The nuclear reactor in your basement

Vortex-L ^ | Thu. 21 Feb 2013 10:15:58 -0800 | Mark Gibbs

[Kevmo]

Your position is being whittled down to claiming that a scientist at the Chinese Academy of Science cannot count. Your skepticism is utterly ridiculous.

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[B4Ranch]

I see the usual skeptics all running in small circles. Thanks for the article.

[count-your-change]

I don’t care whether he, also He, can count or not, it’s you who keep tossing that figure out as though it means something.

I’ll put my “nuclear reactor” right next to the anti-gravity boots and Big Foot pictures in the basement.

[Kevmo]

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[B4Ranch]

You’re welcome Kev. LOL That’s what the bumps are for.

[Kevmo]

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[Kevmo]

oops, I replied to the wrong post.

[ZX12R]

I’ll put my “nuclear reactor” right next to the anti-gravity boots and Big Foot pictures in the basement.

You'll be able to buy a pair of anti-gravity boots, before LENR (cold fusion) will ever makes a hot cup of coffee.

[count-your-change]

Thanks for providing the humor.

[Kevmo]

You’re welcome.

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[Kevmo]

In his rush to insult LENR, he threw out half of the fundamental forces in nature. That truly is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

[count-your-change]

Skepticism is a highly under rated virtue.
Recall the story of Turk, the chess playing machine.

[Moonman62]

companies such as National Instruments, STMicro, Toyota, Mitsubishi and 14,700 replications.

The founder of NI is eccentric, as they say of crazy people with money. The company itself is not so hot on cold fusion. Supposedly, the car companies have been tinkering for nearly 15 years and haven't made a dime on their cold fusion claims. And 14,700 sightings of the Chupacabra doesn't make it real.

[Kevmo]

Only one replication makes it real. If the Chupacabra evidence were published in hundreds of peer reviewed science articles, its existence would not be questioned other than by skeptopaths, like those who think the moon landing was faked.

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[Pan_Yan]

Thanks for posting. I don't have an opinion one way or the other but as an ex navy nuke I have a passing interest.

These threads always remind me of the "witch > duck" scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail and I always enjoy reading them.

[exDemMom]

I can't seem to expend more energy than what it takes to get me going;) Mrs. outofsalt has been working on this for some time and has not yet resolved the engineering issues.

Typically, the amount of energy required to get you going (the activation energy, or E_act) is far higher than the amount needed to keep you going. This E_act can be decreased through the use of a catalyst. Obviously, Mrs. outofsalt merely needs to apply the proper catalyst.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Typically, the amount of energy required to get you going (the activation energy, or Eact) is far higher than the amount needed to keep you going. This Eact can be decreased through the use of a catalyst. Obviously, Mrs. outofsalt merely needs to apply the proper catalyst."

True in many cases of both chemistry and physics, but not necessarily so in LENR.

There have been cases with gas-loaded systems in which the LENR reaction HAS STARTED SPONTANEOUSLY without a long induction phase or high energy startup conditions. I believe that was done by either Miles or Miley (too many sound-alike names in the LENR business) in a zirconia-palladium-deuterium matrix.

And the induction time has been getting shorter and shorter as knowledge has been gained, even for electrolysis-based systems. Co-deposition of palladium and deuterium has sped things up a lot. and increased the percentage of successful (excess heat generating) runs.

Read Beaudette's book yet???

[Lazamataz]

[exDemMom]

True in many cases of both chemistry and physics, but not necessarily so in LENR.

Actually, I was talking about the E_act needed to get Mr. outofsalt going. I wasn't referring to LENR.

No, I did not read that book. I read the reviews of it, and the description. I was not convinced that I need to do any further reading on it.

[Wonder Warthog]

"No, I did not read that book. I read the reviews of it, and the description. I was not convinced that I need to do any further reading on it."

I have to wonder where you read those reviews??

I'm a very qualified scientific professional, and the quality of the book's coverage was excellent. One of the best "accessible to the educated layman" books I have read in forty years of science practice. He covers the experimental evidence in sufficient depth to make the "science case" to both the educated layman and the science professional, and no more. Which is very different from Storm's book and the LENR/CANR library of publications, which can overwhelm with detail.

And for lurkers, if you really want to get "up to speed" on LENR that is the progression I would recommend. Read Beaudette first, then Storms, and then dig into the LENR/CANR papers from there.

No need to buy the books, just ask your public library to borrow them from another library. It takes a few days, but well worth it.

But I think, at bottom, your attitude is "my mind is made up....don't confuse me with facts". Which basically puts you in the "pseudoscientist" class, despite all the noises you make here about your science qualifications. Sort of like Robert Parks, who refuses to look at ANY LENR papers, but "just knows" it's all just bad science.

For shame!