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Two Videos, Two Cities, Two Attitudes (Semi-Vanity)

Posted on 01/27/2013 7:05:34 AM PST by Altariel

Two very different police recruitment videos:

Decatur, Georgia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIgt8pmh7CU

Newport Beach, California: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_rKA6ROAVk

Where would you rather live: in a place which polices like Decatur, or a place which polices like Newport Beach?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: california; decatur; donutwatch; georgia; newportbeach; police

1 posted on 01/27/2013 7:05:42 AM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Frankly, Newport Beach, the video designed for men, Decatur, for women and metrosexuals. That’s how I see it. Back to the man cave.......


2 posted on 01/27/2013 7:12:56 AM PST by john drake
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To: john drake

I’d think I’d rather live where the police see themselves as servants and guardians of the people, rather than hobnail booted aggressors. My cousin retired as Lieutenant Detective from the NYPD, where he ended his career serving on the Manhattan DA’s homicide squad. He claims he never drew his weapon once, in his entire career.


3 posted on 01/27/2013 7:25:35 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"He claims he never drew his weapon once, in his entire career."

I don't buy this assertion for one single second. For one reason or another (I don't know the specific reason), this is BS.

4 posted on 01/27/2013 7:30:42 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: Altariel
I've never been to Decatur but I did have a friend who managed very high end properties and maintained Rolls Royce cars for folks in Newport, and I know where So Cal's new population comes from.
I expect that the demands on police are quite different between the two cities.
That said; I'd prefer the implied life style in Decatur, assuming it doesn't share Chicago's dark side.
5 posted on 01/27/2013 7:33:09 AM PST by norton
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To: Altariel

One of them looks like an Armed Forces recruiting video.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 7:38:02 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

You don’t know my cousin. He said that the nearest he ever came to drawing his weapon was when he was a patrolman in Harlem, and driving home late one night, he had a flat on 125th Street. When we was changing the flat in his civilian cloths, some “yutes” started to harass him. He kept his cool and after he finished changing the tire, he got the hell out of there. He also brought his weapon in a shoulder holster to my father’s funereal in Jamaica, Queens (not far from where my cousin grew up) saying he always he always carried his gun in Jamaica (good idea).

Once, as a patrolman, he calmly talked a Puerto Rican man who distraught about a matrimonial matter, and brandishing a gun in an intersection in Brooklyn to put away the gun and surrender peaceably. The Newport, CA police probably could have used an incident like that to make the nightly news.

My cousin, btw, is only about 5’ 9”, and slightly built. He served four years in the AF as an AP, and probably learned that the commander didn’t want his airmen in the hospital for three months because they got a little drunk and loud.


7 posted on 01/27/2013 7:45:09 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

You don’t know my cousin. He said that the nearest he ever came to drawing his weapon was when he was a patrolman in Harlem, and driving home late one night, he had a flat on 125th Street. When we was changing the flat in his civilian cloths, some “yutes” started to harass him. He kept his cool and after he finished changing the tire, he got the hell out of there. He also brought his weapon in a shoulder holster to my father’s funereal in Jamaica, Queens (not far from where my cousin grew up) saying he always he always carried his gun in Jamaica (good idea).

Once, as a patrolman, he calmly talked a Puerto Rican man who distraught about a matrimonial matter, and brandishing a gun in an intersection in Brooklyn to put away the gun and surrender peaceably. The Newport, CA police probably could have used an incident like that to make the nightly news.

My cousin, btw, is only about 5’ 9”, and slightly built. He served four years in the AF as an AP, and probably learned that the commander didn’t want his airmen in the hospital for three months because they got a little drunk and loud.


8 posted on 01/27/2013 7:45:09 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

You don’t know my cousin. He said that the nearest he ever came to drawing his weapon was when he was a patrolman in Harlem, and driving home late one night, he had a flat on 125th Street. When we was changing the flat in his civilian cloths, some “yutes” started to harass him. He kept his cool and after he finished changing the tire, he got the hell out of there. He also brought his weapon in a shoulder holster to my father’s funereal in Jamaica, Queens (not far from where my cousin grew up) saying he always he always carried his gun in Jamaica (good idea).

Once, as a patrolman, he calmly talked a Puerto Rican man who distraught about a matrimonial matter, and brandishing a gun in an intersection in Brooklyn to put away the gun and surrender peaceably. The Newport, CA police probably could have used an incident like that to make the nightly news.

My cousin, btw, is only about 5’ 9”, and slightly built. He served four years in the AF as an AP, and probably learned that the commander didn’t want his airmen in the hospital for three months because they got a little drunk and loud.


9 posted on 01/27/2013 7:45:09 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: john drake

Ahh, so referring to the public as “citizens” is appropriate for women and metrosexuals?


10 posted on 01/27/2013 7:57:49 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Well, you two can keep your little BS session going for the rest of your lives if you want, but you posted it and I ain’t buying what your cousin says. Something stinks.


11 posted on 01/27/2013 8:01:55 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Indeed; government employees ought view themselves as working for the people, not enforcers of the people.


12 posted on 01/27/2013 8:02:02 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

One of the regrettable consequences of the war on drugs (like prohibition) is the militarization of the police.


13 posted on 01/27/2013 8:11:55 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Altariel

One of the regrettable consequences of the war on drugs (like prohibition) is the militarization of the police.


14 posted on 01/27/2013 8:11:55 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yes, drug bust training and activity began the police state abuse and the domestic war on terror over funded it, jacked it up and sent it to the moon.

Whereas drug users and dealers (gangs) were targeted by the militarized drug police units, with the expansion of the WOT, everyone gets to be treated like a potential terrorist interacting with a anti-constitution occupying military force.

The Federal government has proven that it is not worthy of the power given to it in the name of stoping Islamic terror within the country. They politicalized their war against their thought enemies and those enemies just happen to be the citizens who demand they respect the constitution. The war on terror demands a federal, state and local structure of constitutional violation and citizen abuse.


15 posted on 01/27/2013 9:11:03 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

P. J. O’Rouke said it best, “Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.”


16 posted on 01/27/2013 9:13:53 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Altariel

Yikes, that Newport Beach video tells me that if I’m caught driving thru that town I’m gonna get pulled over and have the crap beat out of me..........


17 posted on 01/27/2013 9:43:27 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Altariel

While the first video is what I prefer my police department to be, I understand that in some neighborhoods in large metropolitan areas, that might not work. However, the first line of the paragraph under the second video says all there is to say: “We are a highly progressive Police Department”. I get the feeling that it would be an attack first, ask questions later, type of organization. If you did not survive the attack, they could say ANYTHING about you and you’d have no way to defend yourself or your name.


18 posted on 01/27/2013 9:51:25 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Altariel

Huh? Not sure where your question originated from or where it’s going, but I do know, living in one of the three largest cities in the U.S., especially one that is overrun with gangs controlling the distribution of drugs (estimated to cause 70% of all crime) and are busy killing each other and innocent bystanders, well, I’d rather have the police operate as a paramilitary at this point given they’re outmanned and outgunned by these punks. As for policemen/women acting as public service oriented (as was more the case in the Decatur video), sure, most cops deal with those issues more than violent crime on a daily basis, but don’t discount for a second the savage nature of gangs, if you don’t go after them with vigilance and toughness, they’ll control everything. As a matter of fact, this war has already been lost in most gang-controlled neighborhoods because the public officials and cops can’t contain them and protect the citizens who witness and are victims of the gang related crimes, so they don’t testify for fear of their own, and families, lives. I’d rather have cops ready to kick some serious a$$ at anytime as long as it correctly focused and aimed at the right, repeat, organized offenders. Hell ya.


19 posted on 01/27/2013 10:22:56 AM PST by john drake
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To: Altariel

Just d-mn!

Well. It isn’t called “Behind the Orange Curtain” for nothing.

Decauter seems like a nice place. The Mexican gangs haven’t gotten there apparently.

Yet.


20 posted on 01/27/2013 11:48:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: john drake

Remember: anything you justify being used against criminals/terrorists, etc. can be used against you.

Think of this: when is the last time any local paper reported: “Police take out [insert name of gang]”

When was the last time you heard of a police officer raiding a “wrong house” or shooting a law-abiding citizen or his/her dog?

Consider how far more often the latter is reported than the former.


21 posted on 01/27/2013 9:20:52 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: john drake

If a video is designed for metrosexuals and women, then it follows that “real, conservative men” have no to little interest in being treated as esteemed citizens by the police; moreover, it follows that “conservatives” do not believe that the police are answerable to them, and that only women and metrosexuals care about such things.

I submit that such an argument displays a low view of conservative men.

If a video is designed for “men”, then it follows that “men” support and approve of a self-described “highly progressive Police Department.”

Clearly, we have entirely different understandings on what it is to be conservative.


22 posted on 01/27/2013 9:29:39 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Ok, I wasn’t aware this was a test of the definition of a conservative vs. what...a fascist? My comment was primarily sarcasm, I guess I left out the “sic” after my comment. I thought the comment of retreating back to my man cave may have been a hint. The Newport Beach video was obviously shallow; one sided and almost the approach of a high school football team recruitment video, although I’d rather have fit, well trained policemen on a force than a lot of what I see regularly. As for the Decatur video, more balanced, more citizen friendly, sending a different message, but....police personnel are still agents of the state, regardless of how they are portrayed in a video. I guess living in a big city with family members who were cops creates a little more cynicism and quick reaction in commentary, if so I’m certainly guilty of that.

Not everyone responds with a serious comment every time on this website; a little levity can be refreshing. Next time I will assume logical argument exercises will be around the corner and prepare my responses accordingly.


23 posted on 01/28/2013 3:27:41 AM PST by john drake
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To: Altariel

I too have never understood how submitting to abuse and being treated as though i was a criminal simply for breathing is a Conservative value.


24 posted on 01/28/2013 10:55:11 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: john drake

Thanks for the clarification.

Freegards,


25 posted on 01/28/2013 11:32:40 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Happy to oblige. Take care.


26 posted on 01/28/2013 5:42:01 PM PST by john drake
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