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OBAMA TO TOP BRASS: WILL YOU FIRE ON AMERICAN CITIZENS?
http://www.nextnewsnetwork.com/ ^ | January 25, 2013 | SeekTheTruth

Posted on 01/25/2013 9:11:40 AM PST by seekthetruth

The Obama administration is openly escalating its campaign against private gun ownership, and shaking up the top ranks of the military command structure -- but is it also preparing to make war on the American population? According to a person identified as a former senior military official, the answer to that shocking question is yes.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; communism; constitution; guncontrol; military; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/25/2013 9:11:48 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth; manc; wymck; ghost26; PJammers; myuval; tiredofreeloaders; WBITT; bigcheese; Yulee; ..

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2 posted on 01/25/2013 9:15:17 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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3 posted on 01/25/2013 9:15:18 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: seekthetruth; manc; wymck; ghost26; PJammers; myuval; tiredofreeloaders; WBITT; bigcheese; Yulee; ..

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4 posted on 01/25/2013 9:15:51 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: seekthetruth

Setting the stage?


5 posted on 01/25/2013 9:16:27 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: seekthetruth

Oath keepers?


6 posted on 01/25/2013 9:17:42 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: seekthetruth

You got to have enough soldiers to agree to actually fire. Plus, if this were true, that would mean there were generals who answered ‘no’ and would come out and say so.


7 posted on 01/25/2013 9:19:28 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Laughable so far..


8 posted on 01/25/2013 9:19:28 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: SMARTY

I am sorry about the triple pings! Sure don’t know how that happened!

I have confidence that our US Military will NOT fire on their fellow Americans!


9 posted on 01/25/2013 9:19:48 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: seekthetruth

Our government is now officially our enemy.


10 posted on 01/25/2013 9:19:58 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: seekthetruth

Too conspiracy sounding, this kind of stuff won’t play beyond a fringe. Now when they find some hard evidence or someone of some rank steps forward then come and tell me.


11 posted on 01/25/2013 9:20:13 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: justice14

So do you think there is nothing to the so called litmus test to our Military leaders?? That it didn’t happen?


12 posted on 01/25/2013 9:22:40 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: seekthetruth

Could be his plan to solve the deficit, many civilians and solders dying.

His friend and associate wouldn’t have a problem with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HWMIwziGrAQ


13 posted on 01/25/2013 9:24:51 AM PST by GreatMan
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To: seekthetruth
Nothing Obama does surprises me.

But I'm not going to get worked up until names get named instead of a "source" or "sources"

Until then, this is just noise.

14 posted on 01/25/2013 9:25:18 AM PST by gdani
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To: junta; bevperl; All
Too conspiracy sounding, this kind of stuff won’t play beyond a fringe. Now when they find some hard evidence or someone of some rank steps forward then come and tell me.

I sure don't want to be guilty of posting something that is completely untrue...or unfounded. I personally would not put it past Obama to actually have this litmus test, but like you said, I would hope our Military leaders would come forward and blow the whistle.

15 posted on 01/25/2013 9:27:05 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: seekthetruth
Will you fire on American citizens?

My answer to that question would be an enthusiastic "yes".

I would be willing to fire on the sorry b@$+ard citizen WHO GAVE THE ORDER to fire on American citizens.

16 posted on 01/25/2013 9:27:15 AM PST by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: seekthetruth

I don’t know one way or another. But you still need men willing to fire upon us.


17 posted on 01/25/2013 9:27:44 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: junta

Would some of the adults on the bang list police this kind of crap. All this does is demoralize our side by making the gun grabbers as the all powerful authority figure conspiracy. Now I understand this crap plays to a juvenille mindset, but we need better info than what these clown show types can produce.


18 posted on 01/25/2013 9:28:10 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: seekthetruth

Third ping? LOL...I have the same problem when I send out a ping...I think it’s something with FR. I have no idea why it happens.

That said, will you add me to your ping list please?


19 posted on 01/25/2013 9:29:34 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: seekthetruth

There are 90 to 100 million gun owners in America. If the federals decided to declare open war on its citizens, and only ten percent of gun owners fought back, that would be a patriot force 9 to 10 million strong - vastly outnumbering any force the federals could bring against us.

It’s even worse for the federals, because they can’t rely on 100% of their estimated 1.5 million uniformed personnel obeying such orders. I doubt if even a third would comply. There would be massive disruption in the ranks if such an order were ever given.

Lastly, the executives and officers giving such orders would probably find themselves imprisoned for life, if not executed for the crime of Treason.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 9:29:51 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: seekthetruth

Freaking conservatives out is becoming a profitable cottage industry.

No one doubts Obama’s nefarious capability to destroy, but rational Americans still retain some small regard for accuracy in story telling. Tolerance is usually somewhat limited when second hand information is attributed to anonymous sources.

I don’t disbelieve much of anything when it comes to Obama, but this story goes nowhere seriously, but for making us look like Neanderthals.

The courageous speak up, loud and clear. “Anonymous Source” needs to speak up, for himself.


21 posted on 01/25/2013 9:30:27 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: seekthetruth

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2981781/posts

Could this be connected?

Obama Fires Top General Without Even a Phone Call

President Barack Obama fired General James Mattis, the head of Central Command, without even calling the general to let him know he was being replaced.

“I am told that General Mattis was travelling and in a meeting when an aide passed him a note telling him that the Pentagon had announced his replacement as head of Central Command. It was news to him — he hadn’t received a phone call or a heads-up from anyone at the Pentagon or the White House,” Thomas E. Ricks reports.


22 posted on 01/25/2013 9:30:35 AM PST by GraceG
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To: seekthetruth

bump for later......


23 posted on 01/25/2013 9:31:35 AM PST by indthkr
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To: RatRipper

Will you fire on American citizens?

My answer to that question would be an enthusiastic “yes”.

I would be willing to fire on the sorry b@$+ard citizen WHO GAVE THE ORDER to fire on American citizens.

If I were inthe millitary and asked that I would repeat that last part in my mind over and over again.... While saying “yes, yes I would” to the scum asking me that question.


24 posted on 01/25/2013 9:33:51 AM PST by GraceG
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To: RitaOK
Freaking conservatives out is becoming a profitable cottage industry.

Beware of the lunatic "Sandy Hook was a conspiracy/hoax" threads!

25 posted on 01/25/2013 9:34:58 AM PST by gdani
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To: seekthetruth

I would say yes, then just not give the order...of course after I was shot for not giving the order, the next guy would probably step over my body and give the order...that’s just how this sort of thing works.

I’d be dead, but I’d be righteous


26 posted on 01/25/2013 9:36:57 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr
Just received this from a frend:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-fires-top-general-without-even-phone-call_697744.html

27 posted on 01/25/2013 9:38:35 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: junta

Something I noticed in the video. First, there was a large “9” behind the news guy. I assumed it is to mean, channel 9 news.

But the streaming background clearly showed news 24.

I also saw some channel call letters.

Is this a real news channel or is it a set to give the impression of a legitimate news room / news cast?

Curious if any noticed some....hoacki-ness.


28 posted on 01/25/2013 9:39:13 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: seekthetruth

OBAMA TO TOP BRASS: WILL YOU FIRE ON AMERICAN CITIZENS?

Great, and since Bath house barry isn’t can they shoot him now?


29 posted on 01/25/2013 9:41:52 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: seekthetruth

That’s why I believe most will say yes, but just not do it, if it really comes down to it.


30 posted on 01/25/2013 9:42:20 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr

You would also be in good company starting with our founding fathers and Minutemen Patriots.


31 posted on 01/25/2013 9:42:37 AM PST by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: seekthetruth

My gut reaction was, ‘No .... our sons and daughters will not fire on us’. But .... then I remembered Kent State.


32 posted on 01/25/2013 9:44:31 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: seekthetruth

It better be no


33 posted on 01/25/2013 9:47:43 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: 4yearlurker

Except that their deaths produced the desired results, while mine, after the guy stepped over me and said fire, wouldn’t have.

Luckily we don’t live forever...


34 posted on 01/25/2013 9:48:32 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: seekthetruth

and soldiers that fired on American citizens would have to worry about all those who wouldn’t


35 posted on 01/25/2013 9:50:28 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: RitaOK

I presume I can stop ‘freaking out’, after the SWAT team has raided the house? /s

I place the story in the same column I did w/ O and the Brady Group (ALA their ‘backdoor’ plan vs. 2nd Amend). What did we ultimately find? Fast & Furious.

I put nothing past this Marxist piece of shit in the Oval Office.

At the least, people are starting to take note, stock up and learn their Rights and how to utilize them. Little bit of fear and paranoia didn’t kill anyone...unless they ARE out to get you.


36 posted on 01/25/2013 9:53:33 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: justice14

The UN troops will with glee.


37 posted on 01/25/2013 9:53:44 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: seekthetruth

The bankers who lend to the Federal government, step by step, are moving towards merging U.S. into one world government.

China and Russia would be no problem to merge.

The Chinese military oath is to the Communist party, the total membership of which is a small percentage of the total population, who are simply serfs.

The U.S. military oath is to uphold the U.S. Constitution. The one world government plan is to step by step make small changes to that, likely to include some minor references to some regional group like NATO, or the U.N.

It’s only a percentage of U.S. citizens that have backbone and would balk at the idea of merging the U.S. in any way; the key changes would be attempted to be done as quietly as possible and the evening news would fully support them with propaganda.

Communism and the left is a front for the big lenders, all useful idiots, as are muzzies. Russia and China are really ruled behind the scenes by big capital.

Check it out, FRiends...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russians_by_net_worth
http://www.forbes.com/china-billionaires/

They do business with all the businesses that run the U.S. government.

U.S. politicians would mostly just give in except for a few Republicans, as most are simply obedient order-takers of the money that keeps them in office and can smear them out of office in 2 seconds. All that has to happen to merge from politicians’ point of view is have Congress ratify a treaty.


38 posted on 01/25/2013 9:55:49 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: All

We all seem to have confidence (We, I said) that our military wouldn’t turn arms on us.

But Wesley Clark has proven that that is not the case.

There are rank and file who would fire on Citizens. Don’t believe for a second that (we) are safe from this.

An all-out war ? Not likely. But there are leaders in the military who would follow this order, and there are subordinates that would follow it as well.


39 posted on 01/25/2013 10:01:27 AM PST by Celerity
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To: stuartcr

In battle,many Patriots fell and were stepped over.

Read “The Light and the Glory” from 1977 by Peter Marshall & David Manuel. Great reading about ordinary citizens,and their prayers and their fight for liberty. John Adams wrote to his wife Abigail: “ I am well aware of the toil and blood and treasure that it will cost us to maintain this Declaration,and support and defend these states....”


40 posted on 01/25/2013 10:02:12 AM PST by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: Windflier
It’s even worse for the federals, because they can’t rely on 100% of their estimated 1.5 million uniformed personnel obeying such orders.

UTAH LAW ENFORCEMENT THREATENS OBAMA WITH WAR

This is not just an isolated example of rebellion, I think. States all over the Republic are passing legislation that mirror this or close to it....

41 posted on 01/25/2013 10:04:14 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: seekthetruth
I remember when this was much discussed.

Twewntynine Palms survey of Marines, 1994

Consider the following statement: `I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government'."

The question was then posed as to what degree the individual Marine agreed with the Statement.

According to the results given in Cunningham's thesis, a total of 88 percent, or 264 Marines, responded to the question.

Of the 264 who responded, 26.34 percent, or 79 Marines, indicated they would be willing to "fire upon U.S. citizens."

Of that total, 18.67 percent, or 56 Marines, indicated they "agree" with the statement, and 7.67 percent, or 23 Marines, indicated that they "strongly agree."

A total of 61.66 percent, or 185, indicated that they were opposed to firing at citizens.

Of the total, 42.33 percent, or 127, indicated they "strongly disagree" and 19.33 percent, or 58, indicated they "disagree."

In his thesis, Cunningham noted: "This particular question, unlike the others, elicited from 15.97 percent of the respondents with an opinion, either heavier pen or pencil marks on their response or written comments in the margin space. The responses to this scenario suggest that a complete unit breakdown could occur in a unit tasked to execute this mission,"

However, it becomes clear that a poll would be useful in determining which soldiers, and in this case Marines, would be willing to undertake such a mission, to fire upon U.S. citizens."

It's getting closer and closer to the time when the military will have to choose sides. IMO.

42 posted on 01/25/2013 10:06:32 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 4yearlurker

Of course they did, just like in all wars.


43 posted on 01/25/2013 10:07:43 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: seekthetruth
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

- B.H. Obama

44 posted on 01/25/2013 10:08:41 AM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: The Wizard; All
and soldiers that fired on American citizens would have to worry about all those who wouldn’t

I agree.

And just received this:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/25/report-washington-didnt-even-tell-marine-gen-he-was-being-replaced/

45 posted on 01/25/2013 10:09:02 AM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: DownInFlames

If you were in the army in a foreign country and your commander ordered you to fire on that country’s citizens because they were rebelling, would you?

...with glee?


46 posted on 01/25/2013 10:10:54 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: layman
But .... then I remembered Kent State.

The Guardsmen who fired at Kent State should have been court martialled then drawn and quartered.... for incompetence.

They fired and killed innocent bystanders over 400 meters from the action. IF you're going to shoot, you'd better have a dead body for every round fired and it better be in the target group! 12 shots, means 12 dead bodies at the point of conflict. That way, even if it was shown that the order to fire was wrong, at least it would have shown they knew what they were doing and the dead were associated with the direct event. Not just going to class a quarter of a mile distant and uninvolved....

47 posted on 01/25/2013 10:11:19 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: gdani
Until then, this is just noise.

Agreed. I used to get all spun up about crap like this, because in my heart of hearts, I'm a conspiracist because I do know that the NWO is an orchestrated event and has been run by the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg group for many decades and it is on the cusp of being fulfilled! But this kind of stuff is too overt for the likes of them. I could happen but it's unlikely. So until I hear more that really convinces me, I refuse to get all "spun up" again.

48 posted on 01/25/2013 10:15:38 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: seekthetruth

Bump


49 posted on 01/25/2013 10:17:03 AM PST by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: seekthetruth

NTSA

Unnamed source supposedly overhearing an unnamed member of the military. No corroboration, no one officially coming forward, no documented evidence. Might has well come from Dan Rather or Alex Jones. Can we get back to critical thinking around here?


50 posted on 01/25/2013 10:18:40 AM PST by mnehring
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