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Researchers claim to have found Cleopatra's murdered sister in Turkey
Daily Mail Uk ^

Posted on 02/27/2013 4:09:03 PM PST by Perdogg

An archaeologist who claimed to have found the bones of Cleopatra's murdered half-sister says they are pinning their hopes on new forensic techniques to conclusively identify the remains.

It was claimed that the remains of Princess Arsinöe IV, who was murdered more than 2,000 years ago on the orders of Egypt's queen Cleopatra, were the first relics of the Ptolemaic dynasty to be identified.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science
KEYWORDS: arsinoeiv; cleopatravii; egypt; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; turkey

1 posted on 02/27/2013 4:09:06 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 02/27/2013 4:09:40 PM PST by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: All

An ancient Turducken found?


3 posted on 02/27/2013 4:12:22 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Perdogg

I’m usually bothered by all the responses trying to make a funny on these sorts of threads, but the first thing to cross my mind when I rad that headline was “Turducken.”


4 posted on 02/27/2013 4:13:40 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: BipolarBob

Dang.


5 posted on 02/27/2013 4:14:22 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Perdogg

I would be interested to know how they can trace remains to a specific person, especially when its so far from home.


6 posted on 02/27/2013 4:15:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I was thinking the same thing. I know they found the tomb of Phillip of Macedon but I don’t think he was kin to Ptolemy.


7 posted on 02/27/2013 4:25:08 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Perdogg
An archaeologist who claimed to have found the bones of Cleopatra's murdered half-sister says they are pinning their hopes on new forensic techniques to conclusively identify the remains.

Today, Obama blamed the murder on 'those evil REPUBLICANS and Tea Party Members!' according to the DRIVE BY Media..

Bill Clinton said that he would like to JUMP those bones...'Cleopatra was beautiful, so I bet her half sister was as beautiful, so I wouldn't mind having sex with them...,' Clinton said.

8 posted on 02/27/2013 4:28:04 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: BipolarBob

“An ancient Turducken found?”

My first thought as well. We should have a beer sometime...


9 posted on 02/27/2013 5:10:45 PM PST by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: Perdogg

***Princess Arsinöe IV, who was murdered more than 2,000 years ago on the orders of Egypt’s queen Cleopatra,****

This is not new news. It was on a TV program about a year or two ago. It was believed that the Princess was actually killed on the orders of Augustus Caesar to destroy any claims to the Egyptian throne.


10 posted on 02/27/2013 5:11:35 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: Perdogg

FINALLY!.. whew, thats a load, I thought that we could wait 3000 years as usual, still waiting for Vince Foster, JFK, checking watch.. :)


11 posted on 02/27/2013 5:13:31 PM PST by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Her last words, “kiss my asp.”
12 posted on 02/27/2013 5:15:29 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Perdogg

Contrary to popular belief, I didn’t do it. I have an alibi.


13 posted on 02/27/2013 5:18:03 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: ExCTCitizen; Lazamataz

She may be out of his “age bracket.” I think the South American mummy he was hitting on was a couple thousand years older. But then, he’d hit Monica Lewinski, so maybe he’s like Laz and will hit anything.


14 posted on 02/27/2013 5:21:27 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty
*** But then, he’d hit Monica Lewinski, ***

About forty five years ago I read an interesting book about Cleopatra and how she controlled Roman officers. According to the historians, she gave Caesar and the top command Monica Lewenski treatments. Same for Mark Anthony

She believed she was “stealing their power”.

15 posted on 02/27/2013 5:48:43 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Arsinoe was killed on the orders of Mark Antony, the triumvir controlling the East, to please her sister Cleopatra, in 41 BC.

Octavian didn’t get control of this region till about 10 years later.


16 posted on 02/27/2013 5:50:09 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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From the topic "Disaster That Struck The Ancients", a fine bunch o' topics from the "ancientegypt", "egypt", and "cleopatra" keywords:
17 posted on 02/27/2013 6:13:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Perdogg

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Perdogg.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


18 posted on 02/27/2013 6:14:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Perdogg

if they dig further, they’ll find remains of a ancient Maury Povich stage set. “I Killed My Half-Sistah”


19 posted on 02/27/2013 6:19:06 PM PST by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: Sherman Logan

Cleopatra and Anthony could be real bast*rds when they had to be—that went with the territory of being a ruler (still is—if you doubt this just ask Princess Diana—but you might need a Ouija Board). I think that the great game they were playing forced them to do in this young woman—they lost the power struggle with Octavian/Augustus Caesar or a whole different Roman Empire might have existed—one with more of an Egyptian Flavor —one that might have not forced the Jews into rebellion, maybe one where Jesus didn’t threaten things??? What might have been if Cleopatra hadn’t fled at Actium?


20 posted on 02/28/2013 4:55:36 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Cleopatra and Anthony could be real bast*rds when they had to be—that went with the territory of being a ruler (still is—if you doubt this just ask Princess Diana—but you might need a Ouija Board). I think that the great game they were playing forced them to do in this young woman—they lost the power struggle with Octavian/Augustus Caesar or a whole different Roman Empire might have existed—one with more of an Egyptian Flavor —one that might have not forced the Jews into rebellion, maybe one where Jesus didn’t threaten things??? What might have been if Cleopatra hadn’t fled at Actium? Egyptian Flavor? Hardly? Egypt under Ptolemaic rule was more like a Greco-Roman flavor then Egyptian, heck Greek was even the official language of the country under Ptolemy rule cause the Ptolemies didn't even bother to learn Egyptian. Egyptians and Jews weren't anymore thrilled about their Hellenistic overloads then they were about the Romans who came later. Ptolemy IV Philopater and Ptolemy V Epiphanes both hated the Jews. They persecuted Jews for about 40 years during their reigns and they desecrated their temples. The Ptolemy’s and the other Hellenistic Dynasty in that area the Seleucuns fought against each other over territory and many times Egyptian and Jewish people were caught up in the crossfire. The Jewish people were finally glad to be rid of the Ptolemy’s after the Seleucuns took over in Judea but they didn’t fare much better under their rule either.

As far as Arsinoe goes, those aren't the bones of Arsinoe. The remains are far too young to be of the Ptolemaic Princess. Also don't be fooled. She was as rutheless as all other Ptomelies were. That family was made up of all power-crazed megalomaniacs right down to the last of them.

21 posted on 03/13/2013 6:30:20 PM PDT by apro
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To: Perdogg

A week or so ago I picked up the Liz Taylor “Cleopatra” on BluRay — always has been a better-looking than better-sounding movie (the script is kinda awful) but the transfer is eye-popping.


22 posted on 06/16/2013 2:21:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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