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Strict Gun Laws in Chicago Canít Stem Fatal Shots
NewYorkTimes ^ | January 29, 2013 | MONICA DAVEY

Posted on 02/04/2013 11:13:20 PM PST by RC one

CHICAGO — Not a single gun shop can be found in this city because they are outlawed. Handguns were banned in Chicago for decades, too, until 2010, when the United States Supreme Court ruled that was going too far, leading city leaders to settle for restrictions some describe as the closest they could get legally to a ban without a ban. Despite a continuing legal fight, Illinois remains the only state in the nation with no provision to let private citizens carry guns in public.

And yet Chicago, a city with no civilian gun ranges and bans on both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, finds itself laboring to stem a flood of gun violence that contributed to more than 500 homicides last year and at least 40 killings already in 2013, including a fatal shooting of a 15-year-old girl on Tuesday.

Lately, the police say they are discovering far more guns on the streets of Chicago than in the nation’s two more populous cities, Los Angeles and New York. They seized 7,400 guns here in crimes or unpermitted uses last year (compared with 3,285 in New York City), and have confiscated 574 guns just since Jan. 1 — 124 of them last week alone.

“Our gun strategy is only as strong as it is comprehensive, and it is constantly being undermined by events and occurrences happening outside the city — gun shows in surrounding counties, weak gun laws in neighboring states like Indiana and the inability to track purchasing,” Mr. Emanuel said. “This must change.”

“Chicago is not an island,” said David Spielfogel, senior adviser to Mr. Emanuel. “We’re only as strong as the weakest gun law in surrounding states.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
So, despite a ban on both assault rifles and high capacity magazines, Chicago is the second deadliest city in the country and it's all Indiana's fault for having weak gun laws. Funny how Indianapolis isn't even in the top 30 deadliest cities in America. Why is that I wonder. Could it be that Chicago's murder problem has less to do with Indiana policies and more to do with Illinois policies?
1 posted on 02/04/2013 11:13:26 PM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

I would wager that most of the murders there are committed with handguns.


2 posted on 02/04/2013 11:26:37 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: RC one

To put it very bluntly Chicago’s problem is the people who live in Chicago. People from other states do not go to Chicago to kill people, rob, or rape. Home grown Chicago folks do that for themselves. Now that they can not control their own they have to have someone else to blame.
If you deducted the black on black shootings form the total of gun violence in our nation the yearly total would drop by more than half. Blacks make up 13% of our population but are responsible for more than half of the shooting every year, and they are shooting other blacks. That means that most of those killed by guns in this country every year are also black. Why is it that no one wants to look at the truth. If you can not start with the truth you will never find the real answer.
The truth is that we do not have a gun problem, we have a problem with young black male criminals with guns who shoot each other. It may not be PC but it is the truth.


3 posted on 02/04/2013 11:38:28 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: RC one

The first few comments confirm my view that liberals live in cloud cuckoo land. All the opinions are expressed as imperatives. I love this one, “Call in the National Guard.” Armed with what? KNIVES ??? Surely not the hated GUNS !!!!


4 posted on 02/04/2013 11:46:59 PM PST by dr_lew
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If you then subtracted the Hispanic on Hispanic and Hispanic on Black murders, Chicago would be one of the safest cities in the country. Interestingly enough, the FBI considers hispanic crimes to be white crimes when they publish their crime statistics so we have to rely on state and local data bases to know just how much Hispanics contribute to the annual national homicide rate.

Even more suspicious is that the FBI makes no attempt to publish data on illegal immigrants and the contribution they make to crime in America.

It is certainly safe to assume that illegal aliens kill WAY more people than assault rifles every year but the FBI won't publish the data to prove it. for some reason.

5 posted on 02/04/2013 11:52:23 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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Illinois needs to fund, build, and staff more prisons. that would solve their crime problem but they can’t do it because they have a union/pension/budget problem underlying their crime problems. They can’t afford to deal with their crime problem so they blame everyone else rather than address those underlying problems. True Blue.


6 posted on 02/04/2013 11:59:26 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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Here is interesting website I ran across earlier tonight

http://www.heyjackass.com/

It is crime statistics in Chicago.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 12:02:16 AM PST by Nailbiter
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“Our gun strategy is only as strong as it is comprehensive, and it is constantly being undermined by events and occurrences happening outside the city — gun shows in surrounding counties, weak gun laws in neighboring states like Indiana...

Some things are too obvious for liberals to see them. For example, why do the surrounding counties and neighboring states have a lower murder rate than Chicago? It couldn't possibly be Chicago's idiotic laws, could it?

Turn a city into a gun-free zone and be surprised when only criminals have and use guns.

It's a liberal doctrine that outlawing guns reduces crime. Never mind that it's never happened anywhere.

When gun control laws result in more murders, it's someone else's fault. Chicago blames Indiana. New York blames Virginia.

Never mind that the states with the highest gun possession rates have the lowest rates of murder and other crimes.

8 posted on 02/05/2013 12:02:21 AM PST by Steve1789 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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Earth to NYT and Chicago Tribune (and Mayor Rahm and other assorted politicians and morons): FLASH!!! Criminals do NOT obey the law. That's why we call them criminals. However, this isn't about crime — it's about criminalizing and disarming people who are victimized by criminals. Donkey politicians and the Left are despicable scumbags.
9 posted on 02/05/2013 3:30:06 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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When gun are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

One of the most accurate statements ever made.

The problem in chicago is easy to recognise, just look at where those people are killed, and who lives there.

It is the same in every large city.

Dtay as far away from Martin Luther King Avenue as possible.
Thet is MLK’s Lagacy.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 5:04:31 AM PST by Venturer
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Back when X-42 signed the first AW ban, there was a raid on a drug hideout in Chicago. The news showed the guns confiscated there and most were not over 10 shot magazine handguns.

Most of the guns were single shot top break HR single barrel sawed off shotguns.

So much for the “evil” assault rifle.


11 posted on 02/05/2013 7:46:07 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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Chicago is in the midst of a black vs. Latino gang war and these are drug turf fights for the most part. Of the 514 KIA’s. 5 were Asian, 47 were white, 313 were black, and the rest 149 were Latinos. We know where the problem areas are, but Rahm and the Chicago pols don’t care. This year’s [2013] body count is on its way to 600.


12 posted on 02/05/2013 11:19:04 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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