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What do you know about the Jeep Patriot?
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Posted on 02/26/2013 1:23:27 PM PST by 1rudeboy

I'm thinking of buying one with the Freedom Drive II 4WD package. Seems a little underpowered, though.

But I won't be hauling, or doing any serious off-roading.


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1 posted on 02/26/2013 1:23:30 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Is it a Govt Motors (Obamamobile) car?


2 posted on 02/26/2013 1:24:56 PM PST by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: 1rudeboy

Is a great ‘bug out’ vehicle for SHTF times a comin’


3 posted on 02/26/2013 1:26:13 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: 1rudeboy

It’s a Chrysler product, none for me thank you very much.


4 posted on 02/26/2013 1:26:25 PM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Perdogg

Fiat, I believe. ;)


5 posted on 02/26/2013 1:27:00 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Perdogg

They are a piece of crap and not a real Jeep.

Run away.


6 posted on 02/26/2013 1:26:59 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: 1rudeboy

Not really responsive to your question, but I wouldn’t buy anything built by the UAW. Just my personal position.


7 posted on 02/26/2013 1:28:54 PM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: 1rudeboy

There is no Jeep worthy of name but the Wrangler.


8 posted on 02/26/2013 1:30:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 1rudeboy

I bought a Jeep Cherokee in 1995. It was the first new car I’d ever bouht...put over 250K on that thing. Really loved it. Not so much of a Chrysler lover anymore...even though my wife drives a 300. I’m in a Taurus and love it.


9 posted on 02/26/2013 1:30:16 PM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 1rudeboy

Someone at work has one, they like it and it seems to be reliable.


10 posted on 02/26/2013 1:34:33 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: 1rudeboy
It’s not a Jeep. It’s what the French think a Jeep ought to be, but it is certainly not a Jeep. Nor is it designed for those who have actually bought a real Jeep.

Find a good used one pre-bailout. A Cherokee sport or a Wrangler.

11 posted on 02/26/2013 1:34:50 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: 1rudeboy

It’s a piece of crap. Look around.


12 posted on 02/26/2013 1:35:38 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: pgkdan

I have a fried who bought a Patriot and it sucked.

He had nothing but transmission troubles. After three transmissions, he traded it back for a Grand Cherokee and has never looked back.

I own a 98 Cherokee 4WD 2dr and it is awesome.

I have over 240K miles on it and it is still going strong.

I can go anywhere in the winter.

The Jeep Liberty is the Cherokee replacement and the Compass is better then the Patriot every day.


13 posted on 02/26/2013 1:37:31 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Over priced, soon to be made in China. I’d look more, myself.


14 posted on 02/26/2013 1:38:53 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: 1rudeboy

I work for a company that has the Patriot, Chevy Equinox & Honda CRV for the outside reps to utilize. The reps that drive the Patriot hate it..complain about engine noise, acceleration/power & stalling issues.

But take a look on the web, Edmunds.com..Cars.com etc..have personal customer reviews/complaints.


15 posted on 02/26/2013 1:40:42 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: 1rudeboy

I just bought a ‘13 Wrangler in December and couldn’t be happier. This being my first Jeep I must admit that I’m surprised at how fun it has been driving, even with the slightly elevated noise from the soft top. Has plenty of power from the 3.6 V6 (285HP) and it MOVES when you step on the gas.


16 posted on 02/26/2013 1:41:09 PM PST by smoky415 (Follow the money)
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To: military cop

Over the years my family has owned a 84, 86, 96 Cherokees (XJ) 95 and 08 Grand Cherokees (ZJ) and a 88 Grand Wagoneer.

I know Jeeps. Jeeps have been my friends. And the Patriot is no Jeep.

Then again, except for the Grand Cherokee line (maybe) there hasn’t been a real Jeep since the previous generation Wrangler (TJ). I’m actually considering a Toyota FJ Cruiser for my next vehicle.


17 posted on 02/26/2013 1:41:48 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: Paladin2; 1rudeboy

Agreed. Wrangler sporting a pair of Dana 44s.


18 posted on 02/26/2013 1:43:26 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: 1rudeboy

I owned a Jeep Wrangler in HS, hand me down before I started driving Honda ricers. Never tanked on me once and good room to have sex,,I mean, it’s roomy.


19 posted on 02/26/2013 1:44:09 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: 1rudeboy

Made by a company that uses your tax dollars to perpetuate the UAW, whose members may, or may not, care how the vehicle is assembled, depending on how they feel about the company on any given day.

Buy a Toyota, you won’t regret it.

(btw, I bought my last of 4 new Jeep products in 2000.)


20 posted on 02/26/2013 1:48:16 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: SgtBob

I should have added “currently offered”. There are many models from history that were clearly Jeep/Willys.


21 posted on 02/26/2013 1:48:16 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: smoky415
Thinking of getting a 13 Wrangler.

Is yours auto or manual? I am a manual type unless the Jeep 6 speed sucks.

22 posted on 02/26/2013 1:49:24 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: 1rudeboy; Perdogg

23 posted on 02/26/2013 1:49:31 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: PhiloBedo

Gotta buy American, sorry . . . or the car won’t survive the employee parking lot.


24 posted on 02/26/2013 1:50:37 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: tanknetter

I bought an FJ and it’s the best 4-wheeler, SUV, I’ve owned.


25 posted on 02/26/2013 1:50:43 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: KC_Lion

Made in Belvidere, Illinois.


26 posted on 02/26/2013 1:51:14 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I hope it stays that way, but never underestimate the power of greed and the unions ability to drive production overseas

http://www.toledoblade.com/Automotive/2013/01/16/Chrysler-Fiat-to-manufacture-single-Jeep-model-in-China.html

27 posted on 02/26/2013 1:54:07 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: 1rudeboy

Jeep Patriot is based on the Dodge Caliber platform. It seems to have at least average reliability. Doesn’t seem to be well-liked, but if the price is right it *may* be a good value.

This small SUV class is a sweet spot in the market, loaded with outstanding vehicles: Ford Escape, Toyota Rav4, Honda CRV, Mazda CX5, Subaru Forester, and Hyundai, Kia, Mitsubishi, etc. Unless the Jeep name is desired, it would have to be at a bargain price.


28 posted on 02/26/2013 1:54:36 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: 1rudeboy

The Patriot and the Compass were pseudo-Jeeps cooked up by DaimlerChrysler as low cost vehicles trying to cash in on the Jeep name.

Both vehicles are based on a Mitsubishi platform, as was the Dodge Caliber.

It is a front wheel drive vehicle (when not in four wheel drive.) The Freedom Drive II is a CVT transmission.

As long as you understand you’re buying an AWD Mitsubishi with a continuously variable transmission, it’s an OK vehicle.


29 posted on 02/26/2013 1:55:28 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: 1rudeboy

Jeep Patriot with Freedom Drive 4WD? Sounds like somebody in the corporate board room decided to pander to conservatives. Does it come with a red, white, and blue gun rack factory installed too?


30 posted on 02/26/2013 1:56:27 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: 1rudeboy

Well, the Patriot ain’t American, unless you count the UAW guys in Chicago bolting the wheels on the chassis. Last time I checked they were owned by Fiat, with parts manufactured in Mexico and final assembly in Illinois.

It’s about as American as a Maryville Honda.


31 posted on 02/26/2013 1:56:48 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: PhiloBedo

That may well be true, but the people I’m afraid of aren’t that smart.


32 posted on 02/26/2013 1:58:31 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

My brother-in-law has a 2006 Grand Cherokee / Wagoneer thing ... LOTS of small problems like ALL of the interior door handles breaking off ( bad quality plastic ) ,, my neighbor had a RAM 1500 where the dash (cracked like the grand canyon) and all the interior plastic fell apart ... these little things will cost a fortune to fix over time if you intend to keep this new car in like new condition.. His car has the new high efficiency 4.7l V8 which is actually pretty good.

Bottom line Chryslers ALWAYS have TERRIBLE resale value because they fall apart and the owners become disgusted with them and let them fall apart even more...

I’d look at USED trucks that CAN get the job done ...


33 posted on 02/26/2013 2:04:38 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)
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To: doorgunner69
Fiat/Jeep/Chrysler is finally working on putting some Turbo-Diesels into production here in the US.

I don't think the Wrangler is at the head of the model list for introduction, but should they ever make one with a manual, I'd be in line for the second year of production.

34 posted on 02/26/2013 2:06:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

2013 Wrangler Rubicon has Dana 44s with electric lockers;-). My 2007 Sahara has 44s...no lockers;-(


35 posted on 02/26/2013 2:08:08 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: doorgunner69

I have the Wrangler Sport with the 5 speed automatic, although it does allow you to select the “top gear” by moving the gear shift to the left or right. Black/black with soft top. $25,400 out the door including taxes and license.


36 posted on 02/26/2013 2:11:15 PM PST by smoky415 (Follow the money)
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To: SgtBob

I’m looking at a TD 4x4 manual RAM 3500.


37 posted on 02/26/2013 2:13:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 1rudeboy

General Patton, now THERE is a Jeep patriot!

38 posted on 02/26/2013 2:14:10 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Paladin2

Jeep sells a diesel Patriot in Europe, believe it or not.


39 posted on 02/26/2013 2:14:45 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ll second the TRANSMISSION complaints in post #13 ,, the car you mentioned has a CVT which doesn’t sound like a good match for a 4wd vehicle except in the easiest of conditions ,( Ford says absolutely NO TOWING with theirs and theirs is considered one of the better ones) , I have heard it said that Chrysler keeps the tranny shops in business ... I know one person who uses her Dakota for commuting and drives gently .. tranny needed replacing at about 60,000 miles , this was a traditional auto ... but that CVT is engineered by the same crew ... it ain’t a 727 torqueflite..


40 posted on 02/26/2013 2:14:45 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)
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ALL of the interior door handles breaking off

Must be a Jeep Commander?

41 posted on 02/26/2013 2:20:36 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Neidermeyer

The XJ Cherokee was a great Jeep. There hasn’t been a new one sold for 12 years now and you still see them in numbers every day. The Wrangler is still very capable, even with the minivan’s V6. The Grand Cherokee can be equipped to be off road capable but is too damn expensive unless you get an old one. The rest of the Jeep line up, including the Liberty, are exceptionally bad or fake Jeeps unworthy of the name.


42 posted on 02/26/2013 2:25:01 PM PST by Goldsborough
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To: 1rudeboy

I rented one once. How many rental cars do you remember? I remember it because it was a stinking piece of $h!t


43 posted on 02/26/2013 2:32:37 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: 1rudeboy

Jeep sold a Mercedes-powered diesel Liberty here in the U.S. for a few years. From what I can recall, they didn’t even advertise the option. Damiler was probably plotting its exit by then.


44 posted on 02/26/2013 2:34:55 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Goldsborough
This is on the rear window of my jeep.
45 posted on 02/26/2013 2:38:21 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Back in ‘07 I bought a new Jeep Compass. 9,000 miles later, the crap started. Only drove it back and forth to work (highway) and to the grocery store. 65k miles and $3,000 in repairs later, I traded it for a Honda CRV.
Patriot - just got back from visiting family in California, rented a Jeep Patriot. Good enuff for getting around, but it was sluggish and had the same groaning transmission that the Compass had.
You’re better off walking.


46 posted on 02/26/2013 2:39:25 PM PST by fivecatsandadog (Let's not be so open-minded that our brains fall out.)
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To: Goldsborough
The XJ Cherokee was a great Jeep. There hasn’t been a new one sold for 12 years now and you still see them in numbers every day.

There are four in my neighborhood. Including my 1996, which is the oldest one (all the rest are the 1997+ with the redesigned exterior and interior).

First vehicle I bought on my own (new - I specifically bought "early" in 1996 so I could have another 1984 body-type), and someone else will get it after they pry the steering wheel out of my cold, dead hands. And maybe not even then ... assuming that one of my kids doesn't show an active interest in having it, chances are I'll try to be buried in it :)

Not to say that it isn't problematic. Like most old Jeeps it leaks small quantities of just about everything. Currently having a larger-than-small, but not significant cooling system/radiator/waterpump issue. Leaks anti-freeze a bit more for my liking, but it's not my daily driver so I really only worry when it stops leaking.
47 posted on 02/26/2013 2:41:15 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: 1rudeboy

You might want to check out Consumer Reports. I think they gave the Patriot one of their lowest ratings. Unless it is all new for this model year I would steer clear.


48 posted on 02/26/2013 2:42:07 PM PST by willk
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To: doorgunner69

The Wrangler Sport automatic is this one.

Mercedes-Benz 5G-Tronic transmission
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The Mercedes-Benz 5G-TRONIC (also called 722.6) is an electronically shifted 5-speed overdrive automatic transmission. It is in the process of being replaced by the Mercedes Benz 7G-Tronic Transmission which was introduced in 2003. However, all V12-powered cars such as the S600 and S65 AMG still retain the 5G-Tronic, which has a torque capacity of 796 lb-ft, as the newer 7G-Tronic is limited to 542 lb-ft, not enough to handle the torque from the V12 engine.[1] Also, while rear-wheel drive W211 E-Class cars have adapted the 7G-Tronic, those with 4MATIC retain the five-speed automatic, although the current generation W212 E-Class released for the 2010 model year has dropped the 5G-Tronic entirely, except for four-cylinder models.
In Chrysler applications this transmission is identified as the New Automatic Gearbox- Generation One, or NAG1.


49 posted on 02/26/2013 2:43:13 PM PST by smoky415 (Follow the money)
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To: tanknetter
Like most old Jeeps it leaks small quantities of just about everything.

Old Jeeps do not leak - They mark their territory.

50 posted on 02/26/2013 2:44:25 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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