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If Dorner Is Dead, Who Gets The $1.1M Reward Money?
(CBSLA.com) ^ | February 13, 2013 7:54 PM | Randy Paige

Posted on 02/14/2013 9:03:49 AM PST by BenLurkin

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — If Christopher Dorner is dead, who will get the $1.1 million reward that was being offered for his arrest? Officials say it’s complicated.

Randy Paige, reporting for CBS2 and KCAL9, says the language used was “a reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction” of the suspect.

There will be no arrest. And no conviction. So does Los Angeles have to pay up? And if so, to whom?

LA Councilman Dennis Zine is one of three council members who called on the city to offer $100,000. (The additional money came from other municipalities, organizations and private donations.)

Says Zine, “Is it the arrest and conviction? Is it the ability to locate the individual who is wanted? There’s a lot of factors. It’s going to be up to the legal experts to make that determination.”

He believes it is unclear if the terms of the reward have been met.

“We may have a lot of people file a claim. ‘I made a 911 call, I thought he was in the mountains, whatever.’ So that’s all going to be a process. It’s not going to happen overnight but we’re obligated to follow the rule and the rule is if that follows what the boundaries are then that reward will be paid.”

Who will decipher if “arrest and conviction” is followed to the letter? Says Zine, “That’s going to be up to the legal experts to make that determination.”

Richard Heltebrake, the man whose vehicle was allegedly carjacked by Dorner before he got into a shootout with San Bernardino deputies, told CBS2 and KCAL9 reporter Stacey Butler that he was “absolutely” going to pursue the $1 million.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: dorner

1 posted on 02/14/2013 9:03:53 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

The maid should get all the money.


2 posted on 02/14/2013 9:06:14 AM PST by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: BenLurkin
No one...The terms were "leading to the capture and conviction"....

There was NEVER an intended payout. I believe their orders were..."Kill on sight".

3 posted on 02/14/2013 9:07:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: BenLurkin

Nobody gets any reward, and that was how they had it planned.

The reward was offered for info leading to arrest and conviction, and they knew that they were not going to allow him to live and blab out the facts in court.


4 posted on 02/14/2013 9:09:42 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Sacajaweau

It certainly looks like they never wanted him alive


5 posted on 02/14/2013 9:10:30 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: BenLurkin
They killed him so he couldn't be arrested and convicted so they wouldn't have to pay the reward.

It was obvious from the very beginning.

6 posted on 02/14/2013 9:10:43 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: BenLurkin

That’s easy, me.


7 posted on 02/14/2013 9:11:06 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: editor-surveyor
There is an entire body of law pertaining to rewards and claims made open them.

It is a subspecies of Contract Law.

The answer is in there somewhere.

8 posted on 02/14/2013 9:12:52 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Tenacious 1
-- The maid should get all the money. --

She'll get all the reward money that's paid out ;-)

9 posted on 02/14/2013 9:12:59 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Sacajaweau; E. Pluribus Unum

Please see Post 4


10 posted on 02/14/2013 9:14:42 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Andrei Bulba

It was your idea to use the “burners”?

Good call!


11 posted on 02/14/2013 9:15:53 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

No one.
Dorner was not arrested or convicted, so they are not going to pay the reward.


12 posted on 02/14/2013 9:16:50 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: BenLurkin

Give it to the guy who said,

“Burn the M******-F***er Down!”

He’s a hero among the shiny-boot Freepers.


13 posted on 02/14/2013 9:18:34 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: BenLurkin

The lady whom the shooter tied up. She managed to make the call that brought the full force of LE to bear.


14 posted on 02/14/2013 9:20:11 AM PST by petro45acp (No good endeavour survives an excess of adult supervision)
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To: BenLurkin

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Reward.aspx


15 posted on 02/14/2013 9:21:07 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

You are johnny-on-the-spot right...there was never any plan or intention for Dorner to do a “perp walk”.


16 posted on 02/14/2013 9:21:07 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Tenacious 1

There were no “maids”.

It was a couple who went in to do some re-modeling on the cabin and surprised Dorner...


17 posted on 02/14/2013 9:21:37 AM PST by Beaten Valve
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To: Uncle Miltie
Give it to the guy who said, “Burn the M******-F***er Down!”

That's a good idea but maybe better would be to the families of those this maggot killed.

18 posted on 02/14/2013 9:22:12 AM PST by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: BenLurkin

The guy that shot the Waco Tear Gas Canister, that’s who. He must have used the same type of ‘hot’ canister that the FBI, or the US Military Advisors, or the ATF, or the IRS or the CIA, or the DEA, or whoever fired them off at Waco - I never really did hear any agency take credit for that fine, fine act that resulted in the deaths of dozens and dozens of men, women and children. Contratulations whoever you were, you should be right proud of your fine self /s


19 posted on 02/14/2013 9:22:40 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: BenLurkin

At least they could use some of it to rebuild the guys cabin they torched.


20 posted on 02/14/2013 9:22:49 AM PST by AU72
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To: BenLurkin

I just posted info from West...pretty much the standard...but I haven’t looked up precedence. My best friend indexed for West for years.


21 posted on 02/14/2013 9:23:14 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: T-Bird45

I opined the same thing days ago. They weren’t acting like someone that wanted to capture and arrest him. Acted like they wanted to keep him from a show trial and talking.


22 posted on 02/14/2013 9:24:09 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: editor-surveyor; Sacajaweau
Nobody gets any reward, and that was how they had it planned. The reward was offered for info leading to arrest and conviction, and they knew that they were not going to allow him to live and blab out the facts in court.

Sure looks that way to me (and the newspaper ladies, and the driver of the black truck...)

23 posted on 02/14/2013 9:25:10 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Gaffer

A disclaimer here of sorts: I in no way equate This guy with the people (especially the innocent children) that were killed by the government’s use, I believe intentional, fire-starting gas canisters at Waco. I only remarked in the previous post because these fire-starters seem to be de riguere when the ‘authorities’ want to burn somebody’s ass up.


24 posted on 02/14/2013 9:29:13 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: BenLurkin
If Christopher Dorner is dead, who will get the $1.1 million reward that was being offered for his arrest?

Divided amoung the various police departments for coffee and donuts.

25 posted on 02/14/2013 9:29:20 AM PST by Logical me
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To: BenLurkin

How about giving it to the owners of the cabin they burned down!!


26 posted on 02/14/2013 9:35:12 AM PST by BobinIL
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To: Gaffer

I’d previously posted no opinion but my private thoughts were along those lines. Actually, in my thinking I broadened the context to how actual policing gets done in such extreme cases with the concept being we are pointing towards more of these, IMO. There are many lessons to be learned here.


27 posted on 02/14/2013 9:36:19 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: McGruff

I’m totally with you there.

More, too. The family of any officer killed in the line of duty should be financially set for life by definition. Even as an extremely small government conservative, there is no replacing “Dad”. We should do whatever is possible (which is cash) for those killed in the line of duty.

Officers are called on to do tremendously difficult work. That places huge responsibility on them, for which we hold them to account at times. And, they have tremendous power, which must be exercised carefully. And, they should be paid very well. Etc. It’s a massive tradeoff when your life is at stake.

Let’s just be sure to balance all those factors with a thumb on the scales towards “Rule Of Law.”


28 posted on 02/14/2013 9:38:01 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: Sacajaweau

I agree. The way it was worded, there was never any intention to have to pay it out. He was not going to be arrested.


29 posted on 02/14/2013 9:39:58 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: T-Bird45

There is a good movie about ‘police’ intentions. It was called “Gaunlet” with Clint Eastwood and Sondra Locke as the poor ‘perp’ the entire police department wanted to murder before she could be arrested.


30 posted on 02/14/2013 9:45:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

sp......GAUNTLET


31 posted on 02/14/2013 9:45:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

As a point of note, “non-fire starting” gas canisters were used first and when they didn’t have the desired affect the more potent CS canisters were used. It is my understanding that CP Dorner was also in possesion of CS canisters.


32 posted on 02/14/2013 9:48:49 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

Yep...that’s what the ‘authorities’ said......just like in Waco....”We didn’t have any idea this would start a fire - it was a surprise to us.”


33 posted on 02/14/2013 10:02:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Now that you remind me, I remember “Gauntlet” when it first came out and I think it was recently on TV somewhere like TCM or Encore. I noticed it when I skimmed past late in the show with Eastwood and Locke in the scene I saw.


34 posted on 02/14/2013 10:05:29 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: BenLurkin

The maids.


35 posted on 02/14/2013 10:13:33 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Cold Heart

It may have been. My point is that most ALL LEOs in any capacity know the difference and the likely outcomes. As for Dorner, my only understanding is that he possessed oxygen breathing gear and smoke canisters.


36 posted on 02/14/2013 10:14:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: NEMDF
I'm sure they will say they didn't wanted to create a vigilante situation....but that would be a lot of crap.

Remember when the FBI caught the Unabomber (sp)....the FBI had a friggin' party after they got him.

These boys will be doing the same.

This wasn't law enforcement....it was an assassination....

I'm not agreeing with Dorner in any way...He was a killer....

37 posted on 02/14/2013 10:19:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Indeed.. Why pay out one million dollars when you can spring a few bucks for incendiary tear gas. LOL I mean, that million bucks would’ve come from their pension fund!


38 posted on 02/14/2013 10:24:32 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe I’m missing something. Warren Buffett didn’t offer the money, so there is no “1.1 Million Dollars”.

That’s tax-payer money, and it probably wouldn’t even cover the cost of the 2000-LEO weeny-roast, so what the heck is everyone talking about?


39 posted on 02/14/2013 10:33:43 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: BenLurkin

Who gets the money?

The government. I believe it counts as income...


40 posted on 02/14/2013 10:34:54 AM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: BenLurkin

Some of it will go toward urban renewal for the burned out cabin.


41 posted on 02/14/2013 11:20:30 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: BenLurkin

It should be distributed in trust to the children of those he killed.


42 posted on 02/14/2013 11:27:18 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Tenacious 1

There never was a MAID. The couple were the homeowners. On the other hand, the wife probably is a maid.


43 posted on 02/14/2013 12:12:25 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Beaten Valve

Thank you. It was gettig on my last ragged nerve thay no one was getting the story right.


44 posted on 02/14/2013 12:17:24 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Give it to the owner of the “M******-F***er” cabin the jack-booted thugs burned down.

Amendment VI, much like Amendment II... completely optional at the discretion of The State.


45 posted on 02/14/2013 12:20:46 PM PST by Rodamala
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