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Can we prevent an open civil war?
self | 01/23/2013 | reluctantwarrior

Posted on 01/23/2013 8:26:55 PM PST by reluctantwarrior

Can we wait four years to defend the constitution with force of arms?<>

Yes, if we launch a massive ground campaign to retake the senate in 2014 through electing Tea Party conservatives<>

Yes, if the House keeps gun control at bay until 2014 and we hold the House majority<>

Yes, if a million new folks join the NRA before the end of 2013 and pledge to vote for pro gun candidates<>

No, if we wait and see what happens in 2014


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: elections; guncontrol; guns; revolution; secondamendment; teaparty
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

I’m in!


21 posted on 01/23/2013 8:47:40 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: reluctantwarrior
Not unless you can figure out how to refill EBT cards on a mass scale!

0m0slem stops the refill, and blames whitey. What do ya thinks gonna happen?

Face facts. He's got a hair trigger army of cannon fodder ready to burn.

22 posted on 01/23/2013 8:47:45 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: reluctantwarrior

What realistic scenario do you foresee?
Have you heard of Waco or of Ruby Ridge?


23 posted on 01/23/2013 8:48:30 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: theBuckwheat

Assuming the results of a convention are good, why wouldn’t they just ignore those laws, too? The answer for how to get them to abide by the Constitution is not another constitution.


24 posted on 01/23/2013 8:49:06 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: reluctantwarrior

Might be premature but apparently Alabama is now under control by Homeland Security according to a new thread just posted.

If true, which I’m skeptical then its too late to vote.


25 posted on 01/23/2013 8:49:45 PM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: reluctantwarrior

What you believe in is irrelevant. Elections no longer believe in you.


26 posted on 01/23/2013 8:50:30 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: reluctantwarrior

If there were not enough people motivated to vote O hole out of office, good luck finding enough willing to take up arms! Lol!


27 posted on 01/23/2013 8:51:56 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I foresee a lot of brave talk, and an entirely peaceful descent into our version of Peronism, from which there is no return despite all the misery it brings. As you said, Argentina. The parallels are all there before our eyes.


28 posted on 01/23/2013 8:53:02 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: reluctantwarrior
If we fight a civil war we will not be the US ever again.

Having grown up in the 50's and 60's, I already see that the US as it was will never be again.

The Kenyan is only accelerating the descent into whatever sceneario he has in mind. The massive vote fraud has me convinced there can be no going back in a civilized manner at this point.

What is going to happen, no idea, but I am convinced there will never again be the America I grew up in. The powers that be are too entrenched to allow that with any sort of peaceful resolution.

One of the few things to be thankful for about getting old and not having children.

29 posted on 01/23/2013 8:55:08 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Revolting cat!

If we sit on our hands to hurry the turmoil along then we will probably see red flag events like a Waco or Ruby Ridge then the feds will have a real reason to call for disarmament. Waco and RR should of led to some type of open demonstrations against federal abuse of power there was some but not enough in my opinion. I call them red flag because if the feds do it again it may spark an open fight. I want to elect majorities and return US to rep. republic through dismantling the federal govt


30 posted on 01/23/2013 8:55:57 PM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: reluctantwarrior

Ballots will not produce nourishment for the tree of Liberty.


31 posted on 01/23/2013 8:58:12 PM PST by DonnerT (After all is said and done, it is God's Will that will be done.)
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

A Constitutional Convention cannot be controlled ... it would be hijacked by the Leftist. And the Agenda cannot be limited ... once the liberals / leftists succeed in a hijacking - then the 1st. and 2nd. Amendments will be eliminated...


32 posted on 01/23/2013 9:01:27 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: reluctantwarrior
Criticism is greatly appreciated but suggestions carry the most weight in a discussion.What would you do?

Giving money to the NRA is not a solution.

33 posted on 01/23/2013 9:02:39 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: stylecouncilor

To paraphrase David Crockett: “You all can go to Hell. I’m going to South Carolina!”


34 posted on 01/23/2013 9:03:09 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

“It worked over 200 years ago, maybe it would help now.”

Bad idea, on steroids!

“Low information voters” = end of the above idea.


35 posted on 01/23/2013 9:03:30 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: allmendream

I am calling for civil disobedience and politicking to return conservatives or strict constructionists to the house and senate. I want to undo the NFA of 1934, I do not want a civil war. If it is too late for elections and politicking then you are correct, all the PX commandos sounding off about this in this thread will bitch and moan and stay home.


36 posted on 01/23/2013 9:03:39 PM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: Eye of Unk

That post about Alabama is total bunk ...


37 posted on 01/23/2013 9:04:36 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: meadsjn

Ok, but what would you do? I know you dislike the NRA, but what would you do?


38 posted on 01/23/2013 9:05:45 PM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: Michael Barnes

I agree. The LAST thing we want is a “Constitutional Convention”. That garbage that would come out of that fiasco would be intolerable and cause a civil war.


39 posted on 01/23/2013 9:07:26 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: theBuckwheat
“Shame on anyone wanting to ask about open civil war before we completely discuss the peaceful alternative, a Constitutional Convention.”

Why would you want a Constitutional Convention? And do what there? Say, “we really mean it you can't take our guns?” There is nothing wrong with the constitution - there is something wrong with having a Muslim communist as president who wants to disarm us. If by any means Hussein tries to forcibly remove our guns, there will be civil war as we exercise our 2nd amendment right.

40 posted on 01/23/2013 9:09:10 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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