Skip to comments.Jonah Mowry: 'Whats goin on..'( School Bullying)
Posted on 02/09/2013 7:29:40 PM PST by wintertime
Jonah Mowry: 'Whats goin on..'( School Bullying)
This is a pitiful video. This child is in genuine pain due to the bullying he has suffered since first grade. He dreads starting eighth grade.
So?...: Some comments and questions:
--- When children are confined and herded together in same age groups with insufficient adult supervision, we should expect bullying. Bullying not an exception given the social situation the children must endure.. ( In many ways, the social pathology seen in institutional schools resembles prison pathology.)
---It is more important for modestly talented white collar workers in the government schools to keep their jobs and feed the educational-industrial complex than it is to really find **HUMANE** schooling models and effective teaching methods.
---There are schools and situations where it would be better for the child to receive **no** education whatsoever than to suffer the abuse they experience in school. Illiteracy and innumeracy can be fixed. Dead can't be. This child is in one of those situations.
---Why are children **forced** by the government to endure abuse that would win an adult court ordered restraining orders, felony charges, and millions in court for workplace harassment?
---Surely the parents know what is going on. This child needs to be rescued. Why have they abandoned him?
---Why should this child trust his parents or those adults in his life who should be rescuing him but have failed to do so?
---Why aren't teachers held to the **same** standards and penalties as employers in the workplace? Why are teachers and principals special and immune from personal court suits and government penalties and fines? Where are the class action attorneys when children need them?
---This child is in tremendous pain. The other children in the class have witnessed this bullying. Are they living in hellish fear that they may be the next victim? Is it good for children to be forced to witness such abuse? I certain don't think so.
---One of the cruelest things to say to a child suffering from bullying it to say, "It is normal or it is good for you." If it isn't good for an adult in the workplace or woman in a marriage, why would we think it is good for a **child**?
My child was asked to be a monitor for bullies at his schoolm. We discouraged that. Also have told our kids to fight back regardless of school policy.
Me too, told mine you have to bully a bully. Say back to them whatever bs they say to you.
You don’t have any friends
No YOU don’t have any friends
We even rehearsed and I showed her the opening scene from miss congeniality
#1, stop acting like a victim.
Adults can get restraining orders. They can press charges with the police, They can sue the perp and the employer for workplace harassment. They can quit and look for other work and move.
Seriously? What can a kid do, other than find and use the defenses prisoners use in prison: Form a protection gang ( clique), or be prepared to bloody the perp.
My child was asked to be a monitor for bullies at his schoolm. We discouraged that.
This school is training up future state informers.
If children attend godless, socialist, and prison-like government schools we shouldn’t be surprised that future citizens act like state prisoners ( which includes those willing to be informers.)
This kid needs to fight back ... kick the living crap out of the kids that bully him. Of course, in our politically correct, liberal government schools individuals are not able to do anything on their own, including protect themselves. Everyone needs to turn to "government authority" for help. He won't get the advice he needs to stand up to bullies and teach them a lesson.
It really doesn't matter if he loses a fights against bullies. At least he is able to say that he stood up to them. And the real outcome is once you stand up to a bully, it is no longer worth the effort for the bully to pick on you if he knows he will be in a fight and will be hurt. There is always some softer, younger target to go after.
It is sad, but that is way it works.
I am speaking from personal experience as I was bullied when I was in Jr. High School ... until one day after gym, in the locker room, the bully (nearly twice my size) punched me as I was tying my shoe on a bench. (A hook right to my chin.) I snapped. I put him in a head lock and commenced destroying his face. A gym teacher heard the commotion and stood watching as I repeated beat him to a pulp. I looked up at the gym teacher and said, "You better stop this, because if I let him up (he was twice my size) he is going to kill me." The gym teacher didn't help. He watched as I continued to beat the crap out of him.
I was sent home that day from school, because my clothes were drenched in blood. The bully was suspended from school for 10 days. I was back at school the next day. Apparently, the gym teacher and the vice principal knew the kid was a bully, and I was certainly not, so I didn't get into any trouble.
When the ex-bully returned to school, his face was still a mess (broken nose, and traces of bruises, cuts, black eyes). By that time, my knuckles were almost completely healed. I remember distinctly rubbing my sore hands in the days after the fight and thinking it hurt so good.
Other students lost their fear of him. I had my own respect and no one messed with me. My own respect was the most important lesson that I learned.
That was in the 70's. Times have certainly changed, but human behavior has not.
It seems like almost everyone has their own excuses for perpetuating dishonesty and inconsistency.
When some jock faggot retard knocks down a stranger on the sidewalk, he could just say, "I was just practicing my football moves."
When the same jock faggot retard sexually assaults or rapes some stranger, he could say, "I was just practicing what we practice in the locker room."
Etc., etc., the list goes on and on. Kids, or some kids, are enouraged to practice behaviors in one setting that are crimes in any other settings, and we wonder why they can't differentiate why in one setting it is appropriate, when in another it is not.
And in all such cases, members of the public at large generally will square off and take sides, according to their own need to perpetuate dishonesty and inconsistency.
Either the behavior is appropriate everywhere, or it is not appropriate anywhere. Retarded kids and retarded adults cannot differentiate like this, and that is why our prisons are over-filled, with people going in and out repeatedly.
There are legal definitions in every state for a wide variety of crimes against persons. If every student, from the very early ages, were taught the precise definitions of these crimes, and the punishments for these crimes, there would be a lot less of these crimes against persons.
There would probably be a lot less "contact sports" also, but that would be the price of legal consistency. There would probably also be a lot less communal showers, restrooms, and such, and that would surely interfere with the objectives of the communal homo agenda.
We are human beings - not animals. We are individuals - not a collective herd of group think animals. We are worthy of love because we are each loved by our Creator. To harm one of us with cruelty, is to harm God’s love.
Before cultural cleansing, we were individuals and we were expected to treat others as we would want to be treated. I was told this many times in school and all children’s groups. We knew the value of every human life and soul and we knew all rights were God given to us and to ‘them’. If they lost their dignity and rights, we would lose our dignity and rights.
Psychopaths existed. But most of us would be ashamed of ourselves for acting like animals - devoid of love, compassion and empathy, when confronted by our thoughtlessness by our own conscience or a peer or adult.
That these parents permit this boy to be abused in the satantic cult we call liberal public schools, year after year, says something about them, too. You are a parent of God’s child. It’s a gift to you. He does not make junk and you are not to handle it like junk. Since the first grade, these parents have cooperated in the abuse of their son.
This person needs to call up the local mixed martial arts trainers.
A. Get training.
B. Gain confidence from the training.
C. Destroy the bullies.
D. Tell the school officials to f-off.
Well, skip D.
Wow! I never considered this point. Excellent insight!
The homo agenda! Indeed! Yes!
By the way, I wonder, of all the people who phoned and e-mailed the Boys Scouts this week, how many of them **WILLINGLY** send their children off to the homosexual dominated government schools?
Don't skip D. Find a group of parents to help you tell the school officials to f-off (in a very nice way) at a school board meeting with the local paper there, and camera phones rolling.
D is the rational response.
A, B, and C are behaviors found among prisoners in prisons.
I don't get this. I suppose you think boys and men should sit down to take a leak in a private cubicle.
Think what it is like for an Abrams tank crew sitting buttoned up for 48+ hours straight. Boys and men taking showers, urinating, and such together is not part of communal homo agenda. It is simply a matter of getting things done.
It amazes me how many girly people continue to make this a topic that deserves parental discussion. The solution to bullying is the same as it’s always been - CONFRONT the person bullying you and prove to them that you’re not going to be their victim. Maybe you’ll get a bloody nose, maybe you’ll give them a bloody nose. The bullying will probably stop when the person being bullied stops cooperating in the “game.”
Grow a pair! And for the parents: you also need to grow a pair.
Schools aren’t much different than prison.
When a women is abused is she told to form a committee, attend a government marriage and domestic relation board, with the local paper and camera phones rolling?
NO! She is advised to GET OUT of the abusive situation, file felony charges with the police, and get a restraining order!
Why do we allow children to remain in a abusive school environment when abused women are **strongly** counseled to flee?
And....When children witness domestic abuse in the home that BIG TIME charges for the felon committing the abuse against his spouse. So?...Why is it OK for children in a classroom to witness abuse when outside the school it is considered severely psychologically damaging?
Finally, why are teachers and principals immune to permitting a harassing school environment, when employers are sued into oblivion? Is this like Animal Farm. The teachers and principals live in the farmer's house, while ordinary employers lose their businesses and saving and get to sleep in the barn?
The kid needs to grow a set.
When you allow yourself to be a victim you become a professional victim.
This kid lacks self esteem.
Probably because we have feminized boys in school and society for the last 40 years.
This kid should bloody the bullys nose, dot his eye.
He may get his ass whipped if he does, but that bully will think twice about revisiting the kid.
Hell! Jonah may just get a round of applause from his classmates for standing up for himself.
Again: ( It can't be stressed enough!)
How we currently school the vast majority of our nation's children threatens our nation's continuing freedom. If we treat children like prisoners in godless, socialist-entitlement, and prison-like schools we should NOT NOT NOT be surprised if we have a nation of future voters who are comfortable being godless and socialist state prisoners.
As people become more and more animalistic and cold of heart, and tribal (herd animals), sadistic bullying becomes more and more of a reality.
Queers are trying to cash in on this natural progression of socialist cultural cleansing by claiming the bullied child is gay and belongs to them - under their tribal protection.
So the bullied child get double abused.
As an adult, when was the last time you gave a person a bloody nose? ( Just wondering.)
Personally, as an adult I have never worked in such an environment. I have never chosen such a social circle.
A lot of fathers/husbands need to grow a pair. Part of that is setting things straight with emotionally impaired wives that have zero understanding how these things work with boys/young men.
Women nurture by instinct. They have their place after a fight occurs. But when it comes to raising a boy to become a man, a father is needed. A mother can help raise a gentleman, as well as fathers. But women lack the natural ability to teach a boy to be a man.
I fear our nation lacks good men to be fathers. There are too many limp-wristed, weak, liberal males that are chronologically men. These are the type of people that are willing to wait for the police to show up when their family's life and property need defending. What happens when our nation needs to be defended?
Queers are trying to cash in on this natural progression of socialist cultural cleansing by claiming the bullied child is gay and belongs to them - under their tribal protection.So the bullied child get double abused.
Until this thread, I had never considered the homosexual angle. Hm? VERY insightful! Double abuse!
I had some punk from the football team ridicule me in the cafeteria at lunchtime when I was a kid.
I bloodied his nose.
He was stunned
I did not get in trouble, and now that SOB is spending life in prison because he married and murdered a classmate.
Stand up! Fight!
We know right and wrong!
Give your children a fighting chance.
Teach them moral absolutes.
I seriously doubt this boy has a father at home or a father figure. Google his name - you’ll see what I’m talking about.
I will give an example from my own childhood.
When my brother was about 6, and 8 year old neighbor boy cornered him and held his little thumb to a cigarette lighter badly blistering it. My older brother who was then about 18 found this thuggish 8 year old and seriously threatened him. After that neither my brother or I ever had any problem with bullying in the neighborhood or in school.
Another time, my older brother, who was then about 13, was selling flowers at the entrance to the elevated train station. He was approached by two homosexuals and teased by them. My uncle ( who owned the greenhouse that supplied the flowers) and another uncle waited for these homosexuals. Again, there was a **serious** but polite talk. These homosexuals were never seen in the neighborhood again.
One final example:
My older brother,( as an adult, father, and husband, )had drug dealers move into his neighborhood. One evening my brother and other men in the neighborhood had a very polite and business-like talk with the dealers. They pointed out the roofs where snipers could easily take aim at the drug dealers. They also mentioned that police won't be very eager to vigorously investigate any “incidents”. The next day, the dealers were permanently gone from the neighborhood.
One of our kids was bullied.
It became a very intense effort on my part and the school started to fight back. I ended up filing a lawsuit that named the principal personally to get his attention.
Schools are way too messed up. Administrators way too incompetent. In a business setting they would have the company facing endless lawsuits.
I agree with you
In a business setting they would have the company facing endless lawsuits.
Why aren’t teachers and principals held to the same standards as other citizens?
Answer: Down on the Animal Farm government union workers live in the Farmer’s House. Private citizens are prosecuted and sued into oblivion and get to sleep in the barn! OINK!
You have a point.
Please read my post #29.
My Pop cracked me up LOL
He was a deep thinker and a staunch conservative, but he would spend all kinds of time trying to engage liberals in intellectual conversation, presumably to see how they ticked and to try to sway them with words
Anyhow, to get back to the point of why he cracked me up is When we were like preteen boys (brothers, cousins, neighbors)
We were always scrapping with each other.
Poor ol Pop got tired of trying to have intellectual discussions on the matter and one day when we were scrapping, he gave us a set of boxing gloves.
He said yall wanna fight? Here ya go.
Knock yerselves out! LOL
He then lit a cigar and watched us wear each other out.
We didnt fight much after that.
Pop Was the Jedi Master LOL
“As an adult, when was the last time you gave a person a bloody nose? ( Just wondering.)
Personally, as an adult I have never worked in such an environment. I have never chosen such a social circle.”
Part of becoming an adult is learning how to handle bullies.
In answer to your question, I learned as I matured how to handle bullies with words rather than actions. Adults tend to be more civilized than youngsters.
I’ve encountered plenty of bullies in the workplace; Fortune 20 company, even some of my bosses - it’s hard to choose them. Perhaps you have better options for choosing.
Is your child a boy or girl? If he was boy, why couldn't/didn't he fight back?
I have two daughters, and they have had their bad experiences. From what I can tell, girls are much worse than boys these days. It is not physical, but it still is bullying. My girls have been taught to stand up and deal with it - just different methods than boys. They do not have problems any longer.
I know schools are way too messed up. But lawsuits cost money. It is much easier to destroy an administrator's reputation publicly. It is called politics in the adult world.
Here is how to do it: Become a Republican committeeman/woman at the county level, or have your spouse do it. Now you have a network of other (hopefully) like minded conservatives in every neighborhood in your school district. Work the network and do not miss any chance to destroy liberal lives.
Exactly so, and this is part of learning social justice.
Those that learn it well will not find themselves in the company of bullies as adults.
I was just saying the other day, that banning games such as "cowboys and indians" robs young boys of this very key learning process.
When I was a kid, if you were captured, there was a trial or tribunal of some kind.
It is difficult to teach kids adult concepts if you expect them to never have adult experiences while you cloister them away from the world.
Oh, and I forgot to mention.
Pop said there were RULES
That took the bullying out of it for the bully.
No sucker punches, no 2 against one, no BS.
When my shy daughter was in kindergarten, another girl kicked her and taunted her. We roll played it at home, and she practiced saying “STOP IT.” It worked. The girl backed off. A few weeks later, the girl invited my daughter to her birthday party.
This year, she is in high school. She is still shy and awkward. But the other day she defended a boy who was being harassed by a mean girl. She had to say it twice to get her message across, but it worked again. In fact, the girl apologized to the boy the next day.
I told my daughter that I was prouder of her than if she had gotten an A on her report card, because she stood up to evil and defended the innocent.
It is hard to tell these days, but my guess is yes or his father lacks his manhood, and by definition is a liberal.
By the way, you recognized the first rule of keep neighborhoods safe and drug free. Sometimes it doesn't even require a talk. My neighborhood is adjacent to an apartment complex that has several less than desirable people. Occasionally, those people walk through the neighborhood. They may be great people, I have no idea, but when I see baggy pants with underwear showing, hoodies and thuggish appearances I get defensive. I saw one of these hood rats walking down the street on day. I stood and starred the thug down as he walked past my house. He gave me a look like I was nuts to even glance in his direction. A little later in the week, the same thug was walking again down the street again, but I was getting ready to go shooting with my daughter and her boyfriend. I saw him from my garage door as I was lubricating my AR. I walked to my side yard with weapon in hand and starred him down again. I haven't seen him since.
I call it keeping the neighborhood clean. BTW, there is no crime in our neighborhood. The men on my block (it may be strange, but everyone is married, and most close to or over twenty years) will not allow it.
And...Imprisoning them in prison-like schools is not the place to learn healthy adult behavior. The place to do that is by watching adults handle the normal conflicts that arise in adult living.
Also...GOOD point about the play. Normal play is now forbidden in government schools.
By the way,....I have never seen bullying on the beach and I specifically look for it because I am curious about its absence. Why?
—Sufficient adult supervision. ( There is water there and plenty of adults watching their kids.)
— When children are tired, hungry, or bored they are completely free to leave any play activity.
—It is interesting to watch the older children mentor the younger child in proper beach etiquette.
— And, the older kids often will spend **hours** teaching younger children games and activities. I remember one day a child of about 10 spending nearly the entire afternoon teaching a younger child to do somersaults. ( No attention deficit among that group of kids.)
The best place to learn this is by watching responsible parents ( and close relatives) do this as part of managing the conflicts that normally arise in living adult lives.
The worst place to learn it is in a prison-like government school where even play ( and important part of childhood where children practice and pretend to be adults) is banned.
Teach your children basic self defense techniques and stop letting the government teach your child to be a “victim!”
If they don't learn to stand up for themselves now, when will they? We always had bullies, but, we took care of the problem, the government did not stick their noses in on behalf of some victim!
slap a bully in the nose once and more than likely, they will not do that to you again!
Screw the government's BS about “telling” that is soooooo much crap!!!! Even a child has the God given right of self defense!
Eight deuce on the loose!!!!
Older kids teaching younger kids is normal.
They are stepping up toward adulthood.
Older kids teaching younger kids is normal.
They are stepping up toward adulthood.
There isn’t much opportunity for that in an age-segregated and prison-like K-12 school.
What I often see in the PC world is so called Adults expecting children to just understand adult situations without ever letting them get their toes wet.
This is just as bad of an idea as letting them run wild.
There is a time for immediate action and a time for pause and there is always the component of reason and justice.
If your kids are good learners, you can give them a wide berth at an early age, But you never stop watching them.
The notion that “YOU ARE 8, and must ACT 8 is foreign to me”
You are 8, so you must hang out with 8 year olds.
At any rate I think most healthy kids yearn to be adults and most healthy adults reminisce over being a child.
This is the human condition
It’s hard to explain.
It must be lived.
“It really doesn’t matter if he loses a fights against bullies. At least he is able to say that he stood up to them. And the real outcome is once you stand up to a bully, it is no longer worth the effort for the bully to pick on you if he knows he will be in a fight and will be hurt. There is always some softer, younger target to go after.”
That just isn’t always true.
My son fought a bully (and won) and the kid acted like it was a fluke. Came after my son a hundred times harder. It took more than a dozen beat-downs before the kid finally let up.
Then the kid went after easier targets and my son beat him up for *that*.
At one point, the kid reported my son for breaking his nose. Thankfully, the school had common sense and didn’t use zero tolerance against my kid.
This kid is a *criminal*. And you’re right. NO adult would have to tolerate this abuse.