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I don't want to go to Disney World anymore: Parents' fury as TSA agents detain
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Posted on 02/21/2013 9:17:11 PM PST by traumer

Forck family was flying from Missouri to Orlando, Florida for vacation Three-year-old daughter, Lucy, was detained for further testing ahead of family's February 8 flight Stuffed animal 'Lamby' was confiscated Lucy suffers from spinal bifida and is in a wheelchair TSA later admitted girl should never have been threatened with patdown

The parents of a toddler with spinal bifida are outraged after TSA officials forced their daughter to undergo a series of additional security measures ahead of their flight to Disney World.

Nathan and Annie Forck were flying out of their home state of Missouri on a February 8 flight bound for Orlando, Florida with their wheelchair-bound daughter Lucy and their two other children.

Mrs Forck took a six-minute video detailing their toddler’s cries as she said through tears that she didn’t want to go to Disney World anymore, and is claiming the TSA discriminates against people who use mobility devices.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: abuse; donutwatch; florida; missouri; orlando; tsa; tsapervs

1 posted on 02/21/2013 9:17:14 PM PST by traumer
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To: traumer

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2 posted on 02/21/2013 9:18:22 PM PST by traumer
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To: traumer
Uh...I havent wanted to go there for decades now....


3 posted on 02/21/2013 9:20:31 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: traumer

TSA - making us safe by tormenting the mentally and/or physically challenged.


4 posted on 02/21/2013 9:22:56 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: traumer
The miscreant:



Here's what I wanna know: how could the mother film her daughter crying for 6 minutes, leaving her daughter in distress at the hands (literally, look at the purple gloves in another photo) of these ____?

5 posted on 02/21/2013 9:27:17 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: 45semi

LOL!
Is that photo touched-up in any way - ???


6 posted on 02/21/2013 9:27:24 PM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: cyn

The answer? Here’s a hint: a chance at 15 minutes of fame!


7 posted on 02/21/2013 9:29:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: cyn

Because the mother probably would have been arrested.


8 posted on 02/21/2013 9:31:07 PM PST by EEGator
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To: USARightSide
Nah...its posted somewhere called 'http://www.myholigay.com'

Mahvahlous isnt it!

reminds me of this...
9 posted on 02/21/2013 9:41:29 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: traumer
Rape the infants and elderly, but don't you dare insult People of the Poofter (Pigs be inseminating him).

Ban the queeran! Outlaw islame!

It has NO PLACE in any CIVILIZED society.

10 posted on 02/21/2013 10:17:08 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: traumer

Look, I get it. Common sense says that little girl was not a problem. We’ve tossed out common sense for political correctness. However, while I understand the parents being uncomfortable, them making a big deal over this and dragging it out for a half hour, only terrified the little girl. If they wanted to complain later, it would have been been better. The little girl didn’t know what was going on, and I know I would have been scared as a kid in that situation with my parents arguing and officers with gloves on standing there. If I was her parent, I’d tell her they weren’t going to hurt her and were just checking her as they check everybody to make sure that no bad things are brought on the plane and the plane is safe for everyone.


11 posted on 02/21/2013 11:00:14 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Yes, because all little girls should learn to submit to government employees at the earliest opportunity, no matter what said employees do to them.


12 posted on 02/21/2013 11:06:04 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: cyn

What if she hadn’t taped the episode? Her (the family’s) word vs the TSA staff? There was nothing anyone could have done to help the little girl, short of leaving the airport. They would have forfeited their entire vacation and TSA was doing a good job of ruining it already. The entire family was there and TSA was in complete control of them, as they are of all passenger. The TSA agent even told the mother she couldn’t tape what was going on.


13 posted on 02/21/2013 11:14:27 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Altariel

If you want to argue the TSA’s policies, I have no problem with that. My thing is that arguing in front of the little girl obviously had her terrified these people were going to physically harm her and cause her pain in some way.


14 posted on 02/21/2013 11:32:23 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: traumer

Terrorists come in all shapes and sizes. You can pack a lot of C-4 in to a stuffed bunny.


15 posted on 02/21/2013 11:33:29 PM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: traumer

Terrorists come in all shapes and sizes. You can pack a lot of C-4 in to a stuffed bunny.


16 posted on 02/21/2013 11:33:43 PM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: traumer

The TSA are a bunch of failed chicken fryers. How can you expect them to competently secure an airport?


17 posted on 02/21/2013 11:35:51 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: EDINVA

I don’t find any easy answer to this. I may well have gotten myself arrested had I been in that situation.

Still, had the parents prepared themselves and their 3 children for this experience? Surely they are not so naive! This is not the first time this has happened (eg, 11 months ago, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl8mjVFnk00 ) The screening info is (acc article) on the TSA website, ‘passengers who can neither stand nor walk will be screened by a thorough patdown while they remain seated.’

//Mrs Forcks responds: ‘You can’t touch my daughter unless I can record it,’ and later adds [half talking to herself, realizing how wrong this is]: ‘The problem is, I don’t allow anyone to touch my little daughter.’//


18 posted on 02/21/2013 11:51:40 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: USARightSide

you say “LOL. Is that photo touched-up in any way”

??????????????
Yeah - it’s real funny - watch the video. the mother tried to keep her voice calm so as not to tramatize the poor little girl more -
I’m glad she wasn’t intimidated into not videoing - 20 minutes of this travesty. Yeah - real funny

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2281769/Parents-fury-TSA-detains-wheelchair-bound-daughter-3-theyre-trying-fly-Disney-World-family-vacation.html?ICO=most_read_module


19 posted on 02/22/2013 1:10:10 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: maine-iac7; USARightSide
I think they were replying to the photo of the presumably gay guys in Micky Mouse attire.
20 posted on 02/22/2013 1:23:37 AM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: cyn

Guess you haven’t flown lately. Any attempt by Mom to assist her persecuted child would’ve resulted in her arrest, and the entire family subjected to even worse treatment. These sadistic TSA people are the worst among us, and have the most power to impact citizens’ lives on a day-to-day level. We’re being primed to STFU when “they” come to our doors. Apparently, it’s working, since nobody stepped in to help the kid.

Maybe the mom’s video will have more long-term impact than any other action she’d have taken. These are the things libs need to see. Aren’t they for “the children”, after all?


21 posted on 02/22/2013 3:08:57 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: 21twelve; maine-iac7

Yep, replying to post 3.
The little girl’s picture is in post 5.

Your eyes must have skipped ahead.
For a minute I couldn’t figure what I had done - - -


22 posted on 02/22/2013 3:32:41 AM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: 45semi

Sure they aren’t in a Christmas Parade somewhere - ??? : )


23 posted on 02/22/2013 3:36:21 AM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: traumer

From the posts in this thread....we can easily tell which folks will be the ones willing to march to their internment camps.....and which ones will be taking out the Jackboots along the way.

TSA needs to be disbanded. They are just there to terrorize citizens


24 posted on 02/22/2013 4:51:36 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Pinkbell

And where do you propose a three year old girl should have gone while the TSA agents and the parents had a discussion?

Why do you want a three year old girl to feel safe when government agents want to inappropriately touch a prepubescent child?

If you, an adult, choose to submit to that treatment, that is your decision.

The child was upset because of what the government employees did to her—what sane adult takes a child’s stuffed toy? What sane adult inappropriately touches a child’s genitals? The kid knows she wasn’t seeing the doctor or getting a diaper change.

Notice how the government employee squawks in indignation when Mommy videotapes the scene-—they wouldn’t object to videotaping if they didn’t feel guilt at what they were doing to a preschooler.


25 posted on 02/22/2013 5:41:56 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: MayflowerMadam
Not sure why you would conclude that. I have not , however flown recently with anyone in a wheelchair. That is why I said I could well have gotten myself arrested in my next post.
26 posted on 02/22/2013 6:16:35 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: Pinkbell; AppyPappy

Interestingly, a father handled the same INTRUSIVE, WRONG-HEADED situation with his 3 year old son quite differently.
27 posted on 02/22/2013 7:13:25 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: BigCinBigD
>" Terrorists come in all shapes and sizes. You can pack a lot of C-4 in to a stuffed bunny."

All the more reason to tell mudHamhead to take a hike!

They are subversives that don't belong here.

28 posted on 02/22/2013 8:16:29 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: cyn

We used to sneak kegs into football games using a wheelchair.


29 posted on 02/22/2013 8:29:08 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: BigCinBigD

I just had this image of a Muslim in a dress with an obvious AK-47 under it and he is saying to the TSA agent as he walks through “Check her tires. They can hide drugs in them”.


30 posted on 02/22/2013 8:31:01 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

Complete w/groucho glasses? What a picture!


31 posted on 02/22/2013 8:36:35 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: 45semi

Queers just do that to Disney World.

It’s not an approved event. They just show up together and rent facilities like any other group.


32 posted on 02/22/2013 8:40:56 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: cyn

The family has three young children, including one who is severely disabled. There’s not a lot of time for reading websites or much of anything else! I’m going to assume anyone questioning the parents has had the good fortune not to have raised a disabled child. It is a 24/7 job all by itself.

In this case, the family had already cleared the screening; it was only an overzealous agent who decided the little girl looked like a terror threat who required further scrutiny.

It’s as if these agent have NO sense of judgment. One of my adult sons is traveling next month from VA to GA and chose to travel by train rather than deal with TSA. That despite the air fare being less than Amtrak and the time being about 1/3 by air.


33 posted on 02/22/2013 8:56:40 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

tsa spread is extending to amtrack, unfortunately.

I hear you on time factor. It’s just unforetunate if in all the details they had to tend to to put this trip together they neglected this critical point.

The video I reference above gives alternate process, including “Kinda weird, isn’t it, buddy?” and I imagine a later age-appropriate discussion w/their children about government intrusion. (Side point, thank God for fathers and their input into their children’s lives.)


34 posted on 02/22/2013 9:26:51 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: Pinkbell

You and yours can go before me into the cattle cars to prove that they’re safe! Thanks. I’ll pass!


35 posted on 02/22/2013 9:27:30 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: cyn

tsa spread is extending to amtrack, unfortunately.

_______________

Why?


36 posted on 02/22/2013 10:45:45 AM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chickensoup

Because it’s an agency of the agenda-driven increasingly intrusive and controlling socialist federal govt. But that’s just my guess.

Src amtrack+tsa or fr keyword “tsa”; incl > http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2968253/posts


37 posted on 02/22/2013 12:01:48 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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