites are living beings as well!); that it's not alive until it's viable (which means my four year old isn't alive!); that because it's attached to its mother's body, mother can decide whether she wants to keep it or not; that the growing, developing fetus is like cancer cells, which also reproduce.
Can you share your thoughts with me on these issues? I'm writing an article in defense of life. I would love to hear from a biologist or a medical doctor. I am also curious about abortifacients. What qualifies as an abortifacient? Pro-death advocates, and even some people who believe abortion is wrong believe the morning after pill is not an abortifacient. And David Green's stand on "week after" birth control is silly because there's no such thing. I thought it was RU486, but supposedly RU486 isn't the same thing as the week after pill.
Thanks for your input.
And just to clarify, I am prolife. Even in cases of rape and incest. I do not believe that the validity and value of life is determined by the circumstances of conception.
When this vanity ends!
Live is a continuous process.
Life is a continuous process.
Does Psalm 139 help?
if they found a single-celled creature on Mars it would be hailed as the greatest discovery ever
When the sperm enters the egg, cells start the process, mitosis and meiosis, of replicating. Those cells, however few they are, have their own DNA. They are a separate organism.
That is when life begins. This is not opinion. It is biology. The above is true regardless whether we’re talking about chickens, dogs, or humans.
1) Sperm is alive
2) Eggs are alive
3) When the sperm enters the egg, everything dies immediately.
4) And later it comes back to life and is a baby.
Personally, I find that to be flawed. I say sperm is alive, egg is alive, both together are alive. More -- when both are together they have a unique chromosonal pattern which is identifiably and indubitably human. There is an individual, living human, right there at the earliest point.
And they want to kill it.
When you have a new fundamentally distinct genetic signature (i.e. not merely a single nucleotide polymorphism or other mutation) such as produced at fertilization.
Exodus chapter 21 refers to a child in the womb as “Yelodehah,” which translates as “her child.” (KJV so delicately translates this as “her fruit.” Yelodehah is no orange.)
Clearly human life begins at date well before birth. The Talmud says that human life begins when the spirit and the body are united, which it says is the 40th day after conception, which, I would imagine is when a woman, or, perhaps the authorities, would be certain, in pre-technological societies, that she is with child.
But the Talmud was written by men, in pretechnological societies. We may be more capable of determining for certain if a woman is with child well before the 40th day.
The two cells that join in conception are alive even before the conception - life doesn’t “begin at conception”, it exists even before the conception.
You’re trying to get these people [sic] away from their pro-death position using logic, but logic will never get someone out of a position that logic didn’t get them into.
at conception.....they are entitled to their own opinion but they cannot have there own facts. Babies in utero do not become anything other than human given enough time to grow
Because all is vanity?
For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost,even from his mother's womb.
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.
(1) A living thing's own young are never described as "parasites" - by definition a parasite is an organism of one species who takes resources from an organism of another species, usually resources that are meant for the host organism's own young.
(2) From the moment of conception until death, there is no stage of development that can be clinically described as a "non-living" state of the organism.
It is a continuous process.
It is impossible to detect the precise moment of "viability" or any other invented milestone.
Spectacular video. Even science gets it now.
If life begins before conception is it a sin to not have as many babies as is humanly possible?
Have you ever heard anyone give a rational reason for drawing a line at any point between conception and a natural death?
As a computer geek, I see DNA as Gods version of a .zip file.
When the two compressed DNA programs from the parent processes are merged, and launched as a child process, that process is a complete design that should run for an average of 70 years, until it self terminates.
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