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Marines Were Disarmed for President Obama's Second Inaugural Parade
TownHall.com ^ | 2/11/2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 02/17/2013 5:51:58 AM PST by NamVet71MP

He's gutted their healthcare, plans to cut their pay and apparently, doesn't trust them either. David Codrea over at Gun Rights Examiner points out that Marines marching in President Obama's second inaugural parade recently were caring rifles without bolts, meaning they were removed.

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Ameriphobia: A fear of Americans or symbols of the American way of life, culture or history.
1 posted on 02/17/2013 5:52:04 AM PST by NamVet71MP
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To: NamVet71MP

“Marines Were Disarmed...”

If it weren’t so tragic, it would be absolutely laughable that such a thing would be done by an
“American” President and the people who surround him.

IMHO


2 posted on 02/17/2013 5:54:54 AM PST by ripley
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To: NamVet71MP

Perhaps Barry was told about fragging.


3 posted on 02/17/2013 5:55:36 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: NamVet71MP

“Marines Were Disarmed...”

If it weren’t so tragic, it would be absolutely laughable that such a thing would be done by an
“American” President and the people that surround him.

IMHO


4 posted on 02/17/2013 5:56:27 AM PST by ripley
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To: NamVet71MP

Hoplophobia: An unreasonable fear of guns

Just wondering


5 posted on 02/17/2013 6:01:19 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: NamVet71MP

He’s been governing like a 2-bit African strongman, he must be thinking one day the military will seize power just like in his beloved third world.


6 posted on 02/17/2013 6:05:23 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: NamVet71MP; Kenny Bunk

The President’s got nothing to worry about. Heck, we don’t even know he’s foreign or domestic!


7 posted on 02/17/2013 6:07:34 AM PST by golux
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To: NamVet71MP

While I’m confident that 70% to 80% of Marines despise the socialist usurper, disarming them was unnecessary. The vast majority of Marines have a high level of integrity and would not harm the drug-addled petty tyrant, or worse, risk collateral damage to decent Americans who might be there against their will.


8 posted on 02/17/2013 6:09:34 AM PST by Pollster1
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To: ripley

All things considered. Considering who he really is and what he stands for... Can’t say i blame him.


9 posted on 02/17/2013 6:09:54 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NamVet71MP

Just wondering. Did Marines in past such parades routinely carry functional weapons and live ammunition? Somehow I doubt it.

My understanding is that live ammo is carefully controlled in the military and always has been. A significant contributor in the Ft. Hood massacre, which was essentially in a gun-free zone.


10 posted on 02/17/2013 6:13:58 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: NamVet71MP

Maybe he’s familiar with how Sadat died.


11 posted on 02/17/2013 6:15:14 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Pollster1

A POTUS who distrusts his own soldiers & Marines carrying guns, and preaches against citizens having guns.

A Federal government that distrusts the civilian population possessing guns. A few state governments which follow suit.

And liberal cluck disapprovingly at citizens who are stocking up on guns.

There’s a fundamental & unbridgeable divide in our society. Civil war is on the horizon.


12 posted on 02/17/2013 6:17:24 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: NamVet71MP

When a President has to fear the possibility of patriots, the President is not valid. As Reagan said, “The Constitution is not a threat to our nation or our Freedom” (paraphrased as I couldn’t find the original)


13 posted on 02/17/2013 6:20:30 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: NamVet71MP

I don’t think the ceremonial rifles they carry are operational anyway. Pretty sure they don’t draw weapons and ammunition from the Batallion armorer. Still, it says a lot that it has been noticed now, with this pres—ent, for the first time.


14 posted on 02/17/2013 6:24:01 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: golux
Heck, we don’t even know he’s foreign or domestic!

Yes he is, in fact I'd bet good money that he's foreign or domestic.

15 posted on 02/17/2013 6:24:13 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NamVet71MP

“were caring rifles without bolts,”.....................................Hmmmm, sounds like they are afraid of the Marine Brotherhood? Does the name Anwar Sadat come to mind?


16 posted on 02/17/2013 6:24:27 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Who remembers Ty Woods and Glenn Doherty? Forgot already?)
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To: Sherman Logan

-—as was pointed out in a previous post on this, it’s SOP and has been for years-—


17 posted on 02/17/2013 6:27:37 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Sherman Logan
Good morning.

Just wondering. Did Marines in past such parades routinely carry functional weapons...

I was in the Army, and the answer is yes. No, we were not issued ammo during parades. So, why do you think the president is worried?

5.56mm

18 posted on 02/17/2013 6:29:37 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Sherman Logan

Can’t speak for the Marine Corp [don’t want my head chewed off!]... But, if you were ever in the military and “marched on parade” OF COURSE your weapon was not loaded. No ammo. Remove the firing mechanism? That’s a new one on me. Maybe it’s part of Don’t-Ass-Don’t-Tell. Or, maybe it’s just that things have changed that much in the past 40 years. I remember an M-14 that I believe was full functional... save the ammo. Of course, I can’t remember what I had for lunch last Friday.

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho is still Ameriphobic.


19 posted on 02/17/2013 6:31:45 AM PST by NamVet71MP
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To: NamVet71MP

From what I’ve read, this is a ceremonial Marine unit that does almost nothing but Drill And Ceremony. At least one article suggested that the Marines did it themselves, as a subtle message to those who noticed.


20 posted on 02/17/2013 6:33:27 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: NamVet71MP

How about his security detail? Do their weapons have loaded magazines or are they just human shields?


21 posted on 02/17/2013 6:34:33 AM PST by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: NamVet71MP; mickie
Indira Gandhi, the 3rd Prime Minister of India, was assassinated by gunfire in 1984 at the Residence by two of her bodyguards, one of whom was her favorite.....having known him for 10 years.

Leni

22 posted on 02/17/2013 6:34:39 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: OneWingedShark

“””Heck, we don’t even know he’s foreign or domestic!

Yes he is, in fact I’d bet good money that he’s foreign or domestic. “””

How can you be so sure?


23 posted on 02/17/2013 6:38:03 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy
How can you be so sure?

The same way I can be sure that someone accused in a trial is innocent or guilty.
They are mutually exclusive terms which cover all possibilities, therefore he must be one of them.

24 posted on 02/17/2013 6:42:56 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Actually nobody is found innocent at a trial, they are found to be guilty or not guilty.

But as to the original post, I was joining you in kidding the original poster.


25 posted on 02/17/2013 6:53:27 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: M Kehoe
I was in the Army, and the answer is yes.

Hey! You mean my memory isn't completely gone?
26 posted on 02/17/2013 6:53:27 AM PST by NamVet71MP
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To: NamVet71MP
I see the Lex et odor, and cross pistols in your moniker, yes?

5.56mm

27 posted on 02/17/2013 6:57:32 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Sherman Logan

Certainly ammo is severely restricted in the Military, but it is easily purchased off base.

That is if someone wanted to get it.


28 posted on 02/17/2013 7:06:36 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Afterguard

It’s been a lot of years since I was in the military, but when we paraded we just drew our regular weapons.

There was no need for ammo so we got none, but we didn;’t take the bolts out.


29 posted on 02/17/2013 7:08:57 AM PST by Venturer
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To: shelterguy
But as to the original post, I was joining you in kidding the original poster.

Sorry, didn't catch that.

Actually nobody is found innocent at a trial, they are found to be guilty or not guilty.

They actually are found to be innocent: [1] a : free from guilt or sin especially through lack of knowledge of evil : blameless
b : harmless in effect or intention ; also : candid
c : free from legal guilt or fault; also : lawful

Just because the standard term is "not guilty" does not mean that is substantially different than the phrasing "was found to be innocent."

30 posted on 02/17/2013 7:09:23 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ripley
Marines Were Disarmed for President Obama's Second Inaugural Parade

In a perverse way, I find this kind of hopeful.

31 posted on 02/17/2013 7:10:40 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: elcid1970

“Civil war is on the horizon.”

And sunny days lie on the other side of that! Too long we’ve suffered intrusion into our personal lives. Every day is a new poke in the eye with this guy and his minions.

In the not too distant past, anyone espousing and advancing these types of impositions on personal liberty would be unable to walk the streets in the country, protected or otherwise.

They either need to back off or let’s get it on. I’m tired of the non-stop with these people.


32 posted on 02/17/2013 7:16:57 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: OneWingedShark

“””Actually nobody is found innocent at a trial, they are found to be guilty or not guilty.

They actually are found to be innocent: [1] a : free from guilt or sin especially through lack of knowledge of evil : blameless
b : harmless in effect or intention ; also : candid
c : free from legal guilt or fault; also : lawful

Just because the standard term is “not guilty” does not mean that is substantially different than the phrasing “was found to be innocent.”

I have served on several juries. There is a huge difference between innocent and not guilty.


33 posted on 02/17/2013 7:29:13 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy

Presumed innocent until proven guilty


34 posted on 02/17/2013 7:31:59 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: MinuteGal

And, as I recall, she’d given him (said favorite bodyguard being a Sikh) good reason to be angry by instigating a massacre at a Sikh holy site.

A good rule to remember for high government officials: Do not piss off those who protect you. Someday, they may not do so.

(Do I honestly think a Marine would do such a thing? No. They have too much integrity and honor to do anything like that. Now, if the usurper were put in front of a firing squad of Marines....that’s another story.)


35 posted on 02/17/2013 7:45:45 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: P.O.E.

Juries don’t look for innocence, they look for quilt. Big difference.


36 posted on 02/17/2013 7:46:03 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: M Kehoe

Correct circa 1971. Then a much different path.


37 posted on 02/17/2013 7:51:48 AM PST by NamVet71MP
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To: shelterguy

AND beyond a reasonable doubt. So even though we may think the perp is guilty as all get-out, they have to prove it explicitly.


38 posted on 02/17/2013 7:56:16 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: NamVet71MP

SOP for inauguration parades since Sadat was ambushed.


39 posted on 02/17/2013 8:03:33 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: shelterguy

“Juries don’t look for innocence, they look for quilt. Big difference.”

I’m doomed - can’t sew a stitch to save my life.

;-)


40 posted on 02/17/2013 8:21:59 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: NamVet71MP

Forgetting for the moment the discussion about Obama’s attitude towards the military, it strikes me as just plain dumb to disarm military personnel in these situations. If some terrorist group was planning an attack during a public event such as this, wouldn’t it embolden them to know that the military in attendance were unarmed, and therefore were not in a position to take action to stop them?


41 posted on 02/17/2013 8:30:06 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: NamVet71MP

A CIC who is afraid of his own troops. What’s wrong with that picture?


42 posted on 02/17/2013 8:38:35 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Am I smelling new federal gun legislation around civilian parades that includes “veterans marching with weapons”? Or, am I just more paranoid than usual?


43 posted on 02/17/2013 8:40:12 AM PST by NamVet71MP
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To: shelterguy
I have served on several juries. There is a huge difference between innocent and not guilty.

I have almost always been rejected and always by the defense. You're better at interviewing than I am. If I'm ever called for a gun rights case though, I'm going to make a serious effort to be truthful but not helpful and do so in a manner that will get me on the jury.

44 posted on 02/17/2013 9:27:23 AM PST by Pollster1
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To: Sherman Logan

A Marine friend once guarded Spiro Agnew’s hotel room door in Hawaii with a 45 and no magazine.


45 posted on 02/17/2013 9:35:25 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Venturer

Okay, I accept that. I was in the Navy and they never even once let us near a rifle.


46 posted on 02/17/2013 9:57:51 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Pollster1

“”I have served on several juries. There is a huge difference between innocent and not guilty.

I have almost always been rejected and always by the defense. You’re better at interviewing than I am. If I’m ever called for a gun rights case though, I’m going to make a serious effort to be truthful but not helpful and do so in a manner that will get me on the jury. “”

The last time I was very careful to answer truthfully yet I didn’t answer something they didn’t ask specifically. Evasive yet technically truthful.

The case involved a guy on probation. The cops did one of their no knock random searches, which apparently is legal if you are on probation, and they found a gun in the house which was occupied by various people. When it came time for the initial vote I was the only one that said not guilty. I reprimanded my fellow idiots and told them if you are going to put a guy in prison at least you could spend some time going over every detail instead of just convicting so you could go to lunch early. They didn’t like me very much after that.

It also convinced me that a lot of people go to prison due to morons on the jury.


47 posted on 02/17/2013 10:00:27 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy
I have served on several juries. There is a huge difference between innocent and not guilty.

Given definition 1.c quoted as free from legal guilt or fault, please justify that response: what is the difference between 'not guilty' and 'innocent'?

48 posted on 02/17/2013 10:44:22 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Oj was not guilty. However it was never shown that he was innocent. Had he proved he was out of the area he may have been found not guilty AND would have shown his innocence.

If guilt is not established beyond a reasonable doubt it means you are not guilty, but doesn’t establish that you were innocent.


49 posted on 02/17/2013 10:48:15 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: OneWingedShark

“”I have served on several juries. There is a huge difference between innocent and not guilty.

Given definition 1.c quoted as free from legal guilt or fault, please justify that response: what is the difference between ‘not guilty’ and ‘innocent’? “”

Innocent...You didn’t do it.
Not guilty...I could not conclusively prove you did it.


50 posted on 02/17/2013 10:49:56 AM PST by shelterguy
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