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Christopher Dorner Shootout - Cops say "Burn It Down"
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Posted on 02/13/2013 5:33:38 AM PST by Morgana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc&feature=youtu.be

From KCal 9 News around 1:30 PM PST - Sorry, I don't own a PVC so I had to use my phone. I have this footage saved on my DVR.

Edit: To address comments: No, I did not edit this. This is recorded with my cellphone. This was recorded by reporter Carter Evans. It is not radio chatter that is being heard. He says earlier in the broadcast, (which I can also upload) that he is speaking to them via his speakerphone on the ground from the middle of the shootout, and the cops can also be heard telling him "get the f*** out of here pal". The timestamp of this event is ~1:35pm.

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1 posted on 02/13/2013 5:33:44 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana
If you've got the suspect surrounded, burn his house down.
If you have a drone that can take out an American citizen, take the shot.

This is what we've come to. This is where are as a country. There is not even a leap necessary to get to extermination camps -- they would be an implementation effort only, not a philosophical effort. Government sanctioned killing of citizens without benefit of trial is now how we do business.

2 posted on 02/13/2013 5:36:57 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Jeeesseeee Jaaaaksoooon in 3-2-1 ?


3 posted on 02/13/2013 5:39:34 AM PST by Morgana (This space for rent.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
They had to end the incident before the big “O’s” speech. Couldn't risk a “Breaking News” interruption.
4 posted on 02/13/2013 5:41:38 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Morgana

Youtube containing police scanner audio about “deploying the burners”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X-WoiJhVY8&feature=player_embedded#!

News clip where police can be heard saying “burn this m******”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po9EaU7ZjxI&feature=player_embedded


5 posted on 02/13/2013 5:42:23 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Morgana

Here’s an account that differs from last night’s official story:

“Just before 5 p.m., authorities smashed the cabin’s windows, pumped in tear gas and called for the suspect to surrender. They got no response. Then, using a demolition vehicle, they tore down the cabin’s walls one by one. When they reached the last wall, they heard a gunshot, officials said, and then the cabin burst into flames.”

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-manhunt-charred-human-remains-found-in-burned-cabin.html

I myself don’t believe that a flattened cabin would burn with the intensity, the smoke, and the flames that I saw on TV last night.


6 posted on 02/13/2013 5:42:39 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Morgana

Is it just me, or is the media strangly silent regarding yesterday’s events? There seem to be a couple of stories out there, but usually there’d be all sorts of chatter.

Maybe it’s just not getting reported on FR...


7 posted on 02/13/2013 5:43:41 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: fella
They had to end the incident before the big “O’s” speech. Couldn't risk a “Breaking News” interruption.

I would not be surprised if that really was a big part of the reason.

8 posted on 02/13/2013 5:43:53 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Morgana

Dorner killed another man yesterday...burning to death was too good for him. He is burning still, in hell.

May our hero, a fallen police officer, RIP. God bless his family, especially his infant child. My heart breaks for all those Dorner killed and their families.


9 posted on 02/13/2013 5:45:53 AM PST by tioga
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To: ClearCase_guy
These Facebook people are quick:


10 posted on 02/13/2013 5:46:42 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Waiting for Obama to declare they buried Dorner at sea after respecting the rituals of his chosen religion.
11 posted on 02/13/2013 5:48:41 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Morgana

“The people” don’t need arms, especially “assault rifles,” because we have the military and law enforcement to protect us. And we can always count on them to be righteous and to be there in time to protect us. They are the only ones who need such weaponry.

Both sides of the Dorner story prove the need of “the people” to have highly reliable, rapid-fire, high-capacity Defense Rifles (they are not “assault rifles,” because law-abiding citizens do not use them to launch an assault, only to defend).

We need adequate weaponry to protect ourselves against authorities who abuse their power and violate the US Constitution and our God-given unalienable rights.

And we need adequate weaponry to protect ourselves against hateful, totalitarian criminals who flip out and target innocent lives.

Given enough time, anyone who crossed the path of this leftist, Obama-loving murderous tyrant and who is the enemy if the left could have become his victim.


12 posted on 02/13/2013 5:50:02 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Morgana

The instant we saw the picture of that blue pickup truck, we knew that they wanted him dead. Many here wrote as much on that first day.


13 posted on 02/13/2013 5:52:11 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: fella
They had to end the incident before the big “O’s” speech. Couldn't risk a “Breaking News” interruption.
I think you're probably right. Maybe Michelle put in a call herself. {{{{{Peeps can't miss my bangs, my guns, my blood red dress.}}}}}
14 posted on 02/13/2013 5:54:41 AM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Morgana

Asisde from the homeowner(s) losing their cabin, I have no problem with them setting the place on fire to end this standoff.


15 posted on 02/13/2013 5:56:21 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Morgana
He had over two hours to surrender, he chose to go this way.

May God bless his victims and their families.

16 posted on 02/13/2013 5:56:33 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: chrisser
Is it just me, or is the media strangly silent regarding yesterday’s events?

Dorner, along with his manifesto, will be dropped into the memory hole. Along with the Christian/Newsom torture murders and other ghastly racial lash-out violence that doesn't fit the media template, it will never be mentioned again.

The media figures who supported Dorner - like Chris Matthews - will never mention his name again, unless forced to by the headlines of a particular day. If Dorner is dead, there won't be any more headlines about him.

Well, I take that back. It could happen.

If it comes out that he was encouraged or helped by other LEOs in the SoCal area, his name might rise to a one-day headline story nationally. That's the only way I see him grabbing national news attention now.

Even then its 50-50. If it turns out that he's part of a wide-ranging racist conspiracy among A-A LEOs, if it turns out that he has gang affiliations... I think it's completely possible that the MSM would bury the story.

17 posted on 02/13/2013 5:57:17 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: chrisser

Hillary’s running for president in 2016.

They don’t want a comparison to Waco.


18 posted on 02/13/2013 5:58:02 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: ClearCase_guy

Honestly, I thought they would have waited him out. After a week with no food he would surrender.

I thought the gun fight was a way to get his ammunition spent.

I wanted the bastard in jail for 50 years.

Maybe LA cops didn’t want him talking.


19 posted on 02/13/2013 5:58:12 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Morgana

wow

when do the inner city riots start?


20 posted on 02/13/2013 5:59:40 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: jiggyboy
I didn't see when the fire started but doesn't the "M15 White Phosphorous grenade"
give off a white smoke? They could have used it since it does burn at 5000°
and will burn down anything very fast. Maybe that was their final solution.
21 posted on 02/13/2013 5:59:45 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: jiggyboy
The instant we saw the picture of that blue pickup truck, we knew that they wanted him dead.

Yes, and I don't think it had anything to do with O's speech. I think it had to do with making absolutely sure he could never contradict the Official Narrative. We don't know if he did what they said he did... hey, we don't even know he wrote that manifesto, really. All we know is that when you go against the LAPD, they kill you. They disapprove of a citizen defending his/her own life, but you threaten theirs and by God, there will be no trial, and no paperwork but the paperwork they allow.

22 posted on 02/13/2013 6:01:28 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: PA-RIVER

“I wanted the bastard in jail for 50 years.”

Really? A firing squad the week after his arrest would have made me happy.


23 posted on 02/13/2013 6:03:14 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Can’t say I blame them. They are human, they don’t want to get shot. This guy was literally a mad dog and needed to be put down. We could use more of this attitude.


24 posted on 02/13/2013 6:04:20 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: nuconvert

The police said almost immediately that they themselves were the most likely cause of the fire.

As far as Dorner is concerned, Meh.

More important is the fact that Riverside officer Michael Crain is being laid to rest today. Dorner murdered Crain as he and the rookie he was training were sitting at a red light completely unaware of the threat Dorner posed. Crain was a father of two and former Marine chosen as a training officer due to he even temper and ability to spot potential problems with young recruits.


25 posted on 02/13/2013 6:06:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Aquamarine
Now ... when do we get to see the arrest, trial, conviction, and incarceration of the police "officers" who criminally assaulted the occupants of a blue pickup truck and a black Honda???

Or maybe you'd like to see them burned to death in a cabin in the woods?

May God bless their victims and the families thereof.

26 posted on 02/13/2013 6:06:26 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Right on brother....and I hope he’s burning in hell at this moment!!


27 posted on 02/13/2013 6:07:10 AM PST by ontap
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To: MaxMax

If you can rummage around for some TV news video from KCAL or KCBS or KTTV, you’ll see that it was heavy black smoke the whole time.

The audio posted in one of the responses has somebody very clearly saying something like “bring in the burners”. Flamethrowers?


28 posted on 02/13/2013 6:09:06 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: PA-RIVER; IMR 4350
I wanted the bastard in jail for 50 years.

He's a LEO. It would be known that he was one, and he'd be dead at the hands of a convict in no time. Also, LEOs don't like having their own in the jails, even if he is a murderous psychopath, because he would know certain inside information that could be used against the detention officers.

As far as Waco, IMR, I thought the very same thing. Difference here, however, is that Dorner was a murderer and a leftist thug. In a way, he deserved to die. Also, he was killed by local law enforcement and not by the Feds. If an armored vehicle drove up and pumped napalm into the cabin knowing full well that there were hostages, we could compare this to Waco.

The Branch Davidians fired on ATF idiots within their legal right to protect their property. No one died in the initial engagement, but the Feds persisted and killed dozens of innocent women and children along with men who were protecting their right to assemble, their right to practice a religion, and their right to protect their property.

The comparisons are fleeting.

29 posted on 02/13/2013 6:10:00 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Steely Tom

I don’t see Dorner as having much at all in common the murderers of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom - those were impulsive, stupid, sane savages motivated by hatred of whites, and Dorner was a calculating, mentally unbalanced killer obsessed by personal grievance and perceived racist offenses against him - but he did not seem to hate whites as such, and he did not kill indiscriminately.


30 posted on 02/13/2013 6:12:39 AM PST by heartwood
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To: PA-RIVER
Maybe LA cops didn’t want him talking.

SOMEBODY didn't want him talking, that's for sure.
31 posted on 02/13/2013 6:13:55 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: jiggyboy

In the 80’s i believe there was a group called the Symbian Liberation Army, the Patty Hurst gang, that was holed up in LA. They burned that place down too.


32 posted on 02/13/2013 6:14:05 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s why I knew if he was still in the states it would end in another Waco style event. There is a bigger issue here and some people need to do some serious soul searching. If we are a society of laws based on, innocent until proven guilty, then executing suspects in the name of justice should not be acceptable.
On the other hand if we are ready to say ‘just kill that MF,’ making blind judgments on people we don’t know, based on accusations or news reports (how many times did the media get it wrong yesterday?), or you don’t like his politics then it is a sad day. There is nothing to stop the system from deciding you are a criminal and if you decide to resist, even better because they can just take you out, clean, so no one will ever hear your side of the story.


33 posted on 02/13/2013 6:14:52 AM PST by Axamari
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To: A_perfect_lady
We don't know if he did what they said he did... hey, we don't even know he wrote that manifesto, really

In my more tinfoil-leaning moments yesterday, I wondered how many people in the area had actually seen "Christopher Dorner" in the past week. I can't imagine more than about a dozen; four of them are dead, five more are LEO, and maybe there are three or four "civilians".

34 posted on 02/13/2013 6:15:10 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: chrisser
Is it just me, or is the media strangly silent regarding yesterday’s events?

On Fox News radio this morning it was one of the last stories, with about ten seconds devoted to it.

Consider it buried.

35 posted on 02/13/2013 6:15:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: rarestia
-- No one died in the initial engagement --

IIRC, the Davidians killed four ATF during the first battle.

36 posted on 02/13/2013 6:19:47 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: A_perfect_lady
I think it had to do with making absolutely sure he could never contradict the Official Narrative.

I agree. They had absolutely no intent of bringing him in alive.

37 posted on 02/13/2013 6:20:13 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: rarestia
Try to remember all this when the police are raiding 'terrorist compounds' where 'extremist gun-nuts' are 'barricaded' and 'holding hostages' with 'deadly assault weapons' ...

He's a LEO. It would be known that he was one, and he'd be dead at the hands of a convict in no time.

It's their job to prevent that. Who the heck is running the jail, anyway? The prisoners? (I suspect so, actually ...)

Also, LEOs don't like having their own in the jails,

Tough. That decision is above their pay-grade. If they don't like it, they should find another line of work.

The job of police is to arrest suspects and bring them to trial. If they can't understand that, then again they need to find another line of work.

38 posted on 02/13/2013 6:21:58 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: rarestia
-- ... the Feds persisted and killed dozens of innocent women and children along with men who were protecting their right to assemble, their right to practice a religion, and their right to protect their property. --

I hold that the feds were attempting to enforce an unconstitutional ban on certain weapons. Waco, and quite a few other incidents, are an impediment to the government EVER backing down from its unconstitutional grab of rights from the citizens.

39 posted on 02/13/2013 6:22:10 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: heartwood
I don’t see Dorner as having much at all in common the murderers of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom - those were impulsive, stupid, sane savages motivated by hatred of whites, and Dorner was a calculating, mentally unbalanced killer obsessed by personal grievance and perceived racist offenses against him - but he did not seem to hate whites as such, and he did not kill indiscriminately.

He does have something in common with the Christian/Newsom murderers: his crimes were horrific, and they do not fit the "blacks are victims of white racism" MSM storyline narrative.

The Dorner case, like the Christian/Newsom case, motivates ordinary people to go out and buy guns and stock up on ammunition. This in itself is enough of a reason for the MSM to treat it is poison.

Anyway, we'll see. The Christian/Newsom case was dropped, as was that case in the midwest where the white college kids were tortured over a period of days in their rented off-campus house (sorry, can't remember the name of the city) before they were killed by A-A home invaders.

Maybe I'll be wrong. Maybe this one will stay alive in the news. I doubt it though.

40 posted on 02/13/2013 6:22:41 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I never said that I wanted to see anyone burn up in a cabin besides theres no comparison between an accidental shooting and premeditated murder.
41 posted on 02/13/2013 6:24:30 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Cboldt
IIRC, the Davidians killed four ATF during the first battle.

So it was said, but IIRC, all of them were alleged to have the same wound to the base/back of the skull, and were have been alleged to have been once Clinton bodyguards in Arkansas.

42 posted on 02/13/2013 6:25:00 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: rarestia

“no one died in the initial engagement”

Might want to check you facts.

I was contacted by one of the Waco investigators. I know a few things about Waco others don’t know.

Trust me, Hillary doesn’t want questions about Waco brought back up while she is running for president.


43 posted on 02/13/2013 6:25:44 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: chrisser
Is it just me, or is the media strangly silent regarding yesterday’s events?

When they blew away that Dykes guy in his hole in the ground in Alabama last week, that story died as quickly and completely as he did.

My only question is, will it be exactly two days from the end of one big violent national 24/7 gun story until the next one, like it has been three times in February already?

44 posted on 02/13/2013 6:26:05 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Axamari
-- There is nothing to stop the system from deciding you are a criminal and if you decide to resist, even better because they can just take you out, clean, so no one will ever hear your side of the story. --

That's just the way it is, but not for every thorn in the government's side, just for some of them.

And if you don't threaten violence, the government will still hand you your ass, in jail. "Might makes right" is the way of the world, and the feds are expert practitioners.

Anyway, this incident doesn't change anything. The reality in the United States has been like this for a couple decades, at least. The government NEVER admits doing anything unacceptable, not even after it loses in court.

45 posted on 02/13/2013 6:26:31 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: ClearCase_guy
I heard on the news that the cabin just "burst into fire".

So, it's really the cabin acting much like an evil SUV.

46 posted on 02/13/2013 6:28:13 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Aquamarine
I never said that I wanted to see anyone burn up in a cabin

Earlier, you wrote: "He had over two hours to surrender, he chose to go this way."

Yeah ... whatever.

theres no comparison between an accidental shooting and premeditated murder.

There's absolutely nothing 'accidental' about a bunch of bloodthirsty thugs-in-uniform criminally assaulting innocent people who don't even remotely resemble the suspect that they're supposed to be trying to arrest.

47 posted on 02/13/2013 6:28:53 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Whether the dead ATF were assassinated by their peers, or were hit by davidians, it still isn’t true that nobody died in the first battle. The ATF took out a few Davidians too.


48 posted on 02/13/2013 6:29:12 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Anyway, this incident doesn't change anything. The reality in the United States has been like this for a couple decades, at least. The government NEVER admits doing anything unacceptable, not even after it loses in court.

Right. The Constitution is dead. The Republic is dead. The only real question, from a forensic or historic perspective, is "when did they die?"

49 posted on 02/13/2013 6:31:21 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: nuconvert
Really? A firing squad the week after his arrest would have made me happy.

The Constitution is over 200 years old and doesn't apply to modern times. All that crap about trials and juries and such...it needs to be tossed in the name of expedience.

obama will make sure that no Conservative is ever subjected to a police action of this sort.

50 posted on 02/13/2013 6:31:32 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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