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Scout leaders in Charleston respond to possible gay policy reversal (WVA)
WOWK ^ | Alanna Autler

Posted on 01/29/2013 1:00:21 PM PST by Morgana

The Boy Scouts of America is considering ending its national ban on membership based on sexual orientation.

Under the revision being considered, the different religious and civic groups that sponsor Scout units would be able to decide for themselves how to address the matter, CBS reported Monday.

Troops would have the option of either maintaining an exclusion of gays or opening up their membership.

BSA spokesman Deron Smith said under the proposed change... "the Boy Scouts would not, under any circumstances, dictate a position to units, members, or parents."

Leaders of Troop 64 in Charleston said they would defer to BSA in deciding its policy.

"We pretty much just follow whatever the policies are of the national organization, whatever votes they have at the different councils," said Kevin Abdalla, the assistant scout mater for Troop 64.

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KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; charleston; homosexualagenda; westvirginia

1 posted on 01/29/2013 1:00:29 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana
"We pretty much just follow whatever the policies are of the national organization, whatever votes they have at the different councils," said Kevin Abdalla, the assistant scout mater for Troop 64.

Is that sort of a Muzzie surname?

3 posted on 01/29/2013 1:10:05 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Morgana

So now the Boy Scouts want to be just like the Girl Scouts, what next? Will be advocating for abortion also? Why does every traditional family oriented and value group have to fold to the liberals and gays? They are welcome to start their own organizations with their own values and traditions.

This so like when the Women Libbers demanded access to traditional all male clubs but screamed bloody murder when a man tried to join a woman’s organization. I thought we were guaranteed freedom of association for all, but I guess the reality is that freedom is only for the special classes.


4 posted on 01/29/2013 1:11:29 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Morgana

Cop out for the home office of the BSA. They don’t want the direct responsibility when the tents go up and the pedophiles line up to be troop leaders. The San Francisco BS will be 1st to go gay I’m sure.


5 posted on 01/29/2013 1:13:35 PM PST by albie
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To: Morgana

A pity, fourth generation military and I’m strongly pushing my son not to consider serving over gays. Now I guess he will have to drop out of scouts as well.


6 posted on 01/29/2013 1:14:05 PM PST by apillar
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To: Morgana
It is never a good idea to put sodomites in charge of young boys. Their deviancy defines them. What do you think they are going to do? Exploit their opportunities.

The Bible says put them to death (doesn't specify the means), not put them in charge of your sons.

8 posted on 01/29/2013 1:20:36 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: Morgana
What could go wrong?


9 posted on 01/29/2013 1:21:12 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Morgana

Sure, individual units can do this and that. And boys move and transfer and don’t know what the situation is each time. I guess the onus is on them to find out, rather than trust they won’t be asked to go camping with people who find them sexually attractive.

Also, there are big events like Camp O Ree and stuff, everyone goes. You could have a flamer’s patrol at mess with you, at events with you, sharing the latrine with you. . . how appealing.

Not to mention that added allure for homosexual adults to get involved with the Scouts, now, as more willing sex partners are easier to find.

Good grief. This nation has lost its mind.


10 posted on 01/29/2013 1:27:41 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: F15Eagle

Yep. The end is nearly at hand. Very sad.


11 posted on 01/29/2013 1:28:53 PM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Morgana

Tom Lehrer would have to update his lyrics to be more inclusive:

http://www.metrolyrics.com/be-prepared-lyrics-tom-lehrer.html


12 posted on 01/29/2013 1:29:26 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Morgana
Troops would have the option of either maintaining an exclusion of gays or opening up their membership.

That won't work. Who would send their boy to a scout camp where there may be homosexual scouts and scout leaders?

13 posted on 01/29/2013 1:34:01 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: Persevero

My boys will not be a part of the new Boy Scouts.


14 posted on 01/29/2013 1:38:54 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: steve86

Yes. it is Arabic for “servant of allah”.


15 posted on 01/29/2013 1:42:13 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: TheDon

IMO there would be no shortage of young mothers who would do that. They think TV shows describe the real world ergo homos are safer than straight guys.


16 posted on 01/29/2013 1:43:46 PM PST by Varda
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Liberals

What Can You Say?

Donate

17 posted on 01/29/2013 1:51:58 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Waiting for the trannies to start joining DAR.


18 posted on 01/29/2013 2:03:06 PM PST by Help!
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To: TheDon

Folks, it goes MUCH deeper than just passing the buck. They are after religion and won’t stop until they have done away with every last vestige of decency based in God’s Word. They don’t want ANYONE to question their lifestyle.

Look, they have played this beautifully. They KNOW they can’t go after churches - YET, but they know they have to stop kids from learning about God in order to push their lifestyle on as many kids as possible. The head of BSA has been feeling pressure for months from GLAAD and several board members also head up large corporations, also feeling the pressure from the sodomites. The head of BSA has publicly stated that he is leaning towards doing away with the regs and this is a way to try to pacify the sodomites AND try to smooth things over with the rest of us who see this for what it is. They are going after the last refuge scouting went to when they forced them out of schools and public places. Why do you think they are “passing along” the rule writing to the chartered organizations, whose only responsibility since scouting was started was to provide a place to meet?

I am the Chartered Org. Rep for our cub scout pack & boys scout troop. Basically, I represent the church where they meet. Liability has ALWAYS been an issue with the church, to the point people are reluctant to have the church name on the scout trailer for fear someone would sue the church should they wreck it. IF the BSA national office goes through with this, the chartered organizations, 70% of which are religious, private institutions, would essentially be forced to toss the scouts because they wouldn’t want to risk getting sued. Add to that it would effectively force these religious institutions to put in writing that they are excluding gays and you can see where the lawyers will have a field day.

So, forcing the scouts from the last bastions of refuge (churches) would mean they would HAVE to go back to public places, like schools, which would mandate they include everyone, ESPECIALLY sodomites. THIS is the real goal. When the SCOTUS ruled favorably for the scouts, the sodomites pushed them out of public places, so they went to churches, the one place where the sodomites knew they would have a harder time destroying them. Without that refuge, it is open season on the one institution where NAMBLA types have a buffet to choose from. But, the real goal here is to force scouting to do away with every last reference to religion in any way, shape or form. They can’t do that if scouts meetin in churches, so forcing them from churches and back to public places gives THEM the power to write the rules. And they don’t care if scouting fails, so long as there is one less place to teach kids about God and the Bible.

And don’t think for a moment legal challenges aren’t already in the works for religious organizations who might consider writing their own guidelines. The minute this policy is changed (and I DO think it will be changed, if not this year, soon) you will see parents yanking their kids out of scouting in droves and churches will toss them out before the ink is dry on the signature. The few churches who dare try to stay the course will be hit with lawsuits galore and, since they can’t afford a crack legal team, they will abandon it altogether. At that point the libtards and sodomites will cry and wail about how the “bigots” are gone, but they really won’t care because they will have succeeded in their primary goal - removing the “religion” part of the equation.


19 posted on 01/29/2013 2:05:48 PM PST by Littlejon
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To: Morgana

So sad. I can envision the new merit badges that the queers, freaks, and perverts will initiate once they take over ... and it won’t be just joining, it will be to take over. I would suggest that everyone pull their children from the Scouts and find a church based organization for them...especially one that meets within a church, that has a conservative politically incorrect preacher, and one where the church members fondly recount the memories of progressives struck dead merely crossing the threshold of the church.


20 posted on 01/29/2013 2:06:18 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
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To: Littlejon

Seen it happen in other Jurisdictions. This is very sad, and you’ve nailed it one hundred percent. Get them out of the Churches - force them back into the schools, then force them to admit girls.

That will be the very next step. Wait and see. Make ‘gender inclusivity’, especially among the leadership, a requirement in order to operate.


21 posted on 01/29/2013 2:09:48 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Help!
Oh my gosh! How hysterical! LOLOL!!!

I met 3 DAR ladies once. They were VERY aware of just "who they were".

22 posted on 01/29/2013 2:13:23 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Morgana

Announcing the beginning of the Tiger Scouts.

Wilderness survival camping, learning to hunt and field dress a deer, hand to hand martial arts combat, how to build a log cabin, fix a car, bandage wounds, milk goats, and throw an axe accurately to hit a liberal fagbot in the forehead from thirty paces.

“Wee doan need no steekeeng mehreet batchges...”


23 posted on 01/29/2013 2:13:34 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: steve86

Dunno if the guy is Moslem but Abdalla is probably derived from Abdullah or abd Allah, meaning “slave of Allah.”

It is mangled enough that the family might no longer be Moslem.


24 posted on 01/29/2013 2:16:47 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Persevero
10 Sure, individual units can do this and that. And boys move and transfer and don’t know what the situation is each time. I guess the onus is on them to find out, rather than trust they won’t be asked to go camping with people who find them sexually attractive.

I encourage all not to abandon ship, just yet. Wait a little longer to see how the dust settles. The backlash may well create a schism just like what happened to the Girl Scouts recently. The 1st rule of thumb for protection is to not let your son join a pack/troop chartered to 1 of the following churches, i.e., they have chosen to go down the path of the "world" = inclusiveness/diversity/social justice/apostasy ...

1. TEC = The Episcopal Church
2. ELCA = Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
3. PCUSA = Presbyterian Church in the USA
4. UCC = United Church of Christ
5. DoC = Disciples of Christ/ The Christian Church
6. Moravian Church
7. U/U = Universalist-Unitarian
8. Cooperative Baptist Fellowship
9. Alliance of Baptists

10. UMC = United Methodist Church. They are approaching a schism over the issue of homosexuality. Many fine UMC parishes out there, but you need to check closely. If you see/hear signs of the church pushing "social justice", brush the dust off your feet and don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Also, there are big events like Camp O Ree and stuff, everyone goes. You could have a flamer’s patrol at mess with you, at events with you, sharing the latrine with you. . . how appealing. ... Not to mention that added allure for homosexual adults to get involved with the Scouts, now, as more willing sex partners are easier to find. Good grief. This nation has lost its mind.

Yes, the next problem is when your son's unit participates in joint/district/council/national/international scouting events. Be mindful of this, but let's not cross this bridge yet - we may not have to.

25 posted on 01/29/2013 2:43:02 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: Morgana

Guess the BSA will go the way of the do-do


26 posted on 01/29/2013 3:30:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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“We pretty much just follow whatever the policies are of the national organization, whatever votes they have at the different councils,”

We are just a bunch of mind numb robots.


27 posted on 01/29/2013 3:33:39 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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Guess the BSA will go the way of the do-do

I think the BSA just stepped in some doo doo.

28 posted on 01/29/2013 3:35:38 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Morgana

The new BSA will become the Brown-shirted SA to fulfill Obama’s dream of the National Civilian Security Force he so desires!


29 posted on 01/30/2013 3:14:47 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You know that premise of The Pink Swastika is about homosexuality being rampant in Hitler’s ranks and that it had a lot to do with the vicious war machine that it became driven by hatred and intolerance.


30 posted on 01/30/2013 3:21:07 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Look at the trend over the past 40 to 50 years of the homosexualization of every aspect of America. Don’t think the Nazis of old haven’t influenced that trend. Just look at my profile page and check out the ‘Nazi’ section.


31 posted on 01/30/2013 3:26:29 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: jsanders2001

Look at the trend over the past 40 to 50 years of the homosexualization of every aspect of America. Don’t think the Nazis of old haven’t influenced that trend? Just look at my profile page and check out the ‘Nazi’ section.


32 posted on 01/30/2013 3:26:45 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: left that other site

> Yes. it is Arabic for “servant of allah”.

How fitting.


33 posted on 01/30/2013 3:53:02 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: DJ MacWoW

> Liberals

What Can You Say?

I’ve seen thousands of monster movies but I think I would rather take on Alien than that thing. Man that is scareyyyyyyy....


34 posted on 01/30/2013 3:56:45 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Persevero

And now rabid homos can make court cases against individual units who have no money for big lawyers.

It’s vilely abhorrant.


35 posted on 01/30/2013 4:00:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: jsanders2001
Scary is right!
36 posted on 01/30/2013 4:05:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That is what Obozo think!! The new BSA will die so fast, even Round-Up does not work that fast!


37 posted on 01/31/2013 12:49:55 PM PST by Morgana
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