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AK-74 Vs AR-15 (Vanity)
Vanity | demshateGod

Posted on 02/12/2013 8:34:58 AM PST by demshateGod

It's about time I buy a scary rifle. I've been looking at prices on the local classified and Gun Broker and started thinking an AK-74 would give me the most for my money. I'm interested in hearing from those of you who are much smarter and informed.

5.45x39 is a good round and it's cheap, but will this always be the case? Will I even be able to get it 10 years from now?

I'm doing all I can to avoid paying panic prices but if I don't buy one soon, the money I've set aside for it will end up being used for other things.


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Please advise. Thank you.
1 posted on 02/12/2013 8:35:05 AM PST by demshateGod
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To: demshateGod

Buy it. No brainer. Ammo will be around. Keep collecting.


2 posted on 02/12/2013 8:40:44 AM PST by gwgn02
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To: demshateGod

Buy it. No brainer. Ammo will be around. Keep collecting. Join the NRA and donate often to keep our voice strong.


3 posted on 02/12/2013 8:41:41 AM PST by gwgn02
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To: demshateGod

I’m not a fan of the lighter bullets for various reasons. I’d go with the AK47 with the 7.62 x 39. The AKs are very easy to work on and very hardy. The larger bullet still has mild recoil and they are a BLAST to shoot. Unfortunately prices are a premium as you already know. That’s my 2 cents.


4 posted on 02/12/2013 8:44:42 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: demshateGod

.556 is better IMHO.

You can shoot .223 if its chambered for .556 but not visaversa.

Be ready to stand in line.

I put an AR-15 online and got 73 replies within the hour. I could have asked whatever $$$ I wanted.


5 posted on 02/12/2013 8:44:47 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: demshateGod
I think in today's climate (where we've given our seat of power to commmunists) the best thing you can invest in is reloading equipment, then stockpile components to last you through times like these.

As far as a particular ammo being available ten years from now, I never would have dreamed 22 long rifle would ever be in such short supply. The panic buying public never ceases to amaze me.

Re which rifle, if I were you I would wait 6 or 7 months, and pick up a quality AR.

6 posted on 02/12/2013 8:44:54 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: demshateGod
FN FAL metric.

Its manly, has a beefier cartridge (7.62x51) than the AR-15 or AK-47, and has all of the scarey cosmetics that make Democrats wet themselves.

The MA1A is also suitable.

If you want to go old school, the M1 Garand, SVT-40, AG-42 Ljungman, Hakim, and FN49 are all respectable choices.

7 posted on 02/12/2013 8:45:36 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: envisio
*** I mean 5.56*****
8 posted on 02/12/2013 8:46:38 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: demshateGod

Both because I celebrate caliber diversity.


9 posted on 02/12/2013 8:47:54 AM PST by TSgt (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.)
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To: SampleMan
"If you want to go old school, the M1 Garand,"

The M1 Garand is an excellent weapons AND can do double duty as an Emergency Boat Anchor...

10 posted on 02/12/2013 8:49:10 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: demshateGod

I went with a Saiga, which is the civilian version of the AK. Shoots 7.62x39. Very easy to handle. What’s best is that unlike the AR-15 you can bury this thing in dirt, pull it out and it will still fire. Try that with an AR-15. They are also very easy to field strip. Through Sportsman Guide you can get 1000 rounds for $220.


11 posted on 02/12/2013 8:51:32 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: BipolarBob

My brother has an AK. I love it.


12 posted on 02/12/2013 8:51:54 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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***5.45x39 is a good round and it’s cheap,****

That is not a.223 or 5.56 MM. It is definitely not a .30x39 RS either.

Stick with .223 or .30.


13 posted on 02/12/2013 8:52:12 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Too old to cut the mustard any more.)
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To: demshateGod
Back in the day, I carried an AR-15. My Sergeant carried an AK. Don't know if the stuff below is still accurate but I do know when the trigger is pulled, you want something that will fire.

My AR-15 needed to be kept clean as well as the ammo. Otherwise, it jammed at the most inconvenient times.

The AK is made out of stamped parts and rattled when handled. Yet it never failed.

14 posted on 02/12/2013 8:52:12 AM PST by Makana (Today's solution is tomorrow's problem.)
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To: demshateGod
It all depends on you.

5.45x39 ammo is never going to be stocked in JimBo’s gas station next to the 30-06, 30-30, 7.62x39, .308, .223, 9mm, .357 Mag, .45 ACP, .40 S&W, .390 Auto, .38 Special and 22LR ammo.

It will be available on the internet (if in ten years you can buy ammo over the internet), at gun shows (if there are still gun shows), and at large specialty firearms/sporting goods stores.

I have a number of rifles in “obscure” or obsolete cartridges. I reload for all of them. I even reload for a lot of commonly available cartridges.

Personally, if you want a “scary” rifle, save your money and get a rifle that is something the you want and will be of real value to you and your heirs. If I wanted to purchase a firearm that liberals want to ban, it would probably be a semi-automatic Russian-import (AK-style action), box-magazine shotgun in 12 gauge. That is a firearm that would have lots of different uses, be very reliable, great for home protection, and very politically incorrect.

15 posted on 02/12/2013 8:52:50 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: demshateGod

“Only accurate rifles are interesting.”

The AR-15 has it in spades over the AK-47 when it comes to accuracy, but the AK-47 has a well-earned reputation for reliability.

The AR is also much more modular and has an inherently better optics mounting platform. Even the older A2 carry handle models are better than the AK in this regard.

However, if you have the opportunity to get a GOOD AK (lots of junk out there), get one. Right now prices are high, so watch what you pay for the premium of having one now vs not getting it later.


16 posted on 02/12/2013 8:53:54 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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Re which rifle, if I were you I would wait 6 or 7 months, and pick up a quality AR.

I should have said, "pick up a quality AR at a reasonable price." The feds aren't going to outlaw ARs, and people who bought ARs expecting such are going to be selling them.

I read this status of the gun industry on another forum. It was posted by a gun dealer.

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Status of gun industry

Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here’s what we were told.

Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1. Remington-Maxed out!

Armalite: Maxed out.

DPMS: Can’t get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier’s.

LWRC:Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can’t get enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.

AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.

MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester , CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra’s for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we’ll keep you posted...

(End quote)

The upshot is that manufacturers are ramping up production to meet demand. Once demand is met, prices will fall. It'll be like the housing crash.

Now, if you happen to be unfortunate enough to live in a pinko commie fag controlled state, that's a horse of a different stripe. All bets are off.

17 posted on 02/12/2013 8:54:09 AM PST by LouAvul
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Until my income doubles, I don’t think I want to pay for 308 ammo. Thanks though. In the upcoming CW I want to be next to you in the foxhole.


18 posted on 02/12/2013 8:55:32 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod
My brother has an AK. I love it.

AK74 or AK47? They are both fun to shoot but the 47 has more knockdown power.

19 posted on 02/12/2013 8:55:32 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: LouAvul
"Re which rifle, if I were you I would wait 6 or 7 months, and pick up a quality AR."

A "friend" was discussing logistics for the inevitable Zombie Apocalypse. His thinking is streamlining his arsenal down to just a few different calibers. He is thinking instead of his AR-15 he replace it with a 9mm Carbine and using 9mm handguns. His thinking is that 9mm is a more plentiful (and cheaper) ammo to acquire before AND AFTER the SHTF...

20 posted on 02/12/2013 8:56:53 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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