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Support Growing For Former L.A. Officer Accused Of Killing Spree ("Dorner for President")
KMAX-TV ^ | February 8, 2013

Posted on 02/09/2013 10:28:26 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

None other!


51 posted on 02/09/2013 11:46:04 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Clock King

Not surprised. Joe Friday does not work for LAPD anymore.


52 posted on 02/09/2013 11:47:04 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Chuckster

What’s weird is his anti-gun stance...If the LAPD is as bad as he says it is, to me that would be all the reason more that ordinary citizens need to be armed.


53 posted on 02/09/2013 11:48:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: editor-surveyor

I haven’t watched him in a long time.


54 posted on 02/09/2013 11:48:38 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Valpal1
This should surprise no one. It is entirely predictable that a criminal becomes a folk hero when he strikes against a corrupt government rather than the public.

There ya go, that's the gist of it.

55 posted on 02/09/2013 11:54:13 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Start listing the supporters...

Paula Clay, Californis
http://www.facebook.com/paula.clay.37


56 posted on 02/09/2013 11:54:32 AM PST by kcvl
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To: carriage_hill

None of the holes look like they come out.

The .45 holes have huge cones, while the .223 holes have very small cones, and the .223 holes didn’t peel any paint due to their higher velocity.


57 posted on 02/09/2013 11:54:56 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Clock King
We all know how this will end for Dorner, but I'm surprised by the support for him.

The more they learn he is a leftist, the more the support will grow...

58 posted on 02/09/2013 11:56:46 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did not know Dorner was black until now


59 posted on 02/09/2013 11:56:56 AM PST by GSWarrior (To activate this tagline contact the Admin Moderator.)
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To: dfwgator
What’s weird is his anti-gun stance...If the LAPD is as bad as he says it is, to me that would be all the reason more that ordinary citizens need to be armed.

A guy can be a political moron because of racial hatred, or indoctrination, and still be tactically and strategically clever in combat/insurgency.

60 posted on 02/09/2013 12:00:09 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Clock King
This episode should really make the LAPD examine its relationship to the community it serves because something is clearly wrong.

Maybe something is wrong with much of the community it serves.

61 posted on 02/09/2013 12:01:52 PM PST by umgud
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To: editor-surveyor

THANK YOU. I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me. Some looked convex, while some looked concave. Haven’t shot-up any car sheetmetal, lately; I’m a slacker.
:^)


62 posted on 02/09/2013 12:02:25 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: Tammy8

>> “ He could have used the internet to get his story spread far and wide and someone would have been interested enough to investigate his claims.” <<

.
That is what a normal, logical individual might do, but he is not a normal individual; he is living in paranoid fear, and is incapable of logic or trust.


63 posted on 02/09/2013 12:06:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: umgud

Like this one...

Paula Clay, California

We LOVE YOU! Dorner you are the “Downest Hommie” I ever had! A true Gangster! Ride!! Dorner! Ride! We Love You Fo Lyfe!
about an hour ago


64 posted on 02/09/2013 12:06:25 PM PST by kcvl
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Neither have I; I quit watching FOX several years ago.


65 posted on 02/09/2013 12:07:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: umgud
Maybe something is wrong with much of the community it serves.

BINGO!

66 posted on 02/09/2013 12:08:32 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: cripplecreek

The are plenty of over the top cops and departments out in the suburbs.


67 posted on 02/09/2013 12:11:29 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year old…school is now illegal…”cuz it’s yuckey and dumb".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A sick, lib ex-cop and even sicker lib supporters. What more can you ask for?


68 posted on 02/09/2013 12:13:31 PM PST by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: Valpal1

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=monica+quan&FORM=HDRSC2


69 posted on 02/09/2013 12:18:41 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t help but wonder if some copycat(s) will show up and start “helping” him with his list. There is no shortage of nutcases in LA.


70 posted on 02/09/2013 12:19:14 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Arguably, the most over-the-top cops and departments are out in the suburbs. It’s universal, I think.

Prague cops aren’t so bad. Even the Czech Federal cops who operate in Prague are pretty decent.

Get into some of the areas and satellite cities around Prague or other metropolitan areas, and the attitude changes big-time. Why that is, I have no idea, but some of the suburban-based cops can be major power-tripping a******s.


71 posted on 02/09/2013 12:22:42 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Clock King
This episode should really make the LAPD examine its relationship to the community it serves because something is clearly wrong.

Do you live in Los Angeles? Do you know anyone who works for the LAPD? I've lived in LA all my life and I have a close relative who worked at the 77th precinct (which is in the heart of South Central) before he started working undercover and the crap he had to put with from the denizens of South Central is beyond belief. Most LAPD officers exercise almost superhuman restraint in working in that environment. And the absolute bullshit I am reading on this board about how there is an institutional problem with the LAPD is sickening.

Of all the institutions in Los Angeles, the only instutitions that have attempted to maintain some semblance of professionalism are the Fire Dept and the LAPD. Everything else in the city has gone to pot, but the LAPD is still able to maintain relative order in a city with a citizen to officer ratio that is more than double what you find in cities like Chicago or Los Angeles. In LA, there are about 450 citizens to every police officer while in cities like Chicago and New York it is more like 220 citizens to every officer. Plus LA is spread out over a much larger area, so a lesser number of officers have to patrol a much greater area of terriorty.

On a final note, if the good citizens of South Central are upset with the LAPD, then the problem lies with the citizens and not with the LAPD. And if you don't believe me, I volunteer to take you on a tour of South Central. I go thru South Central several times a week. We can make it a walking tour and walk down Broadway or visit areas like the corner of Florence and Normandie or, better yet, we can stroll thru Nickerson Gardens and you can experience first hand what the LAPD does on a daily basis. I think an experience like that my change your perspective on who needs to re-examine how they are living their lives.

72 posted on 02/09/2013 12:25:52 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Yes, "Ted Baxter" is Freeperese for Bill O'Reilly.

The comparison may be unfair, but I'm not sure which of them is wronged by the comparison.

73 posted on 02/09/2013 12:28:05 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

That’s what I’m saying. This monster who kills innocent people isn’t Jesse James fighting against the evil corporate railroad(/sarc). This guy is pure evil crazy, and people are just gah-gah over him. Unreal.


74 posted on 02/09/2013 12:29:03 PM PST by Clock King
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Christopher needs a song.


75 posted on 02/09/2013 12:33:25 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: Clock King

Why are you surprised???

The same people who voted for Obama support Dorner.

He is black, he hates “The Man”. He is one of them.

I am not surprised at all.


76 posted on 02/09/2013 12:36:37 PM PST by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It seems that those in authority in government, business, education, etc. need to go back to a value system that causes them to treat people properly. So many have rejected their religious background and therefore have no clue on how to properly treat others.

What we are seeing is a rise in despotism. The culmination of that will result in a nation run much like North Korea, Cuba, etc. where government wields absolute authority. When the nation turns its back on God, historically, the result is ALWAYS the same.

I know of several supervisors who carefully follow company rules, but are abusive towards those under their authority. Very poor management style, but not illegal. This sort of thing is making a lot of people angry -- resulting in support for someone like Dorner who alleges he was mistreated, etc. and is striking back.

77 posted on 02/09/2013 12:39:20 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m afraid this may be coming to a town near you.

It’s a pretty sure bet that millions of us will, in the medium turn, find ourselves as the enemy of our betters.

And they will come for you, and shoot your dog and possibly your wife and kids. (it has happened before in Idaho)

And you will be portrayed by the media as being a crazy and a terrorist.

And your countrymen will turn on you also...

I don’t know what this man’s beef with the “state” was. Your only going to hear what they tell you, and frankly I haven’t been paying that much attention. But it sounds like he had somewhat legitimate complaints about his masters and got no where.

But be careful. There could be millions of enemies of the state in the next few years. For instance those who cling to their Gods and their guns.


78 posted on 02/09/2013 12:46:37 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dorner -President
Dohrn - Vice President


79 posted on 02/09/2013 12:50:48 PM PST by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The following report about Dornan is from the LA Times (of all places!!) and ABC Local LA:

The struggling officer's ultimate undoing began on the morning of July 28, when he and Evans were dispatched to a report of a man who had refused to leave a local hotel.

Evans criticized Dorner harshly in an evaluation report that included a long list of areas in which he needed improvement, including using common sense and good judgment. About the same time, Dorner ...claimed he had witnessed Evans kick the man while he was being handcuffed.

The department's internal affairs unit launched a probe into Dorner's allegations. Three hotel employees who witnessed much of the incident said they never saw Evans kick the man. And when the man arrived at the police station, he did not mention being kicked in the face... Investigators concluded there was no truth to Dorner's claim.

The witnesses' statements and Dorner's delay in coming forward 'irreparably destroy Dorner's credibility,' the department concluded in disciplinary records. Dorner was charged with making false statements and a false personnel complaint.

The discipline board found that Dorner had lied about the incident and fired him...On the day Christopher Dorner was fired from the Los Angeles Police Department, officials took the unusual step of summoning armed guards to stand watch at his disciplinary hearing downtown.

Most of the major media seem to be reporting on what is in the idiot's manifesto and NOT what the LAPD record says about Dorner. One LAPD trainer called Dorner a "problem child."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-dorner-profile-20130207,0,3013535.story?page=1&track=lanowpicks

80 posted on 02/09/2013 12:52:38 PM PST by Bon of Babble (I have seen the future and I'm going back to bed!!)
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To: Clock King
One theme that keeps popping up is a common hatred for the LAPD. This episode should really make the LAPD examine its relationship to the community it serves because something is clearly wrong.

A large percentage of those who most hate the LAPD would be best related to by a massive B-52 "Arclight" mission.

81 posted on 02/09/2013 12:53:36 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In Dorner’s world, the LAPD is armed to the teeth, and the people are defenseless against them.

And in our demented world, this makes perfect sense to many people.


82 posted on 02/09/2013 12:53:50 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m pretty sure that, even Jeffrey Dhammer had people supporting him. After all, he was a victim of society too.


83 posted on 02/09/2013 12:53:54 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: I want the USA back
“Didn’t we absolve our White Guilt by electing 0?”

This concept deserves deep attention. I personally feel that we, as a society, have been well-fed the idea that we have inherent guilt and that we will lose everything and be forever undeserving unless we allow ourselves to be pushed to the back of the bus to pay for our sins. I believe it is such a pervasive and deep brainwashing that we would go as far as self-destruction to cleanse ourselves.

I feel that there is a deeply held, if unconscious belief that the only way for us to be cleansed and become ‘worthy’ is to be forgiven by those who we've been taught have been deeply hurt by us. The idea is that if we make ourselves as vulnerable as possible, and lose everything, those who resent us will come to love us, and we won't ever have to speak for ourselves, because they will know when the time is right for us to be loved again.

The problem is that there is nothing that we can or will ever do that will lead those who resent us to ‘forgive’ us and tell us it's okay to do well and live well again.

I know this sounds somewhat crazy, but I strongly believe that this type of thinking does have a profound effect on our nation. I also think that some of this type of thinking was ‘programmed’ as planned by those from the outside and from within who wanted to reshape our nation and permanently change the American character and landscape.

84 posted on 02/09/2013 12:57:29 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Valpal1
Well worth repeating and spot on!

“If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for the law: it invites every man to become a law unto himself, it invites anarchy.”

---US Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis.

85 posted on 02/09/2013 1:00:36 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Well said!

Let me add that I think fedgov is the driving force behind most of it. When austerity hits for real and fedgov is forced to shrink, I think all of that will be thrown in to a cocked hat. The 5M white votes that Obama lost between 2008 and 2012 are the first glimmers.

86 posted on 02/09/2013 1:08:45 PM PST by Ken H
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To: babygene
I’m afraid this may be coming to a town near you.

MSM reporting on this incident is extremely (and deliberately) shallow. I'm afraid this guy could end up becoming nothing less than a 21st century Gavrilo Princip.

87 posted on 02/09/2013 1:10:13 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: vbmoneyspender
You have written a great response, the best on the thread IMAO. The LAPD has to put up with horrific conditions in certain parts of LA and have been under a microscope since Rodney King and the Rampart Scandal.

Dorner is a liar and fraud who should have washed out of the LAPD during training.

Chief Beck said the department conducted a thorough investigation of the incident which led to Dorner's firing and found that Dorner had lied:

That case was thoroughly adjudicated, it was reviewed at multiple levels, it went to the ultimate form of review in the LAPD, a board of rights, where a two-command officer and a civilian representative hear the entirety of the case, as represented by an attorney, and make a judgment.

Here is part of the LAPD's side:

An officer in Dorner's class who asked not to be identified because he is not authorized to discuss the case, recalled Dorner as 'one of our problem children' who frequently pushed the bounds of authority.

A few days into training, the recruits were explicitly told to only wear white or black shoes for a conditioning run, the officer said. Dorner, however, showed up in bright neon sneakers. 'He thought he knew it all, that rules just kind of didn't apply to him,' the officer said. 'He was not a team player.'

According to the officer, Dorner was kicked out of his academy class at least one time, when he accidentally shot himself in the hand. Internal disciplinary records show that Dorner was suspended for two days for an accidental discharge in 2005.

Yet Dorner was given pass after pass. One guess why.

88 posted on 02/09/2013 1:13:08 PM PST by Bon of Babble (I have seen the future and I'm going back to bed!!)
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To: All

LAPD has just gone to tactical alert due to “major incident in the city.”

LAPD police scanner: http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=3711


89 posted on 02/09/2013 1:27:16 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
I agree with your #84 with slight adjustment.

I know this sounds somewhat crazy, but I strongly believe that this type of thinking does have a profound effect on our nation. I also think that some of this type of thinking was ‘programmed’ as planned by those from the outside and from within who wanted to reshape our nation and permanently change the American character and landscape.

No, it doesn't sound crazy at all.

Additionally, this agitation to produce dissatisfaction and revolution is standard Marxist strategy, used everywhere with racial division and ALL other areas of potential division.

The common goal is the justification of the taking from one group by the "oppressed" group, and the delivery of power to the Marxists to accomplish the "reparations" (redistribution).

And the "oppressed" get only poverty and death in the end, the inner circle Marxists take it all.

90 posted on 02/09/2013 1:30:41 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t the motto of the LAPD “To Protect and Serve”?

Hey Jackass Jesse Jackson, who said he felt Dorner’s pain, do you know the the two people he gunned down were your people?


91 posted on 02/09/2013 1:32:22 PM PST by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: cripplecreek

Djust dusthim.


92 posted on 02/09/2013 1:35:14 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: RockyTx

>>>Christopher needs a song.<<<

Arthur Brown’s “Fire” (1968)

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GCSWEgZT94


93 posted on 02/09/2013 1:38:24 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

The people in the SUV didn’t speak english. WTF.


94 posted on 02/09/2013 1:38:46 PM PST by Pit1 (Obama is the bump in the road.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Cops used their ammo quota for the day. What fools.


95 posted on 02/09/2013 1:40:31 PM PST by Pit1 (Obama is the bump in the road.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Does anyone know WHY he was fired back in ‘08? Cops don’t just get fired without several rounds of hearings and investigations.

I imagine there were several other cops fired around that time in LA and elsewhere who haven’t gone on a shooting rampage. I don’t see anything that would justify his cold blooded murders.


96 posted on 02/09/2013 1:42:18 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: cripplecreek
an attorney who lost the case on behalf of the police dept

Well that's what Dorner says.

97 posted on 02/09/2013 1:58:58 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
One shining of a spotlight on the tail gate of this truck and it's clear it's not a NISSAN! The cops are saying this truck pulled away when ordered to stop, but.. Who knows..

That was the Honda Ridgeline wrong truck shot up. This one, the women say there were no orders, no challenge. just bullets

98 posted on 02/09/2013 2:05:25 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m wondering if we will ever know what really happened. Was he a rogue cop? A good cop trying to root out evil in the department? There sure is something fishy when the cops try to kill two newspaper delivery women without first trying to detain them. Did they think these women were two of him? Are the afraid of him telling his side of the story in court?

Something is really screwy here. I suspect he knows where the bodies are buried and is getting ready to tell all.


99 posted on 02/09/2013 2:06:37 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: editor-surveyor
That is what a normal, logical individual might do, but he is not a normal individual; he is living in paranoid fear, and is incapable of logic or trust.

This, oddly enough, reminds me of a murder case that was tried in Texas a few years ago. The perp was a woman who'd had a really bad marriage. When she had the chance she deliberately ran over her husband, often enough to kill him. At trial she argued what a horrible man he was. The female prosecutor took all the bark off her by saying the law offered a whole menu of horrible things she could legally do to him and/or have the courts do to him, so she didn't have any legitimate cause at all to go beyond the law and murder him.

The same applies to Dorner, just a whole lot more. He's a visually impressive articulate black man and a former full lieutenant (that rank's equivalent to a captain in the Army, Air Force, and Marines) in the Navy reserve, the very kind of guy who could get a publisher and a team of high powered lawyers, and sell a major expose of the LAPD, even if he didn't have much of a case. Just look at the Duke Rape Case and the Trayvon Martin case for examples of how skillfully playing the race card can make the innocent look guilty. Here, OTOH, if this guy is to be believed, he actually had a good case of abuse and cover up.

That, of course, just makes the frightful things he did all the worse, just as that woman murdering her husband when she had massive legal recourse available was made truly horrible by her failure to use that recourse.

100 posted on 02/09/2013 2:13:32 PM PST by libstripper
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