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Donovan 1967,The Byrds'70 1st there is a Mountain/ I'm going to catch that horse!
san rafael blue

Posted on 02/11/2013 7:45:56 PM PST by San Rafael Blue

Here are two old songs to ponder and enjoy for what they were, and for what they meant at that time. I don't compare them to each other, the songs have been flying to and fro in my head, so perhaps they 'want to be written about'.

In this corner you have Sir Donovan Leitch of Scotland, made his fame in England with Mellow Yellow, Wear Your Love Like Heaven and others.

People forget that 1967 didn't just bring us Sergeant Pepper, we also heard a most intriquing stanza of First there is mountain, then thereis no mountain, then there is;, I know it sounds like loopy thinking, but Donovan was enjoying the sophistry of the visual image, asking us to, just for two and a half minutes, be aware of the temporal nature of things (Maya).

One need not be a buddhist or devotee of Sarte to think, Hmmm, that reminds me of molecluesand atoms, which make up everything we perceive in the physical world. I like the lilting flutes, the light, infectious jazzy beat. Youtube or google it up yourself, I defy you to hear it without saying 'Damn!, That's nice melody and a good toe-tapper too!". It's a pleasant audio confection, quite deceptive in its' simplicity. It becomes a flowing mantra that should not be stopped...for a while. Yes, I use terms like mantra, I consider the temporal nature of the physical world and I'm a Catholic (ex-altar boy at St Cecilia). I'm not afraid to examine other patterns of thought. I don't lose who I am or wish to become. This helps me to understand other cultures in other lands, new songs from familiar hands.

In the other corner, we have a group called The Byrds. They had Mr. Tamborine, written by Bob Dylan, The 23rd Psalm; or To Everything there is a Season.

Today, we examine another song; Chestnut Mare from 1970. There is much symbolism in this song, his pursuit of the wild and beautiful horse. He learns her habits, where she swims, where she goes to eat. The speaker throws his lasso high in the air, catches her, mounts her for a brief dazzling ride up this hillsides.

She's spooked by a snake, not sure what to do. In short order, they both jump down off a raised cliff, landing with a messy splash in a shallow pond below. Listen to him tell his story.

Here I am, thinking about these old songs. I wonder, did previous generations hold on to their melody memories so tightly, in the way I and others of a certain age still do?


TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment; Poetry
KEYWORDS: 12stringacoustic; bongos; donovan; flute; music; thebyrds

1 posted on 02/11/2013 7:46:04 PM PST by San Rafael Blue
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To: San Rafael Blue

Gee, and I thought it was just about taking psychotropic drugs.


2 posted on 02/11/2013 7:48:05 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: San Rafael Blue

Hail Atlantis!


3 posted on 02/11/2013 7:49:26 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Dr. Sivana

LOL!


4 posted on 02/11/2013 7:53:01 PM PST by Misterioso ( "Those who grant sympathy to guilt, grant none to innocence." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Dr. Sivana
One 0bama pill makes you larger...., and the other 0bama pill makes you small...

Not much changing.

5 posted on 02/11/2013 7:54:45 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: mylife
One of my favorite Donovan songs. "Way down... below the ocean... where I wanna be, she may be"
6 posted on 02/11/2013 7:59:51 PM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: San Rafael Blue
“Before I had studied Chan (Zen) for thirty years, I saw mountains as mountains, and rivers as rivers. When I arrived at a more intimate knowledge, I came to the point where I saw that mountains are not mountains, and rivers are not rivers. But now that I have got its very substance I am at rest. For it's just that I see mountains once again as mountains, and rivers once again as rivers.”

—Qingyuan Weixin as translated by D.T. Suzuki

7 posted on 02/11/2013 8:00:37 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Flick Lives

Hurdy Gurdy Man is pretty great too.

But, Wears Her Love Like Heaven is just fantastic.


8 posted on 02/11/2013 8:02:06 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Rivers come from Mountains. Nothing like out-wash alluvial fans.


9 posted on 02/11/2013 8:03:12 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Flick Lives
One of my favorite Donovan songs. "Way down... below the ocean... where I wanna be, she may be"

Never can hear that song quite the same way again after watching Goodfellas.

10 posted on 02/11/2013 8:06:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: San Rafael Blue

Wow dude, like I don’t think you even ‘experienced’ the Sixties man.
You don’t seem to ‘get’ sex OR drugs! And that’s really far out man.


11 posted on 02/11/2013 8:08:32 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith

If you can remember the sixties, you weren’t there.


12 posted on 02/11/2013 8:10:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: San Rafael Blue

Daughter of Donovan [Leitch]

13 posted on 02/11/2013 8:12:05 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: San Rafael Blue
Donovan, the guy with the brocade coat
Used to sing to you about Atlantis
You loved it, you were so involved then
That's back in the days when you used to smoke a banana
You would scrape the stuff off the middle
You would bake it
You would smoke it
You even thought you was getting ripped from it
No problem
Ah Atlantis, they could really get down there...
14 posted on 02/11/2013 8:14:05 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Flick Lives
Steve Hillage, Live ~ Hurdy Gurdy Man Wild guitar solo
15 posted on 02/11/2013 8:14:39 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: San Rafael Blue
Some folks see beauty, even in debris...

(from the illustrated book) Rock Dreams
Donovan
"The Fool on the Hill"
Nik Cohn

16 posted on 02/11/2013 8:36:18 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: San Rafael Blue

Ecclesiastes, Chapter 3


17 posted on 02/11/2013 8:42:29 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: mylife

Jennifer Juniper, by Donavan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCtcXDCxh7w


18 posted on 02/11/2013 8:52:47 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: San Rafael Blue
In the other corner, we have a group called The Byrds. They had Mr. Tamborine, written by Bob Dylan, The 23rd Psalm; or To Everything there is a Season.

I'm not aware of the Byrds doing a song based on Psalm 23. If they did, please refresh my memory. (Memory is the second thing to fail with old age. I can't remember what the first is.)

Turn! Turn! Turn!(To everything there is a season) is based on Ecclesiastes 3. Pete Seeger, communist folk singer, put these words of the Bible to music, and the Byrds covered it and had a huge hit with it.

19 posted on 02/11/2013 8:53:55 PM PST by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Rocky
Pete Seeger, communist folk singer, put these words of the Bible to music,

Even the Devil can quote Scripture.

20 posted on 02/11/2013 8:54:47 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: San Rafael Blue

Colours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O87fFRizZY


21 posted on 02/11/2013 9:01:29 PM PST by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Paladin2

And the out of date pills obamacare will give you don’t do anything at all.

Go ask moochelle and hillary & huma, and pelosi when they’re ten feet tall.

Cause of course.... THEY were the rabbits, and boy does it ever show.


22 posted on 02/11/2013 9:01:38 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: dfwgator

“If you can remember the sixties, you weren’t there.”

Wow man, like that’s so heavy!


23 posted on 02/11/2013 9:05:30 PM PST by mrsmith ("Happy trails to you...")
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To: San Rafael Blue

Superman and Green Lantern ain’t got nothing on me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTuPbJLqFKI


24 posted on 02/11/2013 9:05:56 PM PST by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: dfwgator

And throughout his “sanctified” life, always followed the orders of the Comintern and Stalin. He was against the US being in WWII until the nazis invaded the Soviets, Stalin woke up and realized he’d need us-—then the word went out.

An absolute communist bastard, brat child of academics, and like all of them (obama too) extremely self important— for the “working man” never having done a day’s work in their lives.


25 posted on 02/11/2013 9:06:17 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: mrsmith

There’s that word again. “Heavy.” Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the Earth’s gravitational pull?


26 posted on 02/11/2013 9:06:50 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: San Rafael Blue
Abraham Lincoln wrote his Gettysburg Address without ever hearing either of these songs.

Maybe he was drunk.

27 posted on 02/11/2013 9:08:20 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Rocky

You are correct. The song was based on ecclesiastes. It reads like logic set to poetry.


28 posted on 02/11/2013 9:08:52 PM PST by San Rafael Blue
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To: San Rafael Blue

The only version of “Mountain” that Southerners (at least this one) would/will listen to.

33mins, 42 seconds Live- The Allman Brothers- from Eat a Peach. Sweet duo guitar, sweet slide and.... melody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuNz2idDtY

Deo Vindice.


29 posted on 02/11/2013 9:11:53 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: dfwgator

The future?

Man we’re talking about almost 50 years ago!

Well, over 40 years ago. Or something like that, anyway ‘things’ had more ‘weight’ back then- you know?
Back before global warming I guess.
Wait, here comes my nurse. Her grandmother was at Woodstock too...


30 posted on 02/11/2013 9:17:03 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: San Rafael Blue

The Crash Test Dummies of the 90s struck me as heirs to that creative vein about 15 years ago.

The song from that era going through my head the last couple of years is “Time” by the Chambers Brothers.


31 posted on 02/11/2013 9:18:33 PM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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To: KC Burke
The song from that era going through my head the last couple of years is “Time” "

With everything going on today, I'm having "We gotta get outa this place" flashbacks to '68.

32 posted on 02/11/2013 9:57:31 PM PST by norton
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To: San Rafael Blue
People forget that 1967 didn't just bring us Sergeant Pepper

Some of my favorites from that year:


33 posted on 02/11/2013 9:57:31 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Some glittering jewels in your list. I thought I had total recall of all the really good ones. Thx


34 posted on 02/11/2013 10:42:49 PM PST by San Rafael Blue
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To: Fiji Hill

“See Emily Play.” I bought The Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn album, and that was the first song on it. On the cd Astronomy Domine is the first song. Won a few bets on that one.


35 posted on 02/12/2013 6:51:04 AM PST by klgator
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To: dfwgator

There’s that word again. “Heavy.” Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the Earth’s gravitational pull?


Far out, man! I thought “Heavy” was just an album by Iron Butterfly.


36 posted on 02/12/2013 11:26:03 AM PST by Peet (TurboTax: "So simple even a Secretary of the Treasury can use it!")
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To: jjotto

This lovely scottish lass MUST take after her Mum. I love Donovan’s music and mystique, but his face was always an owlish, tan-free blank slate, even back then.


37 posted on 02/12/2013 2:31:16 PM PST by San Rafael Blue
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To: Paladin2
[Rivers come from Mountains. Nothing like out-wash alluvial fans.]

I had to look up the term. I ran across some aerial photos. Very interesting. I would imagine geologists, paleontologists, archaeologists, gold prospectors, etc. might explore these features for clues about what the mountain might hold.

Incidentally, I was in Vietnam when Donovan's song hit the air. We were living in a valley surrounded by some spectacular mountains. Sometimes a mountain would be covered in mist or clouds and then it would reappear then disappear. That's what I thought the song was describing.

38 posted on 02/13/2013 7:34:18 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: KC Burke
How about Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes, Journey to the Center of the Mind.

But I too, like you, was fascinated by the Chambers Brothers, "Time." That change in tempo, with lots of reverb, etc.

39 posted on 02/13/2013 7:41:05 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

There were a couple of different versions of “Time”. One was a much more laden with reverb and other little tricks.


40 posted on 02/13/2013 8:15:15 AM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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