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To: Shery; amom; Alamo-Girl; DLfromthedesert; Brad's Gramma
Thanks for the post. I think it provides some very serious food for thought.

I love the “Left Behind” series (mentioned in the article) and learned a lot from it. However, I did not feel that it fully portrayed God's intent for giving the prophecies. Everyone must make their own judgments in these matters. I would not at all ever seek to step on another’s faith and calling, for I know that an earnest seeker after God will always be guided by Him in all things. I offer this as my own personal belief.

I have been reading “The Harbinger” by Cahn. I now subscribe to the school of thought that we must not be fatalistic about the prophecies of the Bible, we must view them as a warning. That is the point Cahn makes. I have not quite finished it yet, but last night one passage in particular caught my attention:

The characters in the book were discussing the examples of when God's judgment was earned and due, but there was a staying of that judgment because of God's mercy when there was a response of His people to His call for repentance.
The examples cited by Cahn are,

1)Sodom - God was willing to save it if the righteous 10 could be found
2)King Josiah's goodness stayed the judgment during his reign
3)Ninevah and the Prophet Jonah

from page 220 of my soft cover edition:

...”You see, the one who wills for judgment is man, not God. The heart of God wills for salvation. Greater than His judgments are His compassions.”...
...”So Israel is warned but doesn't turn back and is destroyed. Sodom could have been saved for the sake of the 10 righteous but there weren't even 10, and the city was destroyed. The judgment of Judah is decreed but held back, averted for a set time, because of one righteous king. And Ninevah is told of its judgment by a prophet who doesn't even want the city to repent...”

...”The message is ‘RETURN’”...

I liked what the author of the above posted article stated:

“...This is the U.S. alongside other allies that will wake up in the end.

Christians need to stop heeding the warnings of fatalists who warn of the utter doom of America. Instead, they must pursue their nationalist aspirations – which stem from the Bible – against the universalists of Satan.

This defeatist mentality is hardly Christian; God ordained nationalism and has set up America for His purpose, to destroy tyrannies as it has always done...”

8 posted on 02/24/2013 10:35:42 AM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE

Given that interpretation of biblical prophecy has been a complete failure for both understanding the world, and predicting anything (witness the complete failure of Hal Lindsey), for 2000 years, I find it dubious that some random person who can’t spell has figured out anything of value.

This stuff (along with the “Left Behind” books) is sort of the religious equivalent of porn; it feeds a fantasy of your smug, non-religious neighbors being terrified and realizing you were right all long after you’ve been raptured away, and then the world ends.


10 posted on 02/24/2013 10:43:52 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: TEXOKIE

May I make a suggestion? I did a study on God’s judgment of Israel and Judah in regards to child sacrifice, the shedding of innocent blood, and King Manasseh. When I finished, 2 months later, the whole history of the Old Testament fell in place. My Bible is the NASV Study Bible and has the parallel times of prophets and kings in charts for most books, which helped immensely. I also used my own concordance and went through every reference, reading every chapter, sometimes the whole book. Definitely an eyeopener and I learned a lot about God and judgment...

“However, the LORD did not turn from the fierceness of His great wrath with which His anger burned against Judah, because of all the provocations with which Manasseh had provoked Him. And the LORD said, “I will remove Judah also from My sight, as I have removed Israel. And I will cast off Jerusalem, this city which I have chosen, and the temple (house) of which I said, ‘My name shall be there’.”

“Surely at the command (mouth) of the LORD it came upon Judah, to remove them from His sight because of the sins of Manasseh, according to all that he had done, and also for the innocent blood which he shed, for he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood; AND THE LORD WOULD NOT FORGIVE.” (All caps mine) 2 Kings 23: 26 & 27 and 24: 3 & 4

I am a post-tribulationalist and I keep putting off my next major study of God the Avenger of the Innocent.


13 posted on 02/24/2013 11:13:18 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: TEXOKIE

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 02/24/2013 8:24:56 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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