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For 40 Years, This Russian Family Was Cut Off From All Human Contact, Unaware of World War II
smithsonian magazine ^ | Mike Dash

Posted on 01/29/2013 10:34:01 PM PST by GodfearingTexan

"beside a stream there was a dwelling. Blackened by time and rain, the hut was piled up on all sides with taiga rubbish—bark, poles, planks. If it hadn't been for a window the size of my backpack pocket, it would have been hard to believe that people lived there. But they did, no doubt about it.... Our arrival had been noticed, as we could see."

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1 posted on 01/29/2013 10:34:12 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: GodfearingTexan

Old Believers are a kind of Amish.
Most fled Russia after communist takeover, thus they were persecuted much earlier.
Most of them are living in South America, Australia, United States and kept their lifestyles.


2 posted on 01/29/2013 10:50:17 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: GodfearingTexan

So what we have people like that in the hills of WV. LOL


3 posted on 01/29/2013 10:53:07 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GodfearingTexan

I have read other stories of Christians who fled into the Russian wilderness to escape persecution but none like this.


4 posted on 01/29/2013 11:00:59 PM PST by fso301
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To: GodfearingTexan

wow. Interesting article. Thank you


5 posted on 01/29/2013 11:03:27 PM PST by marsh2
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To: GodfearingTexan

That was a truly amazing tale of man’s unconquerable and enduring spirit. Thank you so much for posting this.


6 posted on 01/29/2013 11:05:16 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: GodfearingTexan
True survivalists. . with a Christian core. . escaping communist persecution. . and we're supposed to give up our guns.
7 posted on 01/29/2013 11:20:27 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: GodfearingTexan

bfl


8 posted on 01/29/2013 11:30:07 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: GodfearingTexan

Thank you for the wonderful post. BTTT.


9 posted on 01/29/2013 11:43:11 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: GodfearingTexan

Awesome story!


10 posted on 01/29/2013 11:53:57 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: GodfearingTexan

Great story!


11 posted on 01/30/2013 12:21:57 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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To: GodfearingTexan

Bookmark


12 posted on 01/30/2013 1:00:11 AM PST by The SISU kid (I think they taste like Barbie dolls smell.)
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To: GodfearingTexan

remarkable


13 posted on 01/30/2013 1:09:29 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: GodfearingTexan

Bm


14 posted on 01/30/2013 1:30:36 AM PST by JZoback
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To: GodfearingTexan

Beverly HillsBillskyas? Think of how much easier their lives would have been with an AR-7. Damned Schumer.


15 posted on 01/30/2013 1:46:30 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: GodfearingTexan

Amazing


16 posted on 01/30/2013 1:53:42 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: GodfearingTexan

In my opinion this is a story about how a manic delusion led a family into decades of isolation and deprivation. Sad.


17 posted on 01/30/2013 1:56:57 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods
In my opinion this is a story about how a manic delusion led a family into decades of isolation and deprivation. Sad.

How true that is.

A manic delusion called 'Communism' caused the death by shooting of Lykov's brother. He and his family escaped into the Siberian wilderness to avoid becoming some more of Stalin's statistics in the Great Terror.

I would have used the words 'evil' and 'tyrannical', but yes; Communism is also sad in its grinding destruction of human lives.

18 posted on 01/30/2013 3:00:30 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Kartographer

Ping.


19 posted on 01/30/2013 3:31:41 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GodfearingTexan
How did they ever survive without Government "assistance."
20 posted on 01/30/2013 3:41:25 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: muir_redwoods

yeah sure they guy was “delusional..” Try rereading the story. The guy saw his brother shot by the Communists for simply being a believer in God. Communism has killed more innocent people than all other ideologies combined who refused to comply with Communist tyranny.
Nice try at taking a shot at religion, but those who have actually studied history know full well their fears were very real. It’s more tragic that people had to resort to such measures because their government refused to treat them as human beings.


21 posted on 01/30/2013 3:52:18 AM PST by Axamari
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To: GodfearingTexan

Bump for later.


22 posted on 01/30/2013 4:05:32 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Axamari

Religion? Try learning a bit of history. The Old Believers split from the Orthodox church in a dispute about the spelling of Jesus’s name and the position of the fingers during the sign of the cross. Its a sect as squirlly as Heavens Gate. Many people suffered through communism without returning to the stone age.The old man and his wife were crazy and they raised a brood of kids in the Neolithic.


23 posted on 01/30/2013 4:07:28 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: GodfearingTexan
Lacking guns and even bows, they could hunt only by digging traps or pursuing prey across the mountains until the animals collapsed from exhaustion. Dmitry built up astonishing endurance, and could hunt barefoot in winter, sometimes returning to the hut after several days, having slept in the open in 40 degrees of frost, a young elk across his shoulders.
OK. Remind me never to complain about anything in my life again.
24 posted on 01/30/2013 4:07:36 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: GodfearingTexan

bfl


25 posted on 01/30/2013 4:19:31 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: GodfearingTexan
This is a great story. The book "Lost in the Taiga" came out in 1994, with the whole story, of which the Smithsonian article provides but a brief overview. It is an inspiring story of survival based on tenacious faith.

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Taiga-Fifty-Year-Religious-Wilderness/dp/0385472099/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359547466&sr=1-1&keywords=lost+in+the+taiga

In fact, one wonders how many thousands of other people did the same, but were never discovered or were not as successful at survival! Considering that Stalin murdered maybe 30,000,000 people, this can be considered a miracle and needs to be read in that light (not dwelling on how "different" the people are, as if that were the point.)

26 posted on 01/30/2013 4:21:26 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Rather interesting glimpse of what people are capable of, and how soft we all are today.


27 posted on 01/30/2013 4:27:04 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Remind me never to complain about anything in my life again.

It is incredible isn't it?

28 posted on 01/30/2013 4:28:15 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: GodfearingTexan

Riveting.

Thanks.


29 posted on 01/30/2013 4:33:24 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: GodfearingTexan

The television part confuses me - did they really have TV towers out there at camp?


30 posted on 01/30/2013 4:39:23 AM PST by BobL
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To: wildandcrazyrussian; GodfearingTexan

Thank you so much. It is hard to think of a more thought provoking, and poignant story.

May God share his strength and guidance.
Tatt


31 posted on 01/30/2013 4:52:18 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: GodfearingTexan

Preppers should read this who thing bugging out will be like an extended camping trip. The man did what he thought he needed to for his family to survive the progressives that took over. He could have stayed and fought and been less than a footnote in history.


32 posted on 01/30/2013 4:52:44 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: GodfearingTexan

I felt like going to a place like that on 7 November 2012.


33 posted on 01/30/2013 5:15:13 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ping.


34 posted on 01/30/2013 5:32:46 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GodfearingTexan

A most interesting post, one I shall remember for many a year. We are the products of what we allow into our minds, and because of their self imposed exile, the Lykov family kept themselves filled with the love of Christ.

Amazing how quickly three of the children succumbed after the outside world invaded their privacy. They say the children died of kidney failure due to their harsh diet, yet I wonder if in fact the kidney failure was brought upon them by the introduction of new fluids that they consumed which their system had never been exposed to before.

After all, they had the purest of water at their disposal for 40 years. So I find it difficult to believe they all of a sudden died from the harshness of their living conditions after meeting the outside world.

Thanks again for bringing this to our attention. As I said, I shall remember this family, and this post for many years.


35 posted on 01/30/2013 6:07:21 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: muir_redwoods

The soviet purges touched every family in the USSR. Many families ceased to exist, shot by the authorities, many others died in the cold snows of Siberia cutting and hauling logs to build their camps as they were simply dropped off in the middle of the Taiga in high winter with little in the way of tools or food.

The latest number of the people who were killed by Communism (from Chinese studies oddly enough, very recently)is 147,000,000 souls and most of them were Russian. Socialism is the worst scourge to ever be visited upon humanity.

This is what a real state-sponsored SHTF scenario looks like.

I am struck by the father’s inability to make a bow and arrow or a spear. In our information laden society nearly everyone has a pretty good idea how to begin to build weapons and trial and error would eventually lead you to success.

Put your sons and grandsons in the Boy Scouts. Many of the the techniques needed to survive a SHTF are taught in that organization.

Read Solzhinitson’s books on the purges. It was hell on earth.


36 posted on 01/30/2013 7:12:09 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: buffaloguy
The latest number of the people who were killed by Communism (from Chinese studies oddly enough, very recently)is 147,000,000 souls and most of them were Russian.

Probably more Ukrainians than Russians.

37 posted on 01/30/2013 7:14:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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“Probably more Ukrainians than Russians.”

IIRC, about a third of the Russian deaths were Ukrainian. The Ukrainian starvation is just better documented in popular literature.

Russians were the majority.


38 posted on 01/30/2013 7:41:42 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: agere_contra

Well stated.


39 posted on 01/30/2013 7:48:01 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: mylife
So what we have people like that in the hills of WV. LOL

I spent my youth in urban Cleveland and Detroit. Shortly after graduating from college, I was sent on a business trip to a coal mine in a remote part of Kentucky. I was shocked to find exactly what you are talking about.

40 posted on 01/30/2013 7:57:49 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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Bump.


41 posted on 01/30/2013 8:03:49 AM PST by azishot (When your life is on the line, lead is worth more than gold.)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

Rummel puts the number for the USSR at ~60 million, FWIW. I know many were killed after Stalin’s time, but think it quite likely that as many as 2/3rds were in his era.


42 posted on 01/30/2013 9:53:02 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: GodfearingTexan
Riveting. Preppers take note and don't forget...


43 posted on 01/31/2013 4:24:22 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: muir_redwoods; agere_contra
In my opinion this is a story about how a manic delusion led a family into decades of isolation and deprivation.

You may call it extreme but they survived. How many others didn't? Such was the Red Terror.

44 posted on 02/02/2013 10:33:32 AM PST by fso301
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To: muir_redwoods
Religion? Try learning a bit of history. The Old Believers split from the Orthodox church in a dispute about the spelling of Jesus’s name and the position of the fingers during the sign of the cross. Its a sect as squirlly as Heavens Gate.

Try not revising it either. The article says the family fled into the wilderness to escape the Red Terror.

Many people suffered through communism without returning to the stone age.

Tens of millions didn't.

The old man and his wife were crazy and they raised a brood of kids in the Neolithic.

How can you call someone crazy that survived for over 40 years under conditions you, or I wouldn't last a season in?

45 posted on 02/02/2013 10:41:31 AM PST by fso301
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To: buffaloguy
I am struck by the father’s inability to make a bow and arrow or a spear. In our information laden society nearly everyone has a pretty good idea how to begin to build weapons and trial and error would eventually lead you to success.

This was Russia in the first half of the 20th century. The Lykov's were probably of peasant stock which meant they had limited education and probably knew little to nothing of stone knapping. We in America on the other hand have some knowledge of stone knapping due to Indians being a stone age people right up until the dawn of the 20th century.

46 posted on 02/02/2013 10:51:17 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

If you admire the choice this asshat made, more power to you. Old Believers are some of the craziest loons in the realm of religion; not much different from scientologists in terms of connection to reality. His behavior of moving into the woods of Siberia is perfectly consistent with his hundred year old grudge about 900 lbs of potatoes someone failed to donate to his church. This is a story about a profoundly mentally ill man and his equally ill family.


47 posted on 02/02/2013 10:51:59 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: dfwgator; buffaloguy
Probably more Ukrainians than Russians.

The Red Terror didn't fully descend upon the Ukraine until the 1930's. The first reports I recall reading of cannibalism were circa 1920 from farther east in the Volga region.

48 posted on 02/02/2013 10:57:49 AM PST by fso301
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To: muir_redwoods
If you admire the choice this asshat made, more power to you.

Do you also call Japanese holdouts from WWII asshats?

Old Believers are some of the craziest loons in the realm of religion; not much different from scientologists in terms of connection to reality. His behavior of moving into the woods of Siberia is perfectly consistent with his hundred year old grudge about 900 lbs of potatoes someone failed to donate to his church. This is a story about a profoundly mentally ill man and his equally ill family.

You are correct, when the communist patrol came, a more "rational" person could have claimed to be an atheist... a loyal red and told the communists where some Christians were and thereby increased his odds of living.

49 posted on 02/02/2013 11:15:24 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

The Japanese hideouts are adequately described as asshats

Why am I not the least surprised that you are unable to imagine a reasonable middleground between an insane return to the Neolithic and a complete suck-up to the communists; you know, the way 99% of Russians got by without losing either their souls or their minds? You are free to admire the insane if you choose.


50 posted on 02/02/2013 12:59:40 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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