Skip to comments.Support Growing For Former L.A. Officer Accused Of Killing Spree ("Dorner for President")
Posted on 02/09/2013 10:28:26 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Not surprised. Joe Friday does not work for LAPD anymore.
What’s weird is his anti-gun stance...If the LAPD is as bad as he says it is, to me that would be all the reason more that ordinary citizens need to be armed.
I haven’t watched him in a long time.
There ya go, that's the gist of it.
Start listing the supporters...
Paula Clay, Californis
None of the holes look like they come out.
The .45 holes have huge cones, while the .223 holes have very small cones, and the .223 holes didn’t peel any paint due to their higher velocity.
The more they learn he is a leftist, the more the support will grow...
Did not know Dorner was black until now
A guy can be a political moron because of racial hatred, or indoctrination, and still be tactically and strategically clever in combat/insurgency.
Maybe something is wrong with much of the community it serves.
THANK YOU. I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me. Some looked convex, while some looked concave. Haven’t shot-up any car sheetmetal, lately; I’m a slacker.
>> “ He could have used the internet to get his story spread far and wide and someone would have been interested enough to investigate his claims.” <<
That is what a normal, logical individual might do, but he is not a normal individual; he is living in paranoid fear, and is incapable of logic or trust.
Like this one...
Paula Clay, California
We LOVE YOU! Dorner you are the “Downest Hommie” I ever had! A true Gangster! Ride!! Dorner! Ride! We Love You Fo Lyfe!
about an hour ago
Neither have I; I quit watching FOX several years ago.
The are plenty of over the top cops and departments out in the suburbs.
A sick, lib ex-cop and even sicker lib supporters. What more can you ask for?
I can’t help but wonder if some copycat(s) will show up and start “helping” him with his list. There is no shortage of nutcases in LA.
Arguably, the most over-the-top cops and departments are out in the suburbs. It’s universal, I think.
Prague cops aren’t so bad. Even the Czech Federal cops who operate in Prague are pretty decent.
Get into some of the areas and satellite cities around Prague or other metropolitan areas, and the attitude changes big-time. Why that is, I have no idea, but some of the suburban-based cops can be major power-tripping a******s.
Do you live in Los Angeles? Do you know anyone who works for the LAPD? I've lived in LA all my life and I have a close relative who worked at the 77th precinct (which is in the heart of South Central) before he started working undercover and the crap he had to put with from the denizens of South Central is beyond belief. Most LAPD officers exercise almost superhuman restraint in working in that environment. And the absolute bullshit I am reading on this board about how there is an institutional problem with the LAPD is sickening.
Of all the institutions in Los Angeles, the only instutitions that have attempted to maintain some semblance of professionalism are the Fire Dept and the LAPD. Everything else in the city has gone to pot, but the LAPD is still able to maintain relative order in a city with a citizen to officer ratio that is more than double what you find in cities like Chicago or Los Angeles. In LA, there are about 450 citizens to every police officer while in cities like Chicago and New York it is more like 220 citizens to every officer. Plus LA is spread out over a much larger area, so a lesser number of officers have to patrol a much greater area of terriorty.
On a final note, if the good citizens of South Central are upset with the LAPD, then the problem lies with the citizens and not with the LAPD. And if you don't believe me, I volunteer to take you on a tour of South Central. I go thru South Central several times a week. We can make it a walking tour and walk down Broadway or visit areas like the corner of Florence and Normandie or, better yet, we can stroll thru Nickerson Gardens and you can experience first hand what the LAPD does on a daily basis. I think an experience like that my change your perspective on who needs to re-examine how they are living their lives.
The comparison may be unfair, but I'm not sure which of them is wronged by the comparison.
That’s what I’m saying. This monster who kills innocent people isn’t Jesse James fighting against the evil corporate railroad(/sarc). This guy is pure evil crazy, and people are just gah-gah over him. Unreal.
Christopher needs a song.
Why are you surprised???
The same people who voted for Obama support Dorner.
He is black, he hates “The Man”. He is one of them.
I am not surprised at all.
What we are seeing is a rise in despotism. The culmination of that will result in a nation run much like North Korea, Cuba, etc. where government wields absolute authority. When the nation turns its back on God, historically, the result is ALWAYS the same.
I know of several supervisors who carefully follow company rules, but are abusive towards those under their authority. Very poor management style, but not illegal. This sort of thing is making a lot of people angry -- resulting in support for someone like Dorner who alleges he was mistreated, etc. and is striking back.
I’m afraid this may be coming to a town near you.
It’s a pretty sure bet that millions of us will, in the medium turn, find ourselves as the enemy of our betters.
And they will come for you, and shoot your dog and possibly your wife and kids. (it has happened before in Idaho)
And you will be portrayed by the media as being a crazy and a terrorist.
And your countrymen will turn on you also...
I don’t know what this man’s beef with the “state” was. Your only going to hear what they tell you, and frankly I haven’t been paying that much attention. But it sounds like he had somewhat legitimate complaints about his masters and got no where.
But be careful. There could be millions of enemies of the state in the next few years. For instance those who cling to their Gods and their guns.
Dohrn - Vice President
The struggling officer's ultimate undoing began on the morning of July 28, when he and Evans were dispatched to a report of a man who had refused to leave a local hotel.
Evans criticized Dorner harshly in an evaluation report that included a long list of areas in which he needed improvement, including using common sense and good judgment. About the same time, Dorner ...claimed he had witnessed Evans kick the man while he was being handcuffed.
The department's internal affairs unit launched a probe into Dorner's allegations. Three hotel employees who witnessed much of the incident said they never saw Evans kick the man. And when the man arrived at the police station, he did not mention being kicked in the face... Investigators concluded there was no truth to Dorner's claim.
The witnesses' statements and Dorner's delay in coming forward 'irreparably destroy Dorner's credibility,' the department concluded in disciplinary records. Dorner was charged with making false statements and a false personnel complaint.
The discipline board found that Dorner had lied about the incident and fired him...On the day Christopher Dorner was fired from the Los Angeles Police Department, officials took the unusual step of summoning armed guards to stand watch at his disciplinary hearing downtown.
Most of the major media seem to be reporting on what is in the idiot's manifesto and NOT what the LAPD record says about Dorner. One LAPD trainer called Dorner a "problem child."
A large percentage of those who most hate the LAPD would be best related to by a massive B-52 "Arclight" mission.
In Dorner’s world, the LAPD is armed to the teeth, and the people are defenseless against them.
And in our demented world, this makes perfect sense to many people.
I’m pretty sure that, even Jeffrey Dhammer had people supporting him. After all, he was a victim of society too.
This concept deserves deep attention. I personally feel that we, as a society, have been well-fed the idea that we have inherent guilt and that we will lose everything and be forever undeserving unless we allow ourselves to be pushed to the back of the bus to pay for our sins. I believe it is such a pervasive and deep brainwashing that we would go as far as self-destruction to cleanse ourselves.
I feel that there is a deeply held, if unconscious belief that the only way for us to be cleansed and become ‘worthy’ is to be forgiven by those who we've been taught have been deeply hurt by us. The idea is that if we make ourselves as vulnerable as possible, and lose everything, those who resent us will come to love us, and we won't ever have to speak for ourselves, because they will know when the time is right for us to be loved again.
The problem is that there is nothing that we can or will ever do that will lead those who resent us to ‘forgive’ us and tell us it's okay to do well and live well again.
I know this sounds somewhat crazy, but I strongly believe that this type of thinking does have a profound effect on our nation. I also think that some of this type of thinking was ‘programmed’ as planned by those from the outside and from within who wanted to reshape our nation and permanently change the American character and landscape.
If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for the law: it invites every man to become a law unto himself, it invites anarchy.
---US Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis.
Let me add that I think fedgov is the driving force behind most of it. When austerity hits for real and fedgov is forced to shrink, I think all of that will be thrown in to a cocked hat. The 5M white votes that Obama lost between 2008 and 2012 are the first glimmers.
MSM reporting on this incident is extremely (and deliberately) shallow. I'm afraid this guy could end up becoming nothing less than a 21st century Gavrilo Princip.
Dorner is a liar and fraud who should have washed out of the LAPD during training.
Chief Beck said the department conducted a thorough investigation of the incident which led to Dorner's firing and found that Dorner had lied:
That case was thoroughly adjudicated, it was reviewed at multiple levels, it went to the ultimate form of review in the LAPD, a board of rights, where a two-command officer and a civilian representative hear the entirety of the case, as represented by an attorney, and make a judgment.
Here is part of the LAPD's side:
An officer in Dorner's class who asked not to be identified because he is not authorized to discuss the case, recalled Dorner as 'one of our problem children' who frequently pushed the bounds of authority.
A few days into training, the recruits were explicitly told to only wear white or black shoes for a conditioning run, the officer said. Dorner, however, showed up in bright neon sneakers. 'He thought he knew it all, that rules just kind of didn't apply to him,' the officer said. 'He was not a team player.'
According to the officer, Dorner was kicked out of his academy class at least one time, when he accidentally shot himself in the hand. Internal disciplinary records show that Dorner was suspended for two days for an accidental discharge in 2005.
Yet Dorner was given pass after pass. One guess why.
LAPD has just gone to tactical alert due to “major incident in the city.”
LAPD police scanner: http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=3711
I know this sounds somewhat crazy, but I strongly believe that this type of thinking does have a profound effect on our nation. I also think that some of this type of thinking was programmed as planned by those from the outside and from within who wanted to reshape our nation and permanently change the American character and landscape.
No, it doesn't sound crazy at all.
Additionally, this agitation to produce dissatisfaction and revolution is standard Marxist strategy, used everywhere with racial division and ALL other areas of potential division.
The common goal is the justification of the taking from one group by the "oppressed" group, and the delivery of power to the Marxists to accomplish the "reparations" (redistribution).
And the "oppressed" get only poverty and death in the end, the inner circle Marxists take it all.
Isn’t the motto of the LAPD “To Protect and Serve”?
Hey Jackass Jesse Jackson, who said he felt Dorner’s pain, do you know the the two people he gunned down were your people?
>>>Christopher needs a song.<<<
Arthur Brown’s “Fire” (1968)
The people in the SUV didn’t speak english. WTF.
Cops used their ammo quota for the day. What fools.
Does anyone know WHY he was fired back in ‘08? Cops don’t just get fired without several rounds of hearings and investigations.
I imagine there were several other cops fired around that time in LA and elsewhere who haven’t gone on a shooting rampage. I don’t see anything that would justify his cold blooded murders.
Well that's what Dorner says.
That was the Honda Ridgeline wrong truck shot up. This one, the women say there were no orders, no challenge. just bullets
I’m wondering if we will ever know what really happened. Was he a rogue cop? A good cop trying to root out evil in the department? There sure is something fishy when the cops try to kill two newspaper delivery women without first trying to detain them. Did they think these women were two of him? Are the afraid of him telling his side of the story in court?
Something is really screwy here. I suspect he knows where the bodies are buried and is getting ready to tell all.
This, oddly enough, reminds me of a murder case that was tried in Texas a few years ago. The perp was a woman who'd had a really bad marriage. When she had the chance she deliberately ran over her husband, often enough to kill him. At trial she argued what a horrible man he was. The female prosecutor took all the bark off her by saying the law offered a whole menu of horrible things she could legally do to him and/or have the courts do to him, so she didn't have any legitimate cause at all to go beyond the law and murder him.
The same applies to Dorner, just a whole lot more. He's a visually impressive articulate black man and a former full lieutenant (that rank's equivalent to a captain in the Army, Air Force, and Marines) in the Navy reserve, the very kind of guy who could get a publisher and a team of high powered lawyers, and sell a major expose of the LAPD, even if he didn't have much of a case. Just look at the Duke Rape Case and the Trayvon Martin case for examples of how skillfully playing the race card can make the innocent look guilty. Here, OTOH, if this guy is to be believed, he actually had a good case of abuse and cover up.
That, of course, just makes the frightful things he did all the worse, just as that woman murdering her husband when she had massive legal recourse available was made truly horrible by her failure to use that recourse.