Skip to comments.Neanderthals Died Out Earlier Than Thought
Posted on 02/05/2013 1:16:36 PM PST by Pharmboy
The last Neanderthals had passed by southern Iberia quite earlier than previously thought.
Neanderthals may have died out earlier than before thought, researchers say.
These findings hint that Neanderthals did not coexist with modern humans as long as previously suggested, investigators added.
Modern humans once shared the planet with now-departed human lineages, including the Neanderthals, our closest known extinct relatives. However, there has been heated debate over just how much time and interaction, or interbreeding, Neanderthals had with modern humans.
To help solve the mystery, an international team of researchers investigated 215 bones previously excavated from 11 sites in southern Iberia, in an area known as Spain today. Neanderthals entered Europe before modern humans did, and prior research had suggested the last of the Neanderthals held out in southern Iberia until about 35,000 years ago, potentially sharing the region with modern humans for thousands of years.
Their data suggest that modern humans and Neanderthals may have actually lived in the area at completely different times, never crossing paths there at all. Even so, these findings do not call into question whether modern humans and Neanderthals once had sex the findings simply indicate this interbreeding must have occurred earlier, before modern humans entered Europe.
"The genetic evidence for interbreeding 1 to 4 percent Neanderthal DNA in present-day modern humans suggests that interbreeding probably occurred before the period we are looking at in the Levant, the region around Israel and Syria, when modern humans first migrated out of Africa," researcher Rachel Wood, an archaeologist and radiocarbon specialist at Australian National University in Canberra, told LiveScience.
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Considering what some modern women look like, I bet Neanderthal women still got nailed by Cro-Magnon men on occasion.
Realistically, if young Neanderthal women looked like her, then they were no worse looking than what many guys bring home from the bar at closing time.
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The young Eleanor Clift.
Men have been known to copulate with chickens, geese, goats, cattle, horses, walruses, and each other. Not to mention ugly women.
Of course they raped the Neanderthal ladies if they caught them. How could it be otherwise?
And here I though they died out because the Neanderthal used single use plastic bags at the grocery store, and drove SUVs.
That is one disturbing post. That’s just baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
We didn’t get to where we are by being nice guys...oh yeah, we bad (not me, but as a species). ;-)
Nonsense - see them on GEICO commercials all the time.....
Problem was there was no beer to give them an excuse .....
I was surprised to read that Asians have a higher percent of Neanderthal DNA than do Europeans.
A big Scot is sitting in a bar, ranting as he downs his pints. He pounds his hand on the bar, says "You see this bar? I built this bar with me own two hands, a finer piece of work you'll newver find, but do they call me MacGregor the bar-builder? No!!" and he downs his pint and buys another.
He points out the window. "See that dock in the lake? I built that dock with me own hands, a finer piece of work you'll newver find, but do they call me MacGregor the dock-builder? No!!" and downs his pint.
He next pointed out the chair and table in the corner, the fence outside, all sorts of similar projects, and says "I built that with me own two hands, a finer piece of work you'll newver find, but do call me MacGregor the handyman? No!!"
He stares into his beer, whispers, "But you F*** one sheep."
Ok, so they used carbon dating on the bones to determine their age (as well as other techniques).
...and prior research had suggested the last of the Neanderthals held out in southern Iberia until about 35,000 years ago...
OK, So the results of this carbon dating of bones was over 35,000 years. But is carbon dating accurate that far back? I mean 35,000 years is about 7 half-lifes for the c14 isotope? Can we trust that what little is left is not just contamination?
Indeed. Essentially the only ones with 3.5 - 4% Neanderthal genes are Asians. Euros average 2.5% or so, and max out at 3.2% or thereabouts.
The examples you give are disorders of late and decadent civilizations, not primitive men.
Love that pic.
Always reminds me of Mrs. Lurkin’s side of the family.
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Thanks Pharmboy.Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.The Neandertal Enigma"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
Not true - there are several living in the White House at this very moment.