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Cops shoot dogs in front of Pennsylvania high school
NBCNews ^ | Jan 30, 2013 | asani Gittens

Posted on 01/29/2013 10:22:16 PM PST by Daffynition

A dog fight ended with a hail of bullets in a Philadelphia suburb, leaving residents shocked and looking for answers.

The incident started on Friday at around noon when a stray dog got into a pickup truck at a red light in Chester, Pa., and began fighting with another pooch, NBCPhiladelphia.com reported.

[cell-phone video at source]

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TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: banglist; dogshooting; donutwatch; police
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Didn't Hussein tell us we have to stop the *gun violence*?

Let's start with rogue cops.

1 posted on 01/29/2013 10:22:19 PM PST by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

What most of the obamabots and assorted other leftists don’t realize is that in the State’s view, they’re about as worthless as dogs. Or rather will be.

Welcome to what you voted for, idiots.

/obviously not directed at Freepers...


2 posted on 01/29/2013 10:33:16 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Daffynition

So, lets put forth an hypotheses ... how would you have handled it?


3 posted on 01/29/2013 10:33:16 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019

Hosing down dogs usually puts an end to most fights.


4 posted on 01/29/2013 10:38:47 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: doc1019

“So, lets put forth an hypotheses ... how would you have handled it?”
_____________________________________________

Who knows what really happened, but one thing that I do know
is that the cops are no longer the good old cop on the beat of 25 years ago.
They are now morphing into jack booted thugs.


5 posted on 01/29/2013 10:39:26 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Jonty30

And every cop has access to a hose ... yes, I understand. And while the police hunt for said hose the carnage continues.


6 posted on 01/29/2013 10:41:17 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019
hit them with tazers or pepper sparay and rope em

the police are not supposed to be professional cowards . These cops are total pussies

7 posted on 01/29/2013 10:42:34 PM PST by KTM rider ( American at heart..... Rebel by force)
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To: doc1019

Dogs are dogs. You pull on the back legs of the one on top and stand ready to fend it off if it turns on you.
But they rarely do.


8 posted on 01/29/2013 10:44:30 PM PST by MarMema
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To: KTM rider

Love to see you walk a mile in their shoes, just a mile.


9 posted on 01/29/2013 10:50:04 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019
I was at a custom car show and two dogs got into it, A CHP cop came out of the CHP recruitment booth, hit the dogs in the face with pepper spray and the fight was over . This cop was not a pussie like the ones who opened fire like scared little sissies.

I do not have to walk in their shoes, I have broke up several dog fights with the aforementioned leg pull. If they bite sock them on top of the nose and its game over.

. the chance of getting a little bloody in a non-fatal fight is never my priority, making peace is . I cant even imagine drawing a gun on a dog And I am not even getting paid for it

10 posted on 01/29/2013 11:12:43 PM PST by KTM rider ( American at heart..... Rebel by force)
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To: Daffynition

When are we going to enact sensible cop-control legislation?


11 posted on 01/30/2013 12:22:01 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: AlexW
They are now morphing into jack booted thugs.

We have a retired sgt who was known for having killed upwards of 30 dogs in the 1980's.
Since I've been a police officer we've killed 1 dog in 8 years, however I've killed a few injured cats and loads of possums etc.
Cops have always been killing dogs, cats, ground hogs, possums, etc. it's not a new thing.
12 posted on 01/30/2013 12:22:29 AM PST by brent13a
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To: brent13a

“Cops have always been killing dogs, cats, ground hogs, possums, etc. it’s not a new thing.”
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Killing animals is not my main point, even though I never saw police shoot a domestic animal.
Even in small towns, they are not at all as they were in the past.
I was in the radio communications business.
I worked with many rural and small town police and sheriff’s departments.
I saw a considerable change over a 25 year period.
It was most noticeable in smaller town bedroom communities
that were fast growing and hiring many young new bucks who wanted to show their power.


13 posted on 01/30/2013 12:51:44 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Daffynition

Whatever happened to the cans of mace they used to carry for such things?


14 posted on 01/30/2013 3:36:52 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Jonty30

“Hosing down dogs usually puts an end to most fights.”

Only works if you mean hosing them down with a Tommy Gun. Filthy animals.


15 posted on 01/30/2013 3:47:47 AM PST by KingLudd
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To: AlexW

“I do know is that the cops are no longer the good old cop on the beat of 25 years ago. They are now morphing into jack booted thugs.”

That is becoming more evident every day.


16 posted on 01/30/2013 4:04:14 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: AlexW

“I do know is that the cops are no longer the good old cop on the beat of 25 years ago. They are now morphing into jack booted thugs.”

That is becoming more evident every day.


17 posted on 01/30/2013 4:04:40 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Daffynition

And all this in a “gun-free” zone.

Must be practice for when the humans get out of line.


18 posted on 01/30/2013 4:14:27 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Jeff Winston
  When are we going to enact sensible cop-control legislation?

  That cracks me up - and it makes sense! We need sensible Obama control too - and we actually have it in Article II, Section 4.
19 posted on 01/30/2013 4:14:54 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: exit82
Must be practice for when the humans get out of line.

It is. It also keeps the proles just a little nervous about the police.

20 posted on 01/30/2013 4:25:20 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: doc1019

Sorry, we were w/out power last night.

I would have walked away, cleared the area, until animal control came....that’s *supposing* I was a cop. I would have made an attempt to find the truck owner, by tracing the tag number.

We’ll never know what happened as this event *under investigation.*


21 posted on 01/30/2013 4:54:52 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition
I don't understand shooting the dogs. Maybe one but not both. Is this how they handle a fight and deal out justice???

What danger were they to human life??? And they shot them in the vehicle??? They couldn't determine that one of those dogs had the right to be in the vehicle and was just defending himself from the aggressor??? and the aggressor was [duh] a pit bull. Shoot the one and the fight is over.

All those badges there and they couldn't figure that out. These are morons wearing a badge -- and they have guns???

22 posted on 01/30/2013 4:56:02 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

The report doesn’t say if the dogs were in the truck bed....but it sounds as if they were contained in the cab; the video doesn’t show dogs running around. By blowing out the window of the truck, a dog could escape and then be a danger to the public....not to mention the ricocheting bullets off metal truck.


23 posted on 01/30/2013 5:06:04 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

So that’s where cadet Tackleberry ended up.

Cmndt. Eric Lassard: What is the most frustrating thing about police work?
Tackleberry: Not being able to carry hand grenades, sir.


24 posted on 01/30/2013 5:22:19 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: brent13a

Where I work we have a problem with pit bulls. Thugs get them, breed them, fight them, train them to be aggressive and then, when they don’t want them anymore they simply let them run wild. I once saw a guy walking his pit bull down the street and he had tied a cinder block around it’s neck.

You get the picture.

I’ve seen these same pit bulls rip people’s flesh to shreds. Kids faces so torn up they had to be life flighted to major hospitals.

I’ve also seen some of our “dog whisperer” police officers get bit. A rottweiler bit one of our guys on the forearm and broke his arm. A rookie that I recently trained tried to latch on to a loose pit bull and it bit him in the thigh.

I’ve seen charging pit bulls get shot in the head with .45’s back off and charge again. I shot a pit bull with 00 buck directly in the side. It rolled over and got back up and came at me again. This was after it had killed another dog.

I also work in a city that laid off the dog catcher claiming they didn’t have the money to pay him while they gave the mayor and is cronies raises.

So, no dog catcher, guess who the city sends to catch the dogs? AND because of union restraints, they wouldn’t even let us use the dog catchers equipment.

While I’m ranting, pepper spray doesn’t always work. Not on humans and not on dogs. I once had to run from 2 rottweilers owned by a drug dealer. I pulled the pepper spray and got both of them in the face. Lucky for me I was also able to pull a door shut behind me because it didn’t slow them down in the least. Pepper spray is just about worthless. In fact, when you spray it you get the effects just as bad as the target your spraying. I don’t even carry it anymore. Junk.

I don’t know how many times I’ve showed up at people’s houses (who have called the police) and don’t want to put their dogs away. “Oh, he doesn’t bite.” Sure. Next thing ya know the dog is on you like a bad rash. A few times I’ve had scratches from teeth that didn’t break the skin. The bottom of my shoe has been latched onto on more than one occasion as well.

Recently I had to shoot a deer that got hit by a car. I waited until no traffic was coming because I didn’t want anybody to be subject to seeing it, knowing the sensitivities.

I used a 12 gauge slug and hit the deer square. I figured that would end it quick, it usually does. The deer jumped straight up and looked like it might jump into the road so I hit it again with buckshot. Well, some woman, in a car that I didn’t even see, saw me shoot the deer the second time. She called and made a complaint.

Are there cops who shoot dogs they shouldn’t? Yep. I’m not going to try and defend or deny that. Do a lot of cops get smeared in the paper when they shoot a dog? Yep, I’ve seen that happen. Do people call the police for dog problems? Yes. Do cities put cops in a bad situation by not hiring dog catchers?

Do I get paid enough to get bit by feral pit bulls or other dogs? Not in my mind. If that makes me some kind of a thug or wuss, so be it. My conscience is clear.

And to those who think they can come and do the job better than me, we’re hiring.


25 posted on 01/30/2013 6:18:32 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Jonty30

Correct. I have 2 Jack Russel male dogs who used to fight occasionally. The only way I could separate them was to drag them outside and fill their mouths and throats up with water from the hose. Too bad the police did not have this option.


26 posted on 01/30/2013 6:40:04 AM PST by Ditter
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To: KingLudd
Filthy animals? All dogs are just pitt bulls? Tommy guns? Like the ones Dick Tracy uses? :)
27 posted on 01/30/2013 6:43:27 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Daffynition

28 posted on 01/30/2013 7:25:24 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Uncle Chip

...and an overabundance of testosterone....and the inability to *think* under pressure. ;(

Our bucolic town had an incident in a shopping plaza w/ a Home Depot; turns out a woman was shoplifting from the HD. The police chased her to a get-away car and fired wildly into it as she made herself scarce. Some of those stray bullets could have had terrible consequences, me included as I frequent that plaza. For shoplifting. Meh.

Nothing but a light reprimand for the cop...who is back patrolling, making our town *safer.*


29 posted on 01/30/2013 10:03:39 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

The one dog who was in that truck bed in the first place had the right to be there and was just defending himself from the other who jumped in to attack him.

If this is an indication of the way the police there handle home invasions, then residents watch out. The police will just shoot everyone on the scene and then sort it out later.


30 posted on 01/30/2013 10:40:57 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Where I work we have a problem with pit bulls. Thugs get them, breed them, fight them, train them to be aggressive and then, when they don’t want them anymore they simply let them run wild. I once saw a guy walking his pit bull down the street and he had tied a cinder block around it’s neck.

You get the picture.

I’ve seen these same pit bulls rip people’s flesh to shreds. Kids faces so torn up they had to be life flighted to major hospitals.

I’ve also seen some of our “dog whisperer” police officers get bit. A rottweiler bit one of our guys on the forearm and broke his arm. A rookie that I recently trained tried to latch on to a loose pit bull and it bit him in the thigh.

I’ve seen charging pit bulls get shot in the head with .45’s back off and charge again. I shot a pit bull with 00 buck directly in the side. It rolled over and got back up and came at me again. This was after it had killed another dog.

I also work in a city that laid off the dog catcher claiming they didn’t have the money to pay him while they gave the mayor and is cronies raises.

So, no dog catcher, guess who the city sends to catch the dogs? AND because of union restraints, they wouldn’t even let us use the dog catchers equipment.

While I’m ranting, pepper spray doesn’t always work. Not on humans and not on dogs. I once had to run from 2 rottweilers owned by a drug dealer. I pulled the pepper spray and got both of them in the face. Lucky for me I was also able to pull a door shut behind me because it didn’t slow them down in the least. Pepper spray is just about worthless. In fact, when you spray it you get the effects just as bad as the target your spraying. I don’t even carry it anymore. Junk.

I don’t know how many times I’ve showed up at people’s houses (who have called the police) and don’t want to put their dogs away. “Oh, he doesn’t bite.” Sure. Next thing ya know the dog is on you like a bad rash. A few times I’ve had scratches from teeth that didn’t break the skin. The bottom of my shoe has been latched onto on more than one occasion as well.

Recently I had to shoot a deer that got hit by a car. I waited until no traffic was coming because I didn’t want anybody to be subject to seeing it, knowing the sensitivities.

I used a 12 gauge slug and hit the deer square. I figured that would end it quick, it usually does. The deer jumped straight up and looked like it might jump into the road so I hit it again with buckshot. Well, some woman, in a car that I didn’t even see, saw me shoot the deer the second time. She called and made a complaint.

Are there cops who shoot dogs they shouldn’t? Yep. I’m not going to try and defend or deny that. Do a lot of cops get smeared in the paper when they shoot a dog? Yep, I’ve seen that happen. Do people call the police for dog problems? Yes. Do cities put cops in a bad situation by not hiring dog catchers?

Do I get paid enough to get bit by feral pit bulls or other dogs? Not in my mind. If that makes me some kind of a thug or wuss, so be it. My conscience is clear.

And to those who think they can come and do the job better than me, we’re hiring.


Correct on all accounts, especially the fact that many places don't have "dog catchers " anymore.
We don't.
So I'm not going to risk myself or someone else getting hurt while I try to diffuse a dog fight in a manner that PETA approves.
I'm not a dog catcher. I'm a police officer.
I'm not even sure that telling people to "walk in our shoes" or "get a job" at the PD is adequate.....I would like them to get a job at their city as the dog catcher or animal control. Then they can save all the dogs they want.
31 posted on 01/30/2013 12:30:02 PM PST by brent13a
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To: MarMema
Dogs are dogs. You pull on the back legs of the one on top

Tried this. Doesn't work. Pepper spray on the snout does work. Takes about 20 seconds to work.

32 posted on 01/30/2013 7:39:52 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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33 posted on 01/30/2013 7:42:38 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: doc1019
So, lets put forth an hypotheses ... how would you have handled it?

Who were the dogs hurting? Each other, so why not let them fight until they got tired of it and stopped. Both dogs would be alive and the cops wouldn't have looked like a bunch of gun happy dildos.

35 posted on 01/30/2013 7:59:26 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Uncle Chip
and the aggressor was [duh] a pit bull.

I couldn't find this in the article but I might have just missed it. Would you please post a link that corroborates this claim with a positive ID?

Thanks in advance.

36 posted on 01/30/2013 8:02:20 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker
"Freeman told NBCNews.com that the bigger, more aggressive dog seemed to be a pit bull and had a leash, but the other smaller dog didn't."
37 posted on 01/30/2013 8:10:23 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Oh thanks.

I saw that but was looking for a real ID not a douche bag cop trying to justify killing two dogs by a school for no reason.

Every time a cop shoots a poodle they report that it seemed to be a pit bull so they don't look like cowardly pussies.

Thanks anyway.

38 posted on 01/30/2013 8:27:37 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: KingLudd

“Only works if you mean hosing them down with a Tommy Gun. Filthy animals.”

Well, if I had my choice between my dogs and tyrant king, I would choose my dogs every day and would back it up with necessary force, if you comprende, comrade?


39 posted on 01/30/2013 8:52:40 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: ought-six

It would be interesting to know the ages of all these cowardice cops..


40 posted on 01/30/2013 8:53:47 PM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

About a year ago, in the middle of winter I had a loud banging on my front door and could hear yelling that it was police ans bright flashlight shining down the hallway. The three dogs (average 70 lbs) were going crazy and running to the door. I yelled out to wait till I get dressed. I was in my undies asleep and had grabbed my Mossy 12 Ga with 3-inch 00 buck. I got an overcoat, put my Kahr MK40 in the left pocket and had the 12 Ga in my right hand under my coat without arm in sleeve. I got all dogs in the bedroom and closed the door. The cop started off aggressive and then seemed to calm down. I had my left hand on the MK40 aimed at him in my pocket. The problem was a car stuck in the snow in front of my house. He could have run the plates to know ir was not mine, but he chose to be in a situation that he alarmed me, and my dogs, and if he had made even a slight movement toward his gun he would be getting a face full of 00 buck. These thugs need to think what they would do if places were switched. They are not “SPECIAL” they work for us at our expense.


41 posted on 01/30/2013 9:32:05 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: MtnClimber

I should have added that this aggressive action happened at about 4:00 a.m. over a car stuck in the snow on the road that was not mine.


42 posted on 01/30/2013 9:43:59 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: Eaker
Every time a cop shoots a poodle they report that it seemed to be a pit bull so they don't look like cowardly pussies.

Yep. Four legs and a tail, it's a pitbull. Especially if it is already dead - then it absolutely was a pitbull.

43 posted on 01/30/2013 11:33:43 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MtnClimber

Glad your dogs were ok.


44 posted on 01/30/2013 11:35:38 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Eaker

Someone really needs to make a dog chart with most of the dog breeds identified as “pitbull” in line with the Journalist’s Guide to Firearms that is posted here.

Some folks here who would never trust a journalist’s identification of a firearm are far too quick to trust the same journalist when the word “pitbull” is used.


45 posted on 01/31/2013 5:30:48 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Cap'n Crunch

“Where I work we have a problem with pit bulls. Thugs get them, breed them, fight them, train them to be aggressive and then, when they don’t want them anymore they simply let them run wild. I once saw a guy walking his pit bull down the street and he had tied a cinder block around it’s neck.”

No, you have a problem with thugs.

It’s the thugs who are making bad breeding decisions.

It’s the thugs who fight them.

It’s the thugs who train them to be aggressive.

It’s the thugs who dump them when they are unwanted.


46 posted on 01/31/2013 5:35:17 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Eaker

The person IDing was the filming witness, not a cop.


47 posted on 01/31/2013 6:49:30 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch

Good for you.

Sometimes these cops overreact. But sometimes there’s not much better choice. This story is unclear. I’m laughing a bit at the idea that all these bullets would ricochet. It can happen, but 300 years ago armor was dropped as pointless on soldiers because musket fire went right through. Close range, likely you just get holes in your car.


48 posted on 01/31/2013 6:53:15 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Doesn’t make my post less true.


49 posted on 01/31/2013 6:54:10 AM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker; Daffynition

Some police have their manhood very much tied together with their control issues. When a situation arises where control is not easily achievable, they feel it’s takes their manhood away. Which is right when they feel a need for tbeir 9mm manhood to take its place.

If you have any POs as friends, observe how when they get tense or in an argument they don’t wave their hands around. Their hands drop to their sides as if adjusting their rig and reassuring themselves by the sidearm’s weight, even if it’s not there. No matter what the challenge is. Seeing them do this when it’s their kid complaining about washing the dishes is pretty revealing.


50 posted on 01/31/2013 7:39:27 AM PST by fattigermaster
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