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The DEA Wants to Use a $37 Pot Sale to Seize a $1.5 Million Anaheim Building
OCweekly ^ | 02/07/2013 | Nick Schou

Posted on 02/09/2013 10:31:11 AM PST by Rusty0604

In 2009, Deputy Attorney General David Ogden, presumably speaking on behalf of the newly inaugurated Barack Obama, issued the so-called Ogden memo, instructing federal prosecutors to not target medical-marijuana patients..... "Do you intend to carry this all the way through forfeiture?" Guilford asked U.S. Attorney Greg Parham. "Yes, absolutely, your honor," Parham responded. "The only evidence in this case is a $37 purchase of medical marijuana and an anonymous comment on a website that anybody could have written," Pappas says. "For this, they want to take a $1.5 million building."

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: dncrico; dojrico; propertyrights; rico
This is not the first one in CA the FEDS have siezed since the Obama admin. said they wouldn't. Bet they still voted for his reelection.
1 posted on 02/09/2013 10:31:16 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

This is a gross abuse. Violates 8th amendment (at least)


2 posted on 02/09/2013 10:38:02 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: shalom aleichem
This is a gross abuse. Violates 8th amendment (at least)

CONSTITUTION? WE DON'T NEED NO STEENKING CONSTITUTION!


3 posted on 02/09/2013 10:42:51 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: Rusty0604

All things belong to the Emperor.


4 posted on 02/09/2013 10:45:18 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
CONSTITUTION? WE DON'T NEED NO STEENKING CONSTITUTION!

When was the last time a scum sucking slime bag Rat ever paid attention to the Constitution?

5 posted on 02/09/2013 10:48:08 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Rusty0604

It is a very unwise policy to use the criminal law as a “revenue enhancer.” If a government follows such a policy they lose in the eyes of the governed that dispassionate, neutral status so necessary for effective peaceful governance. Those that as of today who are currently in power in the federal government, and in some states, are so stupid and greedy they do not relaize they are setting themselves up for a savage reaction.


6 posted on 02/09/2013 10:51:56 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

This abuse has been going on for quite awhile. There’s a story about a family owned motel that was being seized because some illegal activity had taken place in one of the rented rooms.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 10:54:48 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I think Obama’s hubris is such, that I think someone got in his head to think that he is going to own all of this, and I mean OWN, like he bought it all. The government is going to be his personal stewart and he is looking at owning the world or transfering this to whomever he is prostituted to, be it a foreign leader, government, nation, or even a private party.

He is now moving with landlord like legislation to check if your “whore”-house is Obamacare fit enough with OSHA type compliance controls, Singapore style.


8 posted on 02/09/2013 11:00:54 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

This abuse has been going on for quite awhile. There’s a story about a family owned motel that was being seized because some illegal activity had taken place in one of the rented rooms.


9 posted on 02/09/2013 11:01:38 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Agenda 21 needs someone of such stupid hubris as Obama thinking he owns it. The agenda itself follows such a pattern and has to rely into this kind of mad person. No other sane person would have the “idiot chutzpah” he has.

What is sad is that DC is so sold out to all the foreigners living in DC and applauding Bill Clinton at the UN during impeachment processes, that DC is at war against us in their prostitution to the intimidation this gang of foreign leaders is impressing on us.


10 posted on 02/09/2013 11:03:40 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Rusty0604
not saying i agree with this but, selling pot is against federal law, and the owners of the buildings that rented space prolly thought they were being cute by renting to those breaking said law, play stooopid games, win stooopid prizes...
11 posted on 02/09/2013 11:05:07 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Well said.


12 posted on 02/09/2013 11:08:46 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Rusty0604

An excuse and a distraction. The left hates private property (see the communist manifesto) and uses any means they can think of to seize it
In the USA they don’t call it seizure - someone might remember hearing something like “right of the people .... to be secure .... search and seizure...”
But it’s illegal seizure of private property without just compensation.
Americans don’t want to hear it, but this country has already slid into socialism.


13 posted on 02/09/2013 11:11:49 AM PST by I want the USA back (Only people with their head up their a$$ vote democrat.)
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To: Rusty0604

I always love selective enforcement of the law. Obviously, this building’s owner doesn’t have a huge law firm sitting at his beck and call, therefore an easy target to use forfeiture law to seize the property. I’m sure the feds will seize the convention center next...


14 posted on 02/09/2013 11:14:10 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Chode

Well the owners are a husband and wife; it was retirement investment money. They were being stupid for believing the FEDS saying it would be overlooked. And even though something is against the law I don’t think the property owners should lose everything they have because of something illegal someone else did on their property. The police and FEDS have done this to property owners that didn’t even know someone had done something illegal on their property.


15 posted on 02/09/2013 11:15:07 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
like i said, i don't agree with it but, they knew what was being sold there and should have known better... after all it was a business with a sign, not like it was being sold out of a rented house without their knowledge

anybody that risk their retirement like that, well... i guess i don't know what to say

even if they get to keep the property, they will lose more then the rent was worth in court costs

a hard lesson to learn, never EVER trust the government

16 posted on 02/09/2013 11:24:31 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: shalom aleichem

On several occasions, honest cops have warned that the rules governing seizure of assets in many different kinds of cased, not just drug cases, leads to corruption as officers and departments eye money and property seized as their own. It’s not so surprising in this case.


17 posted on 02/09/2013 11:26:08 AM PST by DPMD
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To: Rusty0604
the husband a computer engineer who holds a government security clearance,

not anymore i bet...

18 posted on 02/09/2013 11:29:19 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I read an article describing why Haiti was poor. It was not that the people were lazy, but that the government acted as a wealth confiscator, which prevented people from accumulating capital OR continuing to work after needs were met.


19 posted on 02/09/2013 11:32:30 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Rusty0604

That is the Caswell Motel and they won in their final round in court, making a nice little precedent for future victims.

The courts are getting mighty skeptical of these takings as the DEA gets greedier and overreaches. They are fueling a backlash.


20 posted on 02/09/2013 11:33:09 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: Rusty0604

Wow. There’s only one thing to do about this.

Legalize all drugs so this never happens again.

/s


21 posted on 02/09/2013 11:34:41 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Rusty0604

DEA is just another out-of-control federal agency under Tyrant Obama.


22 posted on 02/09/2013 11:50:25 AM PST by Rapscallion (Homeland Security is buying millions of bullets - for you. So you can't buy ammo at all.)
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To: kingu
"I always love selective enforcement of the law."

Selective enforcement is one of the characteristics of Tyranny.

23 posted on 02/09/2013 11:58:54 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Rapscallion
DEA is just another out-of-control federal agency under Tyrant Obama.

Oh puh-leeez. The DEA has been an out-of-control Federal agency for decades. It shouldn't have taken Barack Obama to get people to notice that. You don't think these abuses went on under Bush -- or Reagan? Think again.

People demanded a police state and they got a police state. According to folks 'round these parts, it's all fine as long as we have the 2nd Amendment. I guess they'll start shooting people when the DEA comes for their property? That'll end well.

24 posted on 02/09/2013 12:03:23 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Valpal1

Thanks for telling me that they won. Now if some of those people the EPA are going after for having a mud puddle will win their case property rights may still have a chance.


25 posted on 02/09/2013 12:23:56 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

BATF, EPA, DEA = ALL NUTTY, CONSTITUTION-HATING VENGEFUL LIBRARIANS.


26 posted on 02/09/2013 12:32:11 PM PST by gaijin
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Why? They have been using speed Cameras for government revenue enhancement for years now.

When you live in a country ruled by a fascist like Obama you learn to expect anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism


27 posted on 02/09/2013 12:32:58 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Rusty0604

“... Use a $37 Pot Sale to Seize a $1.5 Million Anaheim Building...”

That looks like a good way to make a nice profit. Where do I invest?


28 posted on 02/09/2013 12:45:25 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Mark17
When was the last time a scum sucking slime bag Rat ever paid attention to the Constitution?

When they found the Constitutional right to an abortion.

29 posted on 02/09/2013 12:52:12 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Mark17
When was the last time a scum sucking slime bag Rat ever paid attention to the Constitution?

When they found the Constitutional right to an abortion.

30 posted on 02/09/2013 12:53:22 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: USMCPOP

LOL; us peons can’t ever make a profit like that


31 posted on 02/09/2013 1:07:17 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: FatherofFive

I would say they made up that right, not found it.


32 posted on 02/09/2013 1:11:27 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Seems rather simple...don’t rent to an illegal drug operation.


33 posted on 02/09/2013 1:15:49 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Rusty0604

“LOL; us peons can’t ever make a profit like that”

No chit, especially if you’ve been saving up for retirement all these years. And now this stuff!


34 posted on 02/09/2013 1:28:53 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Venturer
Another gross area is the “Work Zone” signs on the highways. Most states double the fines for violations occurring in the “Work Zones.” Now many states require that there actually be workers in the zone before the doubling of the fines occurs thus demonstrating a desire to protect the workers. However, in California where we are governed by criminals, vice addicts and those who do not even belong to our society workers do not have to be present for the doubling to occur. It is not much of an exaggeration to state that every highway and free way has magically been transmuted into a work zone even though one never sees any workers!

The real question has become "How long are we going to tolerate these vermin in positions of authority?"

35 posted on 02/09/2013 1:41:55 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Rusty0604

I have no doubt. I also note that in some states if the driver of a vehicle has even an ounce of marijuana the police seize the car.


36 posted on 02/09/2013 1:44:07 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: USMCPOP

THanks.


37 posted on 02/09/2013 1:45:14 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: tbw2

As wealth is increasingly seized through taxes, fines and fees I can see such a situation as you describe for Haiti occurring.


38 posted on 02/09/2013 1:46:54 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Rusty0604

If you’re talking about the folks in Idaho, they won against the EPA also.

It’s not all bad news out there.


39 posted on 02/09/2013 2:12:07 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1

You are full of good news today. Thanks!


40 posted on 02/09/2013 2:47:32 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

The “War on Drugs’’ is all about the money. Follow the money. The good guys, the bad guys, ain’t a dimes difference between the two. It’s all about the money.


41 posted on 02/09/2013 3:50:29 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Rusty0604

And people wonder why i eant to end the WOD.


42 posted on 02/09/2013 4:40:43 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: Rusty0604

And people wonder why I want to end the WOD.


43 posted on 02/09/2013 4:41:39 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: Rusty0604

I am against the legalization of pot. That said, I don’t support this behavior.

Our government is making very odd noises about pot legality. The Feds say it’s illegal, but then they don’t enforce, but then they do, then they give people time, then they negotiate, they makes statements like the one listed above about not seizing, then they do, and the states pass various laws, and the Feds say they won’t respect them, but people are smoking openly at concerts and parties and bus stops and no one seems to do anything.

A law must be clear and unambiguous, or it is not just.


44 posted on 02/09/2013 5:48:17 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

crony cannabisism!


45 posted on 02/09/2013 7:27:59 PM PST by Rusty0604
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