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O’Reilly: Limbaugh Wrong Left Has Won
Newsmax ^ | Monday, 25 Feb 2013 10:41 PM | Todd Beamon

Posted on 02/26/2013 12:38:38 AM PST by Olog-hai

Fox News host and best-selling author Bill O’Reilly on Monday disputed conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh’s contention that liberals are the dominant political ideology in the United States.

“We are now in a struggle to define America,” O’Reilly said in his “Talking Points” segment of his top-rated program. “The left has powerful agents in the media and pop culture. The right is disorganized and lacks leadership.” …

The key to changing this malaise in American society is, he said, “a charismatic conservative leader” who can “fight off the media jackals.”

“That person can turn the country to the right,” O’Reilly said, “because America is inherently a place of achievement. We’ve always been that. …”

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O’Reilly is looking for a conservative messiah; a counterpart to Obama that is his diametric opposite. Or so he says. One way to start is to not be one of those so-called “media jackals” himself, I think.
1 posted on 02/26/2013 12:38:49 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
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2 posted on 02/26/2013 12:48:10 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: MestaMachine

Rush is right!!!!


3 posted on 02/26/2013 12:54:20 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

They won because we let them. Organizing Conservatives is worse than herding cats.


4 posted on 02/26/2013 12:59:00 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Olog-hai

The Real Reason Sarah Palin Is Not Running for President In 2012 (from Dec. 2011)
http://www.mi7.co/2011/12/real-reason-sarah-palin-is-not-running.html


5 posted on 02/26/2013 1:03:02 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: MestaMachine

Oh God Mesta, don’t say that! I mean just because she pretty much checks off all the boxes required.

Don’t you know she had a TV show once?

Clearly we need a severe conservative to lead us. Not some fly by night that just pretends to be...

Oh wait...


6 posted on 02/26/2013 1:11:31 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Olog-hai

The left won 60 years ago.

When they took over the shools.

They are far smarter than we will ever be. They are patient long range planners and are glad to move the ball just one yard each year.

We are all or nothing players waiting for Reagan to rise from the dead ,

We will never win.


7 posted on 02/26/2013 1:16:40 AM PST by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve. I predict FR will hate GOP Candidate for 2016 , because of his shoes.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

No Sarah, no peace.
I like Rand Paul.
I like Ted Cruz.
I LOVE Sarah.
And yeah, I am one of those crazy people that still prays she runs.


8 posted on 02/26/2013 1:19:44 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: tallyhoe

“Rush is right!!!!”
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Yes he is, and Ororo is obviously not observing the population’s swing to the new Communist ideology and the fact that he can not see the forest for the trees.
Even FOX is swinging rapidly to the left.
I am now watching it less and less.


9 posted on 02/26/2013 1:21:19 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Olog-hai
But O’Reilly has his finger up in the air, feeling which way the popularity winds are blowing, and being the closet socialist he is, he can't accept the truth.
O’Reilly, along with most of the "Establishment Republicans" just can't comprehend how stupid most of today's voters are.
The left cheats! Plain and simple ... they cheat, lie, and steal.
They've been planting lies into young skulls of mush since the 1960s with no competition in the public education system.
"Establishment Republicans" wanted to be though of as "reasonable". So every time the left came up with a bunch of request to change laws (education, enviornmental, civil rights, whatever) they would give into them with one or two request but deny the rest.
They should have denied them all, but now we're in this liberal mess because the "Establishment Republicans" didn't have the guts to JUST SAY NO !

Now, we've got to rip these communistic laws out by their roots.
Send them all to HELL !
10 posted on 02/26/2013 1:27:00 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: MestaMachine

I don’t trust Paul any farther than I can throw him. Cruz is great so far....may be hope there.

As for Palin, I’m still a cultist ;) But if someone with her ideas and determination came along that ran, I’d look hard at them. Thing is, that person will get all the MSM hate, the bias, the BS, and all the same PDSers turning on them just like they did with her.

So in the end, we are basically doomed. If she runs, the PDSers will once again join their friends at HufPo and MSNBC in derailing her because she is Palin and anyone like her will get the same.

Then they will run to support the next Romney while claiming they are blameless and it’s really us ‘purists’ that are at fault.

My only comfort is when history looks back, it’s not people like us that will be written about poorly.


11 posted on 02/26/2013 1:37:41 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Olog-hai

I keep hearing the left has won. No they haven’t.


12 posted on 02/26/2013 1:48:26 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Sure they have. But no victory is permanent. Right now they are undeniably in control of the majority of power’s levers. Media, government and public perception.

Note I said perception. I have long maintained that not enough people have felt enough pain. Granted, I thought 4 years worth was enough, but then didn’t we all? Instead, the left went further left and the right went further left with the vast majority of the right actively supporting and voting for the most liberal candidate in GOP history.

Anyone out there arguing that last sentence is an idiot. Because the facts prove it to be true.

So what now? Simple. We support what and who we actually believe in. No matter what. Principles matter. And people who think you uphold principles by repeatedly electing or voting for those who have none deserve what they get.

This mess was created over decades and there is no one person magic bullet to fix it. When enough people feel enough pain from their liberal voting fling, they will seek out a better option. It’s going to take years, not months. But we have to have a better option for them to find.


13 posted on 02/26/2013 1:57:44 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: tallyhoe
When O'Reilly said that, my only thought was "what a dreamer!"

The problem is simply that the left has reached the logical conclusion that they need to destroy the opposition and the right can't bring itself to think in those terms; it's an asymmetrical battle and until we radically change our approach, it's accurate to say the left has won since it's only a matter of time.

14 posted on 02/26/2013 2:29:18 AM PST by stormhill
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To: NoLibZone
"far smarter"

They certainly aren't "far smarter". They're more devious, that's for sure, but definitely not smarter. Not as smart...unless you count criminal cunning as a kind of intelligence

15 posted on 02/26/2013 2:32:52 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Olog-hai

O’Reilly enables the left...he and his Harvard buds are all fellow travelers. Rush is past his expiration date...he has been cowed by threats from the left. We need men and women of courage with SOLUTIONS to our problems. I’m not sure there are any.


16 posted on 02/26/2013 2:37:40 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: NoLibZone
The left won 60 years ago. When they took over the schools.

As long as teachers/faciitators have access to OUR children; our situation will get worse and worse.

17 posted on 02/26/2013 2:50:01 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Olog-hai

O’Reilly must be basing all this on his liberal background....


18 posted on 02/26/2013 2:51:38 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Olog-hai

Our country is DOOMED because we have killed 55 MILLION BABIES and the Liberals want MORE and MORE and MORE and get ELECTED on their DEAD LIFELESS BODIES......we are DOOMED.


19 posted on 02/26/2013 3:25:53 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Olog-hai

NewsMax’s Todd Beamon kiss up to Fox’s Bill O’Reilly demonstrates the problem conservatives have with media. If you want to get anywhere in this business kick the top dog’s tires (Limbaugh) who knows you might get called up as a guest shot for two minutes on their show .


20 posted on 02/26/2013 3:37:43 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: Olog-hai

Not Yet Oreilly says,right now the Battle for the Message is taking place,If the Republicans get spending cuts and the economy improves they can ride that,If Obama wins and gets his tax increases and the Media continues to lie for him and tell the American People that the economy is improving ,Obama wins and he will succeed in his goal of fundementally Transforming the United States as we Careen off the Cliff to total economic collapse and Obama gets to rebuild the Country in his image


21 posted on 02/26/2013 3:37:56 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sort of Like the Normal German in the 30s who saw this Guy Hitler running around,Some thought he was a Nut others loved the Guy. Once he got going there was no stopping him and How Many Millions Died? History does repeat itself


22 posted on 02/26/2013 3:42:02 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer

Indeed it does. People wondering how so many of histories tyrants came to power need only look around them. Nothing new under the sun. But buy can modern man come up with creative excuses denying it.

I think the words “That’ll never happen here” have been spoken by people in pretty much all conquered/ruined societies.


23 posted on 02/26/2013 3:48:06 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: freekitty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI


24 posted on 02/26/2013 3:50:21 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: who knows what evil?

Look at Mass. where they have passed rules permitting 6 year olds to change gender in school, and the parents are NOT to be told. And no one marches on anything to stop it.


25 posted on 02/26/2013 4:42:58 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Olog-hai
Rush is right! (as usual)
Ted Knight is wrong! (as usual)

The disUnited States is now a socialist country. After they gut the Second Amendment, they will go after the other nine Bill of Rights. Once the Bill of Rights is removed from the Constitution, they will have their dictatorship. The nation is fast moving in that direction with their Political Correct speech and the other Washington dictates. Thank God, I only have a few years left on this earth and I still have memories of the the wonderful country that is no more.

26 posted on 02/26/2013 5:22:22 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Olog-hai

Limbaugh is right... the left did win. What evidence is there that suggests they didn’t?


27 posted on 02/26/2013 5:50:18 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Tupelo
Thank God, I only have a few years left on this earth and I still have memories of the the wonderful country that is no more.

Same here... we had a great run though, no? That Reagan era was the best in my life.

28 posted on 02/26/2013 5:51:51 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I think the words “That’ll never happen here” have been spoken by people in pretty much all conquered/ruined societies.

I agree.. and the careful incrementalism the left has used to institute these changes has laid the groundwork for Americans to be softened into some sullen false ideation that somehow the country will emerge stronger. It won't, because the forces that control events want this country destroyed.

29 posted on 02/26/2013 5:56:17 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: ScottinVA

How about growing up in the 40s and 50s? Now, those were great days.


30 posted on 02/26/2013 5:59:41 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: who knows what evil?

But why is that? Are we so ineffectual as parents that Conservatives cannot, from the time their children are small, teach them conservative ideals, teach about liberalism and what is wrong with it? i don’t buy this bunk about our children being corrupted by public schools. Mine haven’t been. Granted they have all gone to private schools, but that doesn’t guarantee that the teachers are conservative by any stretch. My son is at Syracuse University, walking around wearing a Don’t Tread on Me NRA tshirt. I sent it to him and he LOVED it. i said it’s going to cause a stir up there and he said I hope so! Conservatives have to stop blaming others for our plight and take the initiative and TEACH our kids what is what. My husband and i have done it and i am not sympathetic to anyone who whines about public schools. you can send your kids ANYWHERE so long as you are teaching them at home what is what.


31 posted on 02/26/2013 6:06:45 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: AlexW

Same here. Fox has become unwatchable. I simply cannot stand to see whatever leftist moron they have on, screaming over the conservative, insisting that Obama is a god and that we are heartless, stupid monsters. Enough. We now watch TV news selectively, local news only.


32 posted on 02/26/2013 6:20:27 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: NoLibZone
The left won 60 years ago. When they took over the shools.

I recently posted a challenge on facebook. I asked if any high school students or recent college grads could answer the following questions:

1) Can you quote Nathan Hale?

2)Give the location and signifance of the Old North Church.

3) Give the location and signifance of Lexington and Concord.

I was not even surprised at the number of people that could not answer these simple questions about our history. Even my 50 year old daughter with a masters degree and a CPA and my 22 year old granddaughter with 2 degrees and is a conservative could not answer those questions.

A seventh grade teacher from Arizona replied that she could answer the questions but she is required by the state to teach U.S. history beginning with the civil war and ending with the great depression. I don't know if every state has the same requirements.

It finally dawned on me why they teach U.S. history that way.

The evil white slaveowners were defeated and the evil white capitalists caused the great depression. Therefore the thing that is bad about America is the evil white man.

33 posted on 02/26/2013 6:29:58 AM PST by saminfl
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To: xsmommy
I don’t buy this bunk about our children being corrupted by public schools.

Wow. A generation of young adults running around embracing socialism, the sodomite agenda, global warming...where did they pick that up? Their parents? Where did they learn to despise Christianity? Why is the current generation so ignorant of history? Why can't they even spell? They can't make change without a calculator. You take YOUR example of success and hold it up as a standard for all else? I agree you CAN send your kids anywhere but most aren't going to do it. In the process; schools indoctrinate our children, and we lose our country. By the way...have your son avoid Jim Boeheim...big-time gun grabber.

34 posted on 02/26/2013 7:13:55 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

My husband graduated from SU undergrad and law school and has several weapons that Boeheim has not grabbed ;). Boeheim needs to concentrate on his basketball team who can’t seem to WIN and were humiliated on Saturday by the faux Catholic G’town Hoyas in front of a crowd of 35K. Yes, i fault Conservatives for not schooling their children in Conservatism, REGARDLESS of where they are educated. The rest of the populace, who cares. But Conservatives need to raise their children knowing the evil of Liberalism. Not everyone has the wherewithal to homeschool full time or to pay for a private Christian education, but EVERYONE can assume their responsibility to make sure they know WHY we are conservative and why liberals are wrong and flat out evil.


35 posted on 02/26/2013 7:34:52 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
The rest of the populace, who cares.

Including the ones who VOTE?

...but EVERYONE can assume their responsibility to make sure they know WHY we are conservative and why liberals are wrong and flat out evil.

Couldn't agree more...

By the way...PC doomed the Syracuse sports franchise when they snipped the 'nads' off the 'Orangemen' and transfered them into the 'Orange'. :-)

36 posted on 02/26/2013 8:01:27 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

well what can we DO about the rest of the populace? i am just suggesting that as Conservatives that we raise our children to know WHY we think the way we do. I know that no matter what liberal my kids are confronted with in school, or at a job, or in life, they are going to know why that person is wrong and why we are right. Conservatives who are passive are whom i am complaining about basically. My kids are rabid conservatives, and it’s because they grew up hearing about it at the dinner table, in the car etc. all their lives. Not just that liberals are wrong but WHY they are wrong. They need to understand the underpinnings of our beliefs.
My husband has an ORANGEMEN hat which he got right under the wire from some bootleg website! LOL! we are waiting with bated breath to hear who the commencement speaker will be next year when my son graduates. Bound to be someone heinous. Biden is ubiquitous having gone to law school there [and graduating in the bottom handful], but Hillary’s large behind had been up there to speak at something last school year.


37 posted on 02/26/2013 8:09:22 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: pabianice

Screaming, bratty behavior is effective in the short term.
Conservativism is only effective when it is grounded in morality. It is never effective as political compromise.
The conservative movement MUST clean up its act. The current Republican leadership does not have a decidedly conservative foundation.
Parents who kowtow to a bratty child are raising a monster. Conservives need to grow up and demand that these bratty democrats toe the line and accept moral principles as controls over their obstreprous behavior. This starts with an end to abortion-on-demand. Killing children for convenience is the most criminal, barbarous kind of obscenity possible.
The so called liberal commitment to vulgarity must be rigidly controlled. Whether it is their commitment to destroy sexuality, money, politics, the environment or religion, they must be stopped. It is not simply the future of our nation at stake. It is the future of life on this planet.


38 posted on 02/26/2013 9:42:33 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
If she runs, the PDSers will once again join their friends at HufPo and MSNBC in derailing her because she is Palin and anyone like her will get the same.

What has she been doing lately that would give any indication she could become a serious option for conservatives? I haven't been keeping up with her. Do you know?

39 posted on 02/26/2013 9:50:31 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: MestaMachine

Herding cats is easier!!!


40 posted on 02/26/2013 9:55:58 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: AlexW

They are fair and Balanced!!! I don’t care if they are fair but I’m tired of the leftist balance!!!


41 posted on 02/26/2013 9:57:24 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: MestaMachine
Organizing Conservatives is worse than herding cats.

Sadly, I think a Reagan comes along only about once a century.

42 posted on 02/26/2013 9:57:39 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: NoLibZone

You give the left too much credit. Conservatives need to turn to God to win, or even survive. Neither liberal nor self-professed conservative will survive if God curses the land, remember.


43 posted on 02/26/2013 9:59:19 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: stormhill

Oreilly needs to get back out with the people instead of hanging out with elites!!!


44 posted on 02/26/2013 9:59:19 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Olog-hai
We just had an America-hating, Marxist-loving radical reelected to the highest office in the land. Is there any question that the left is in the catbird seat?
45 posted on 02/26/2013 10:03:42 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Ann Archy
We are certainly cursed for that and other sins, but not doomed (facing permanent punishment for all time that we will never recover from).

There are still some on here who have (unwise and ill-advised IMO) antipathy towards Lincoln, but it was his repentance (and the repentance, meaning praying and fasting, of those who heeded his call to repent) that saved the country from the Civil War, which almost destroyed the USA. There is one paragraph from the National Fast Day speech that would most certainly apply to us today, and I suggest we all heed it:
We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven. We have been preserved, these many years, in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious Hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us! It behooves us then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.
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46 posted on 02/26/2013 10:09:44 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: xsmommy

AMEN!

My (public schooled) 8th grade daughter is entering the National History Day competition. This year’s theme is ‘Turning Points in History.’

Her entry?

‘Roe v. Wade’

Her dad and I are so proud ;) Even if she doesn’t win a thing, I give her the kudos for standing up and doing such a topic.


47 posted on 02/26/2013 10:10:46 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: windsorknot

Just because the devil is empowering the left does not mean that conservatives have to abandon the power that they espouse—they have to rely on Him even more.


48 posted on 02/26/2013 10:12:36 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma
good for you! you have every right to be proud of that! my daughter's senior thesis in her private HS is on the fallacies of gun control. my son walks around SU, not only with the NRA tshirt, but also wears this there

he's on the hockey team. i asked if anyone ever gave him grief for it, he said not at all. and SU is one of the most lib campuses you can imagine.

49 posted on 02/26/2013 10:17:10 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

She got the inspiration for her topic on the trip we took to D.C. for the March for Life. I think that of all the people who went with us (it was our Catholic parish, but we had several non-Catholics with us), about half of them were under 25. At the March itself, I was blown away by the youth of the crowd. They realize the effects that abortion has had on the world they were born into. As one college-age speaker at the rally said ‘We are not the future of the pro-life movement—we ARE the pro-life movement.’


50 posted on 02/26/2013 10:22:39 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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