Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

'Father of the Prius' Declares Electric Cars 'Not Viable'
Breitbart Big Government ^ | February 4, 2013 | Wynton Hall

Posted on 02/04/2013 2:10:43 PM PST by PJ-Comix

Hybrid car pioneer and “father of the Prius” Takeshi Uchiyamada says the billions poured into developing battery electric vehicles have ultimately been in vain. "Because of its shortcomings--driving range, cost and recharging time--the electric vehicle is not a viable replacement for most conventional cars," said Uchiyamada. "We need something entirely new."

Uchiyamada’s comments come as the U.S. Department of Energy announced Thursday that the government is backing off President Barack Obama’s promise to put one million electric cars on American roads by 2015. As Breitbart News reported last September, there are just 30,000 electric cars on American roads.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: agw; agwfraud; automakers; electriccars; greenenergy; greenfraud; hybrid; obama; prius; thegreenlie; uchiyamada
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-67 next last
To: PJ-Comix

They do make for a nice, toasty (albeit expensive) fire.

21 posted on 02/04/2013 2:55:31 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PJ-Comix; smoothsailing

Yeah, but the Prius isn’t an electric; it’s a hybrid. As is the Lohner that smoothsailing posted.


22 posted on 02/04/2013 3:02:40 PM PST by Vroomfondel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gorush

Cool engine.

Seems to have more than a few potential stress points that may fail.

I think the near future, using existing technology, is Nat GAS. It works. If Auto Makers get behind a “Passenger car” version, you’ll be able to swap out a tank (just like your gas grill).

Demand vs. Supply, the chicken and egg paradox of building the vehicle before having the proper filling stations.


23 posted on 02/04/2013 3:03:19 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: miss marmelstein
Ya gotta respect a man who admits defeat!

That is something a Narcissist will never do.

24 posted on 02/04/2013 3:03:42 PM PST by TYVets
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: PJ-Comix

This should have been very clear from the beginning. Battery technology is not even near what it needs to be to be cost effective. The best technology I’ve read about involved carbon fiber fly wheels to store energy but the federal government snapped that up and it is now used almost exclusively in satellites. There is still some fly wheel usage being considered by car manufacturers but primarily as a kinetic energy recovery mechanism. The beauty of flywheels is that they can “charge” spin up in a fraction of the time that a battery can charge and they can also store as much as 10 times the energy of a typical chemical battery using a fraction of the space. The only other near term option is fuel cell tech which appears to have floundered. Most green technology involving cars sadly at this point is more of a scam than anything of real import. There are very few situations where a gasline powered vehicle can not be more economically and ecologically friendly than an equivalent “green” vehicle.

http://powerpulse.net/story.php?storyID=15286

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-20068342-48.html


25 posted on 02/04/2013 3:05:03 PM PST by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Vroomfondel

What happened to the turbin car? That was supposed to be the next big thing...several decades ago.


26 posted on 02/04/2013 3:05:52 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: PJ-Comix

Too bad batteries don’t have their own Gordon E. Moore to make the rulz about them.


27 posted on 02/04/2013 3:06:14 PM PST by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Maelstorm

Formula One cars use some type of “kinetic energy” recovery system.

I’d be curious about your thoughts and if you can tell us how they work and for what purpose.


28 posted on 02/04/2013 3:10:09 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Zeneta
,,,, you’ll be able to swap out a tank (just like your gas grill).

The tank on most gas grills holds 4 gallons of L P Gas.

29 posted on 02/04/2013 3:10:16 PM PST by TYVets
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: TYVets

,,, you’ll be able to swap out a tank (just like your gas grill).

...........The tank on most gas grills holds 4 gallons of L P Gas...........

Back to “full service” filling stations.


30 posted on 02/04/2013 3:12:13 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: RFEngineer
I interviewed for a job at Booz Allen in the 70's.

It didn't go well when I told them that the electric car stuff they were working on for the gov't just wasn't ready for prime time except for a few special situations.

Political Laws are no match for the Laws of Physics.

31 posted on 02/04/2013 3:12:42 PM PST by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Zeneta

There were a number of propane cars running around in Canada ~20-30 years ago.


32 posted on 02/04/2013 3:16:19 PM PST by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

“Political Laws are no match for the Laws of Physics. “

But the laws of Federal Subsidies often defies what the Laws of Physics dictates.....at least for a while.


33 posted on 02/04/2013 3:19:01 PM PST by RFEngineer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: miss marmelstein

“Ya gotta respect a man who admits defeat!”

He means the electric battery only car is not viable.

His own invention is the gas-electric battery hybrid. And I judge that to be highly successful.

Hardly a defeat. Toyota dominates hybrid sales to a high degree. The technology is well proven.


34 posted on 02/04/2013 3:20:44 PM PST by truth_seeker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Zeneta

Next year KERS will offer a 160 hp boost but still only for 6-7 seconds. Real different engineering goals than a street vehicle.


35 posted on 02/04/2013 3:22:01 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Vroomfondel; PJ-Comix
Yeah, but the Prius isn’t an electric; it’s a hybrid.

Ah, the hybrid car!

Dubai firm envisions horse-powered hybrid


36 posted on 02/04/2013 3:24:22 PM PST by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: smoothsailing

That’s funny !!!

Now if they could just get the horse to eat its own exhaust.


37 posted on 02/04/2013 3:27:10 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: PJ-Comix
We need them batteries they use in the Dream liner!http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57567423/787-dreamliner-batteries-called-an-unreasonable-risk-as-passenger-flight-cargo/
38 posted on 02/04/2013 3:28:59 PM PST by jaz.357 (Welcome to hell. Here's your accordion.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: steve86

Thanks,

I am curious if that HP boost needs to be used immediately or is it stored energy?


39 posted on 02/04/2013 3:31:23 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: PJ-Comix

the Chevy Volt is a great car,
except it costs too much for what it is


40 posted on 02/04/2013 3:41:25 PM PST by RockyTx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-67 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson