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Man Accused of Faking Bite by Deadly Black Mamba
News4Jax ^ | Feb 13 2013

Posted on 02/15/2013 4:14:19 PM PST by nickcarraway

Federal prosecutors say a man on trial in Georgia was seeking to become famous as someone who survived a deadly bite from a black mamba -- but they say the story was a hoax.

Authorities still searching for Black Mamba snake John K. Rosenbaum Jr. of Jacksonville, Fla., is accused of touching off a desperate search for the snake in south Georgia after telling authorities he was bitten in November 2011 while meeting someone willing to sell him the snake at an exit of Interstate 95 in Camden County.

The snake is among the world's deadliest, and his story touched off a massive search for the deadly snake native to Africa. Authorities said more than 500 man hours were spent looking for the non-existent black mamba and involved investigators with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the Georgia Department of Natural Resources, Kingsland police and the Camden County Sheriff's Office.

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1 posted on 02/15/2013 4:14:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

But apparently it will be lawful for him to falsely claim to be a Medal of Honor recipient to enlist the sympathy of the jurors.


2 posted on 02/15/2013 4:21:48 PM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: nickcarraway

I did field work in mamba country - danger danger. They can move at almost 10 mph and are territorial, so you don’t even have to mess with them to get them pissed. My rule of thumb: every snake in Africa will drop you like a stone - don’t stick your hands where you can’t see them and don’t go poking around if you don’t want a big surprise.


3 posted on 02/15/2013 4:22:56 PM PST by stormer
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To: nickcarraway

I saw a show today in which they said they would name the 10 deadliest snakes. I guessed a black mamba as number one and darn, I was right.

I think the deadliest in the U.S. is the Eastern diamondback.


4 posted on 02/15/2013 4:27:02 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: stormer

And it’s usually not a good idea to buy a snake from someone willing to sell one on the exit of an interstate.


5 posted on 02/15/2013 4:29:23 PM PST by berdie
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To: Procyon

Someone needs to tattoo a big “ L “ on his forehead for “Loser.”


6 posted on 02/15/2013 4:30:04 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: stormer

And don’t go to Africa.


7 posted on 02/15/2013 4:32:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: stormer

“Two-Steps”, right!

And they are FAST! Thankfully, it was heading away from me.


8 posted on 02/15/2013 4:43:28 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: nickcarraway

Racist post...it’s mamba of color!


9 posted on 02/15/2013 4:47:28 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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10 posted on 02/15/2013 4:57:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: berdie
And it’s usually not a good idea to buy a snake from someone willing to sell one on the exit of an interstate.

He made that up too.

11 posted on 02/15/2013 5:00:37 PM PST by PrinterEagle
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To: cripplecreek
It's not for everybody, but I love Namibia...


12 posted on 02/15/2013 5:03:19 PM PST by stormer
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13 posted on 02/15/2013 5:10:13 PM PST by stormer
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To: nickcarraway

There was an individual in Little Rock, Arkansas, a few years back that had a Mamba mailed to him. He picked it up at the Little Rock Airport and they found him dead several miles from the airport in his automobile killed by a Mamba. The Mamba was never found. Personally, I wait to open packages after I get home.


14 posted on 02/15/2013 5:16:40 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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15 posted on 02/15/2013 6:02:06 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: vetvetdoug
Many years ago when I was in my early teens, I was visiting some relatives in the D.C. area. Some inner-city yute somehow managed to steal a couple gaboon vipers from the D.C. zoo, threw them in a plastic trashbag over his shoulder and hopped on the bus for the ride home.

Needless to say, he won a stupid prize and got bit. As far back as I have that filed in my memory banks, I still get a chuckle out of one of the news accounts reporting that the snake was in danger of possible infection :-)

16 posted on 02/15/2013 6:10:17 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack; vetvetdoug

I actually remember both of those stories but I doubt if I would have ever thought of them again in a million years without being reminded.

Several years ago, I killed a Florida diamondback with a .30 cal. Tokarev. It was just short of 7 feet and really heavy. I still have a picture of me holding it somewhere.


17 posted on 02/15/2013 6:19:16 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog
 photo ratlercopy.jpg Fund it.
18 posted on 02/15/2013 6:27:23 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog
A few years back, I got home from work one day, and is my habit, opened the door for my dog to go outside and do his business, while I came inside to get out of my work clothes. For some reason, I stopped what I was doing and stepped outside, and there was my dog eyeball to eyeball with a 3-4' long coiled cottonmouth on my brick patio, just staring at each other. I just said, "No! Get over here!" and my dog broke contact. I put him back in the house, grabbed my katana, went back outside and made sushi.

To this day, I can not attribute my decision to go back outside, and my dog's not getting bit to anything other than Divine intervention.

19 posted on 02/15/2013 6:29:16 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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20 posted on 02/15/2013 6:31:50 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Did he survive the bite? If he did it must have been a dry bite where no venom was injected. In Kakamega forest in Kenya children are known to play with Gaboons - a very deadly snake, with the longest fangs of any snake and a venom that would make the devil proud, but relatively docile (if.you are willing to risk a big heavy venomous snake with one of the world’s fastest striking speeds, venom from hell and fangs out of a Dracula movie, that close to you). I’ll be very surprised if that guy survived a wet bite from an actual Gaboon. To be honest I would rather be bitten by a Black Mamba than a Gaboon viper, or any one of the other two African Bitis family vipers (the Puff Adder and the Rhinoceros Viper). Death from a Mamba bite is relatively ‘peaceful.’ The neurotoxic venom shuts down your nervous system, and you stop breathing and the diaphragm muscles relax. However, the cytotoxic and hemotoxic Gaboon venom will break down yourttissues, make you bleed like crazy, black urine, swollen up like a balloon, etc. I’ve seen the effects of a Puff Adder bite where a small graze on the finger led to it being amputated. A student who went to my primary school was killed by a Puff Adder - he used to keep snakes in Nairobi. Give me a Mamba anytime over a Bitis viper. Anytime.


21 posted on 02/15/2013 6:32:12 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Joe 6-pack

In the last few years I have killed 3 cottonmouths. The odd thing is each one of them was crossing my yard, basically in the same place and I saw them while sitting at my computer next to a window.

Each time I grabbed a .22 pistol and killed them. I would not even think of getting close enough to use a sword. A few years ago, I saw a rattler right where a dirt road turned into asphalt. I stopped and picked up a chunk of asphalt and threw it at him. The snake struck and only missed me by a foot or so.

I had gotten careless and when I threw, my motion carried me a bit forward of what I thought I would go. I took maybe a dozen chunks before I disabled him enough to finish him off.


22 posted on 02/15/2013 6:40:09 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog

Back in the mid-80s, I was looking to go back overseas. I considered a post at the embassy in Monrovia, Liberia. I took the State Department hand book for Liberia home to show it to my late wife. She seemed OK with it until she got to the part about the embassy housing area called Mamba Point. They don’t call it Mamba Point because of all the little lambs that gambol there. I began looking for another overseas post. We ended up in Argentina.


23 posted on 02/15/2013 6:56:52 PM PST by Ax
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To: yarddog
 photo thIMG_0774copy.jpg About a five and a half foot rattler. This mutt liked killing snakes. I only wanted him to kill venomous ones but he would kill them all. He was really odd. Most dogs kill snakes by dashing in and grabbing them around mid way then immediately shaking them so viciously that the snake would fly apart. Instead, Smokey would dance back and forth expertly dodging strikes then eventually getting them behind the head and hanging on until the snake was dead. He would then grab them around the middle and parade the dead snake around like he was showing off. One day he just disappeared. He could have been stolen but I always wondered if a snake finally got the best of him.
24 posted on 02/15/2013 6:59:07 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
..some inner city ute...

I remember the incident very well. It was late 1982 or early 1983. I was on emergency at the University of Tennessee Veterinary college and received a phone call at about 11pm from a Washington D.C. hospital asking if we had any anti venom for a Gaboon viper. The Knoxville Zoo had Gaboon vipers and a couple of vials of the viper anti venom and the Tn ANG flew the anti venom to D.C. for the ute....small world.

25 posted on 02/15/2013 7:01:36 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: spetznaz
As I recall, the kid did survive, but I'm not 100% certain of that.
26 posted on 02/15/2013 7:01:57 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: vetvetdoug
"....small world."

Even smaller if you're a gaboon viper in a Hefty bag. ;-)

27 posted on 02/15/2013 7:04:33 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: vetvetdoug

was it mailed randomly or by someone he knew?


28 posted on 02/15/2013 7:13:53 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Joe 6-pack
That particular event had some ramifications for the zoo community. After the incident lawmakers and zoo managers passed a rule/law that stated (commonsense to me) that if a zoo or research facility had a poisonous snake then they were required to have enough anti venom on hand to treat a bite. This rule/law made the keeping of poisonous snakes very expensive since anti venom is expensive and goes out of date. I had duty at the reptile/snake exhibit at the Knoxville zoo and there were Gaboon vipers, red spitting cobras, green and black mambas, and the indigenous poisonous snakes of the US. The Boomslang and the Gaboon vipers were docile and easy to work with. The cobra was a bitch and one had to wear this hood that looked like a welders facemask anytime we were near it (2Meters)for anything. There was some rectal pucker factor to the cobra. Now the Mambas..they were evil incarnate. I didn't trust them, didn't like to be near them, work with them, or even be on the other side of the divider near them. They were quick and deliberate when they decided to move and you didn't know when that was. There were always multiple safeguards involved when working with the poisonous snakes. I don't do any reptile work now and haven't in over 25 years.
29 posted on 02/15/2013 7:42:58 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: yarddog
I think the deadliest in the U.S. is the Eastern diamondback.

When I was 10 years old, I was hunting with my grandfather in a very rural area of Alabama. We had our coon dogs searching out things. The dogs started to bay and when we got to them we found they had surrounded a huge diamondback rattler. It must have been 6 to 7 feet in length and maybe 8 inches in diameter of thickness (a little awkward language there). As we arrived we saw one of the dogs get too close and get bitten.

Grandfather dispatched the snake with a couple shotgun rounds but he had the problem of what to do with the dog. There was no vet in the whole county. In retrospect he should have shot the dog. It died a horrible choking death as the snake's venom paralyzed the muscles which control the lungs.

I will never forget that day.

30 posted on 02/15/2013 7:44:26 PM PST by OldPossum
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When we lived in the country outside DeFuniak Springs, our neighbor’s dog got bitten by a coral snake. The dog smelled him and was digging through rotten wood to get at the snake when he got bit.

The next day the dog’s head was really swollen but he eventually got over it. They didn’t take him to the vet.


31 posted on 02/15/2013 8:05:14 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: PrinterEagle

Ahhh, man. Don’t ruin the story! ;)


32 posted on 02/16/2013 12:13:55 AM PST by berdie
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To: nickcarraway
Beautiful but deadly:


33 posted on 02/16/2013 1:17:48 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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