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'Star Trek Into Darkness' Preview: Prepare To Cry
MTV ^ | January 22, 2013 | Josh Wigler

Posted on 01/22/2013 5:06:33 PM PST by EveningStar

In space, no one can hear you scream. But in theaters showing movies set in space, everyone should be able to hear you cry — as long as director J.J. Abrams does his job right.

In space, no one can hear you scream. But in theaters showing movies set in space, everyone should be able to hear you cry — as long as director J.J. Abrams does his job right.

(Excerpt) Read more at mtv.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: hollywood; moviereview; scifi; startrek; startrekintodarkness
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Short video interview at link
1 posted on 01/22/2013 5:06:37 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Borges; DollyCali; Perdogg; KevinDavis

ping


2 posted on 01/22/2013 5:08:17 PM PST by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: EveningStar

What you’ve posted here seems to be a bit repetitive.

What you’ve posted here seems to be a bit repetitive.


3 posted on 01/22/2013 5:08:39 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: All

Sorry for the double post.


4 posted on 01/22/2013 5:09:37 PM PST by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: Jeff Winston

I know.

I know.


5 posted on 01/22/2013 5:10:56 PM PST by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: EveningStar

That’s ok. It guvs me a chance to repeat my jike.

Does he think he’s produced a bad movie. :)


6 posted on 01/22/2013 5:11:45 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: EveningStar

It’s not really Star Trek, so it hardly matters.


7 posted on 01/22/2013 5:17:02 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: EveningStar; All

This movie is based off of The Original Series episode - “Where No Man Has Gone Before” the second pilot episode. That all Im going to say because its obvious who the blonde woman is and why the villain is seen where a Star fleet uniform and why he wants revenge


8 posted on 01/22/2013 5:18:23 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Nepeta

You know, I kind of feel the same way. Now, I do think the Spock and McCoy characters are well realized, but I can’t get into the new Kirk.


9 posted on 01/22/2013 5:20:49 PM PST by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: EveningStar
JJ!!

ABRAMS!!


10 posted on 01/22/2013 5:21:50 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Bigtigermike

According to what I’ve read, the blonde lady is Dr. Carol Marcus.


11 posted on 01/22/2013 5:23:22 PM PST by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Have you see the captioned version of the second image? :)


12 posted on 01/22/2013 5:27:23 PM PST by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: EveningStar

To be fair, the series had a mature Kirk who was in command of his ship for a few years. Whereas the movies are starting off where Kirk had to take command and has to work to gain the crew’s trust.


13 posted on 01/22/2013 5:28:25 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: EveningStar

Could Charlie X be the new villian in the new Star Trek?


14 posted on 01/22/2013 5:30:08 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: EveningStar

Looks great, I can’t wait for this to come out. It’s one of the few recent movies that I will probably get out to see in the theater.

Two things though:

#1 - Spock’s hair is too “floppy”. When he is running around, it’s getting blown all over the place. The “Vulcan cut” is good, but they need to gel that down. Spock’s hair is more of a helmet than a coif.

#2 - The trailer music. Does every movie that strikes a “dark” tone have to steal from Christopher Nolan’s trick bag? Hans Zimmer, who came up with the gloomy, booming ambient music from Inception and Dark Knight Rises, isn’t half as repetitive as the people copying him. Watch some of the other movies that he has scored, like the Sherlock Holmes films, and you can see that he is much more versatile. If Zimmer can change it up, then certainly the guys doing Star Trek can do better than this.


15 posted on 01/22/2013 5:37:44 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: EveningStar

the nuSpock is not believable. He has no credibility as an actor or character.

I like the new kirk as a younger version of the kennedyesque incarnation of the 1960’s


16 posted on 01/22/2013 5:38:00 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DouglasKC

Well, from some hints they have given in previews and set photos, it seems like the new villain is a former Starfleet officer, so probably not Charlie Evans. He talks about returning for vengeance, so there is obviously a backstory where he has some grievance against the Federation, but I don’t think it will be a story from the original series. They’re trying to appeal to a new generation of viewers, so they won’t throw in some obscure character that only 10% of the audience might have heard of.

In the first film, they did a lot of “shout-outs” to the original series and older films, but they were pretty subtle, so they wouldn’t be a distraction to a viewer that was completely new to the franchise. I think they will continue that with this film. Khan is about the only villain that is well known enough for them to revive without retelling the whole story, but they have said he isn’t Khan, so forget that angle.


17 posted on 01/22/2013 5:43:44 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: longtermmemmory

“the nuSpock is not believable. He has no credibility as an actor or character.”

It’s because Quinto is a gay man with limited talent more interested in promoting a lifestyle than a profession.


18 posted on 01/22/2013 5:47:32 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: EveningStar

Star Trek Phase II
http://phase2trek.com/home.html

A well done fan series for jonesing Trekkies...


19 posted on 01/22/2013 5:49:58 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Boogieman

90% certain it’s going to Gary Mitchell.

I’m thinking that it will be a storyline, along the lines, where the Enterprise either receives a distress signal or is ordered by Star Fleet to respond to a sip in distress, but arrives in time to see ship debris and a lone shuttlecraft, with a lone male occupant claiming to ba a John Harrison, who tells a lie as to how he managed to escape a ship that self destructed and the movie will go from there.


20 posted on 01/22/2013 5:52:27 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Bigtigermike

I’ve heard the Gary Mitchell theory, but I don’t know if it would work. If anything, they might have just taken some inspiration for the new character from Gary Mitchell, but decided to make him a different character so they don’t have to retell the same story.

What is interesting is that Delta Vega is featured in the first film of the new series. Whether that was just an easter egg for the long-time fans, or part of a set-up for the second film, I think we’ll have to wait to find out.


21 posted on 01/22/2013 5:53:27 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: EveningStar

22 posted on 01/22/2013 5:57:30 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: bigfootbob

Ya know a Gay Vulcan Pon Farr seen is probably in the works...


23 posted on 01/22/2013 5:59:17 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“He has no credibility as an actor or character.”

Well, he was Sylar on Heroes, so for some people, he has a lot of credibility as an actor just for that role. He’s no Nimoy, that is for sure, but can you think of an actor of the right age who could do better in the Spock role? I’m drawing a blank.


24 posted on 01/22/2013 6:01:18 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: bigfootbob

that must be why they only let sulu say “warp speed, captain”.

“Phasers set to ‘stunning’, captain.”


25 posted on 01/22/2013 6:02:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Jonty30

It’s possible. I think they would have to do a retelling of the Mitchell story, and not a continuation of it. So, I’m not sure where the vengeance angle comes in. If it were Mitchell wanting vengeance against Kirk for leaving him for dead on a hostile world (that plot sounds kinda familiar), then I could see it. But... then they would have to rehash the backstory for the benefit of the audience, which I don’t think they would want to do.

Plus, this is a young Kirk who probably hasn’t been commanding the ship for very long, so I doubt he has had time for his old adventures to come back to haunt him. So, if it was Mitchell back for revenge, they wouldn’t have the personal angle to work with, and it wouldn’t be as powerful emotionally.


26 posted on 01/22/2013 6:08:13 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

The trailers suggest that Mitchell, if it is Mitchell, is out to get revenge against the Federation, not Kirk.


27 posted on 01/22/2013 6:13:41 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Boogieman

sorry did not get into that tv series. There are a plethora of such actors.

more than a few fans would not shed a tear if he was replaced.


28 posted on 01/22/2013 6:18:48 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I find Sylar to be a credible Spock. Unfortunately, his public admission to being a homosexual will kill off any storylines of relationships with women.

I’m fine with that. I want adventure anyway.


29 posted on 01/22/2013 6:22:42 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: EveningStar

ANOTHER giant FX movie with cardboard characters? How original. Looks like Batman out-takes.


30 posted on 01/22/2013 6:23:45 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Jonty30

Yes, but revenge for what? I think it has to be something that happened before the beginning of the film, at least that is the impression I get. When they say he has “returned”, it implies that before the film starts, he wasn’t around, and that whatever he is seeking vengeance for, happened a while ago.

So, if it’s Mitchell, is this pre-marooning Mitchell, or post-marooning Mitchell? If it is pre, then what is his grievance? If it is post, then why seek vengeance on the whole Federation, and not just Kirk, or whoever marooned him in this continuity?

Personally, I think they wanted to remake Wrath of Khan, but didn’t have the gall to actually do a remake, because the fans would destroy them if it was weak in any way. So, they probably lifted some key ideas from WoK, but made a new villain that wasn’t named Khan, and doesn’t look like Khan. They could then, hopefully, duplicate some of the success of WoK without risking raping the memory of the most successful Star Trek film.


31 posted on 01/22/2013 6:24:10 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Jonty30

and anne heche was able to build her career by taking time as a homosexual.....not.

credibility is everything. there is no place for such homosexuals.

look at what happened to rock hudson’s films. they became instant NONclassics in the bargain bin dumpster.

it would be better to replace him.


32 posted on 01/22/2013 6:26:52 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pabianice

“ANOTHER giant FX movie with cardboard characters?”

How do you know they are cardboard characters if you haven’t seen the film yet? Maybe Scotty’s wrestling with substance abuse issues now.


33 posted on 01/22/2013 6:27:57 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Lots of movies have revenge plots, where the wrong was done in a time frame set before the movie, so having him marooned on some abandoned planet or in a powerless shuttle to die would be a good reason to want revenge.


34 posted on 01/22/2013 6:28:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Captain Garth was a mentally deranged starship captain sent to Elba II and who vowed revenge on the Federation. The new character could be a composite of Garth, Kahn, and Mitchell.


35 posted on 01/22/2013 6:30:02 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: longtermmemmory

“There are a plethora of such actors.”

Ok, then it shouldn’t be hard to name one, eh? I can’t really think of any, certainly not any of the right age with any kind of resume and resemblance to the original actor.


36 posted on 01/22/2013 6:30:31 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: pabianice

Personally I would dearly love to see a Khan Movie showing his youth and fsiled revolution.That would make a fantastic Star Trek Movie.We have the show after the failed revolution,and of course the movie after the planet they are given turns bad,,,but no real movie showing him young and almost ruling the world.


37 posted on 01/22/2013 6:31:57 PM PST by Craftmore
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To: Boogieman

You have to keep in mind that this is not a continuation of the tv show. This is Star Trek rebooted, so while they are using classic characters, it’s not the same universe.


38 posted on 01/22/2013 6:32:56 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Boogieman
previews and set photos, it seems like the new villain is a former Starfleet officer, so probably not Charlie Evans

I'm not sure if that's based on photos of him in Star Fleet uniform but if it is then Charlie Evans was in uniform, or at least uniform looking clothes (including the judo suit) in the original.

It was also a very sad episode in many ways with Charlie going back to the beings who didn't know how to feel or love. That would make him the worst kind of criminal if he were to come back.

Oh well guess we'll know soon enough.. :-)

39 posted on 01/22/2013 6:33:41 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Jonty30

“Unfortunately, his public admission to being a homosexual will kill off any storylines of relationships with women.”

Usually, that’s how it works, but since he is playing a Vulcan, who are kind of strange to begin with, I don’t know if it will matter. Also, pretty much everyone figured that Quinto was gay back when he was on Heroes, and that didn’t stop all the women from lusting after him and pulling for major female characters to get romantically involved with him.


40 posted on 01/22/2013 6:37:25 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: ejonesie22

eeew!


41 posted on 01/22/2013 6:39:01 PM PST by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: Jonty30

True, but it wouldn’t be “personal”. Revenge usually plays out better when there is that personal element, which is why WoK worked so well. The last movie made it personal by tying it in through the Spock character. So I doubt they will go with a plot with less emotional impact in this film, which is supposed to be darker and have more emotional impact.


42 posted on 01/22/2013 6:40:18 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: longtermmemmory

Most movie viewers would be more bothered by such a change, mid-stream. It would certainly hurt the box office. As long as Syler keeps his mouth shut about his homosexuality, most people will get over his public admission, if he plays his part well.


43 posted on 01/22/2013 6:43:33 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Craftmore

Yes, it would be awesome, but being so far back in the past, it would have to be a time travel plot in order to tie it in with any Star Trek series. How they would time travel back and show those events, but not change them, and make a good plot out of it, I can’t imagine. It could maybe work as a stand-alone, non-Star Trek film, like the “Hannibal Rising” origin story for Hannibal Lektor was done.


44 posted on 01/22/2013 6:45:26 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Jonty30

Yes, I know that. Still, if it’s Mitchell, and they are keeping the same basic storyline for him, then it doesn’t seem to add up for me.


45 posted on 01/22/2013 6:46:36 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: DouglasKC

Charlie Evans was just a teenager though, he wasn’t a Starfleet officer, which is the impression I get for this villain. I could be wrong, this is just my guess.


46 posted on 01/22/2013 6:48:57 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Bigtigermike

47 posted on 01/22/2013 6:51:08 PM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: EveningStar; All

For all you sh-Acting fans out there, here’s the full version of “Incubus”, the 1966 suspense/horror film Shatner starred in which was filmed entirely in the Esperanto language (and yes, Shatner does manage to “shact” in a completely non-native tongue):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHUfHj2lTaM


48 posted on 01/22/2013 6:52:39 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Perdogg

Every time I see that actress, all I can think of is her saying “Hidden Valley Ranch” in that breathy, seductive voice. Sign me up for a trip to her “Hidden Valley”, anytime :)


49 posted on 01/22/2013 6:56:24 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I have the DVD. :)


50 posted on 01/22/2013 7:35:22 PM PST by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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