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Many Scientists Now Believe Humans Are Causing Some Earthquakes [Anti-fracking hysteria]
CBSLA.com) ^ | February 28, 2013 12:39 AM | Randy Paige

Posted on 02/28/2013 11:27:04 AM PST by BenLurkin

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Earthquakes are part of living in California.

But Randy Paige, reporting for CBS2 and KCAL9, says Mother Nature might not be solely to blame for the Earth’s shaking.

Many scientists are concerned with fracking — the use of hydraulics to get gas and oil out of the ground — and suggest the practice might be responsible for increased seismic activity.

“We call this induced seismicity,” says US Geological Survey Seismologist Lucy Jones.

She says earthquakes can be triggered when waste water, used in the hydraulic process is disposed of by injecting the water deep into the Earth.

The process, she believes, touched off a 5.6 magnitude quake in Oklahoma, a 5.0 in Colorado, 1 4.8 in Wyoming and a 4.0 in January of last year.

“It’s very clear cut that disposing of waste fluids at depth can and does set off earthquakes,” Jones said.

Paige asks Jones what the process of fracking would mean to California. Simple, says Jones. “Our hypothesis would be that we could set off earthquakes.”

She also believes that the quakes set off in California would be more severe — our faults are larger and deeper.

Oil industry spokesperson Dave Quast says waste water from fracking has been done in California — for decades — with no known quakes triggered by the process.

He believes it is because less water has to be used here to produce oil. “In the east in a hydraulic fracturing operation there might be five million or more gallons of water used. Here in California, it might be a small percentage of that. It might be closer to 115 or 120,000 gallons of water,” Quast said.

Oil industry watchdog Judy Dugan is dubious. “We can’t depend on the word of oil companies.”

Jessica Black and her newborn live directly behind an oil field in Ventura County. State documents show her area was at the center of a fracking operation.

“That’s very scary,” Black said. “I think we definitely, we need to know more.”

Jones agrees the long term impact on fracking in California is not known. “So we have proposed a study and we have a team of people who have been put together,” said Jones.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: bs; earthquakes; fracking; hyseria

1 posted on 02/28/2013 11:27:10 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
“We call this mograntmoney,” says US Geological Survey Seismologist Lucy Jones.
2 posted on 02/28/2013 11:29:40 AM PST by hometoroost
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To: BenLurkin

“So we have proposed a study and we have a team of people who have been put together,” said Jones.

Translation - Send more money!


3 posted on 02/28/2013 11:30:42 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: BenLurkin

By that logic North Dakota is going to have 7.9 EQ soon.


4 posted on 02/28/2013 11:31:34 AM PST by AU72
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To: BenLurkin
And, don't forget: fracking also causes meteorite showers, and DOOM, DOOM!

In the meantime, pay no attention to the Bernankster behind the curtain creating zillions of $ out of thin air and giving it to his banker and political friends in government; all in the ostensible best interests of "the economy."

5 posted on 02/28/2013 11:31:59 AM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: BenLurkin

It’s more likely that fart-mouth liberals cause earthquakes.


6 posted on 02/28/2013 11:32:29 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: hometoroost

Aside from glow-bull warming, I cause earthquakes now? Cool!


7 posted on 02/28/2013 11:34:08 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: BenLurkin

Here we go again.

I am getting really tired of the cast of “The Big Bang Theory” posing as “scientists”.

They’re actors!

/sarc


8 posted on 02/28/2013 11:34:56 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: BenLurkin

Fracking doesn’t cause earthquakes — FRACKING CAUSES GLOBAL WARMING!


9 posted on 02/28/2013 11:35:44 AM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: BenLurkin; thackney
She says earthquakes can be triggered when waste water, used in the hydraulic process is disposed of by injecting the water deep into the Earth.

Wrong.

Injection wells largely dispose of production saltwater.

10 posted on 02/28/2013 11:42:14 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: BenLurkin
They also forgot - that James Bond movies are at fault as well...get it - fault! Blame Zorin and Christopher Walken...

11 posted on 02/28/2013 11:43:00 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: BenLurkin

Actually, if fracking did do this, it could save countless lives and billions of dollars.

Simple question: What is more destructive, three dozen 1.0 magnitude earthquakes, or one 6.0 magnitude quake?

In some circumstances, after a big earthquake in an earthquake prone region, it might be a very good idea to relieve stress by causing a whole bunch of little earthquakes.


12 posted on 02/28/2013 11:44:25 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: BenLurkin
Okay. Some scientists "believe"....

We need a better set of data on which to decide. With so much at stake environmentally and economically the world has to make the correct decision. Cannot afford to be wrong.

13 posted on 02/28/2013 11:44:39 AM PST by Rapscallion (The people sense what Obama has in store for America.)
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To: BenLurkin

This is a good thing.

Better to release that tension building up in small harmless increments instead of letting it accumulate it one big one.


14 posted on 02/28/2013 11:45:02 AM PST by DManA
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I was going to say pretty much the same thing.


15 posted on 02/28/2013 11:45:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin

Wow. Humans can now cause earthquakes! Amazing.(sar.)


16 posted on 02/28/2013 11:45:32 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: hometoroost

““We call this induced hysteria,” says US Geological Survey Seismologist Lucy Jones.”


17 posted on 02/28/2013 11:49:07 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: BenLurkin

Follow the money.

Fracking will also cause meteorites, tsunamis and tooth decay.
Studies being funded now!
/s


18 posted on 02/28/2013 11:51:43 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: BenLurkin

A very few greedy scientists with a lberal bias think they need more money! Government come in a save them! They need more of our money to stud this “serious” issue!


19 posted on 02/28/2013 12:05:02 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: BenLurkin

SOURCE:

http://energeticcity.ca/article/news/2013/02/14/context-everything-when-linking-fracking-earthquakes

Kevin Heffernan of the Canadian Society of Unconventional Resources was at the Fort St. John and District Chamber of Commerce luncheon today, speaking about the link between fracking and earthquakes. He argues that reading headlines about induced seismicity may raise some concerns, but that “context is everything”.

“If you define earthquakes the right way, everything that we do as humans is causing earthquakes, we just can’t detect them,” he told the crowd. “These are very, very minor events that are occurring two kilometres under ground.”

A recent study released by the Oil and Gas Commission found that fracking has caused several low-level earthquakes in the Horn River Basin.

Between April 2009 and December 2011, 38 were reported by Natural Resources Canada, and another 234 were recorded by seismographs in the Etsho and Kiwigana areas. The largest earthquake ever attributed to fracking in the Horn River Basin registered at a 3.8 on the Richter scale, but Heffernan says it’s more typically to see “microseisms” in the minus three to zero magnitude.

He calls earthquakes a “badly misunderstood phenomenon”, and points out that there are millions of these low-level seismic events every year which are induced by human activity. He adds that there was no risk to public safety or the environment from any of those events.

“We do lots of things as people that induce earthquakes,” he says, like underground mining, dam construction, disposal wells and geothermal development. 40:30 “If it was me, I wouldn’t get hung up about about induced seismicity.”

He maintains that there are bigger risks to worry about from the oil and gas industry, particularly problems that occur at the surface of well sites, like during the movement of chemicals and trucks.

“That makes me a big proponent of multi-well pads, because it reduces the amount of men and materials and vehicles that are moving around the countryside, as well as reducing habitat fragmentation and pipelines.”

Since the study, the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers issued new guidelines to address the threat of earthquakes caused by fracking. The OGC also made seven recommendations, which include improving the accuracy of the Canadian National Seismograph Network in northeast B.C., performing geological and seismic assessments to identify pre-existing faulting, establishing induced seismicity monitoring and reporting Procedures and Requirements, and stationing ground motion sensors near selected northeast B.C. communities to quantify risk from ground motion.


20 posted on 02/28/2013 12:07:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Rapscallion

Faith-based science. These are the same people that laugh at creationists.


21 posted on 02/28/2013 12:08:03 PM PST by hometoroost
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To: BenLurkin

More lefty scientists infected with Jor-El Syndrome (I’m the smart one, the planet will be destroyed if they don’t listen to me...)


22 posted on 02/28/2013 12:18:39 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: AU72

These morons don’t seem to have a grasp on how deep down the shifts come from that are felt as earthquakes. Nor can they easily correlate those facts with how deep fracking is done.


23 posted on 02/28/2013 12:25:08 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: BenLurkin
Oil industry spokesperson Dave Quast says waste water from fracking has been done in California — for decades — with no known quakes triggered by the process.

Too bad. (apologies to the sane people that happen to live in CA.)

FMCDH(BITS)

24 posted on 02/28/2013 12:26:18 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: BenLurkin

Many scientists? How many? How was the question phrased? how many laughed at them for asking? Envi-ors are liars.


25 posted on 02/28/2013 12:31:46 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
Many scientists? How many? How was the question phrased? how many laughed at them for asking?

FR posters, doing the jobs that 'journalists' won't do. These are exactly the questions that should've been asked.

26 posted on 02/28/2013 12:43:45 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Kevin Heffernan of the Canadian Society of Unconventional Resources was at the Fort St. John and District Chamber of Commerce luncheon today, speaking about the link between fracking and earthquakes

LMAO! Kevin Heffernan is a comedy actor from Canada known for his roles in Broken Lizard movies (i.e. Super Troopers, Beer Fest, and Club Dread). That's entirely too funny.


27 posted on 02/28/2013 12:50:28 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: BenLurkin

Given that the amount of water used in a day’s fracking cannot equal even 1/10,000 of one percent of the amount of rain that falls in an average rainstorm, then every drizzle must be responsible for hundreds of quakes. I had no idea we were having millions of quakes per year in the Seattle area alone.


28 posted on 02/28/2013 12:50:28 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: BenLurkin
Many Scientists Now Believe Humans Are Causing Some Earthquakes

I can see this happening. For example, if Rosie O'Donnell were to fall down a flight of stairs.....

29 posted on 02/28/2013 12:57:54 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: rarestia

Could it be that they just happened to have the same name?

See here for this Kevin Heffernan

http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/person?personId=1855113895&targetid=profile

BIO:

Vice President

Canadian Society for Unconventional Gas
Mr. Heffernan is a geologist with more than 30 years experience in resource development industries, including assignments across much of Canada as well as internationally for oil and gas, coal, pipeline and consulting companies.

Prior to joining the Canadian Society for Unconventional Gas (CSUG) in mid-2008, Kevin was Director, Government and Regulatory, at a private company developing unconventional gas resources including coalbed methane, tight sand and shale gas in western Canada. During his tenure with the company he also held management positions with various responsibilities, including environment and stakeholder engagement, as the company grew from start-up in 2001 to more than 1000 unconventional gas wells in 2008.

From 1990 - 2000 Kevin was employed at Nova Gas

Transmission, and subsequently TransCanada Pipelines, where he held various leadership and specialist positions in industry analysis, supply forecasting, and strategic planning.

CSUG 2006 Annual Report - Board of Directors

www.csug.ca, 10 Nov 2008 [cached]

Kevin Heffernan Manager, Regulatory Trident Exploration Corp.

Mr. Heffernan has a B.Sc. degree in Geology from the University of Saskatchewan. During the past 30 years, he has gained diverse experience in oil and gas, pipelines, and coal development. Through the 1980s, he worked as a consultant in project management and business development roles in Canada and several foreign countries. That period was followed by 10 years in planning and strategy with Nova Gas Transmission and TransCanada PipeLines. Since 2001, Mr. Heffernan has been with Trident, where he is currently responsible for regulatory functions.


30 posted on 02/28/2013 12:58:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: rarestia
THIS IS KEVIN HEFFERNAN, THE BROKEN LIZARD COMEDIAN.


THIS IS KEVIN HEFFERNAN, THE GEOLOGIST

31 posted on 02/28/2013 1:01:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: BenLurkin
Lets call it Local Sediment Compression and get on with it . .
32 posted on 02/28/2013 1:08:06 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: BenLurkin

If it becomes a “consensus” of scientists then it will be all over with, because then it becomes “fact”. It is still only “many” so we’re okay.


33 posted on 02/28/2013 1:10:33 PM PST by liege
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To: BenLurkin
Just another example of the “hubris” of human beings.

Seriously believing that humans have the ability to affect the planet on a global level.

The Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico total discharge is estimated at 4.9 million barrels (210 million US gal). A mega-disaster? Not really. Apparently God created extra bacteria to eat it all.

“Sagan warned that if Saddam Hussein delivered on his threat to set fire to Kuwait's oil wells, so much black soot would be sent into the stratosphere that sunlight would be blocked and a variation of the “nuclear winter” scenario would occur. Hussein followed through on his threat and by the close of the war over 600 wells were on fire. But the fires had little environmental or climatic effect beyond the Gulf region and virtually no ill effects globally.” OOPS!

Chernobyl, “In 2012, the town of Pripyat, a short bicycle ride from the reactor is home to 10,000. Each year, another 800 move in. Tourists from across the world make the trek, take photographs, leave behind graffiti.” While many still claim the risk of illness and deformities, studies have shown no such risk. Tourists even tour the power plant itself. Some people have lived inside the exclusion zone since the meltdown. Plants & animals show no ill effects.

Hiroshima Nagasaki:
http://www.funonthenet.in/articles/hiroshima-nagasaki-today.html

34 posted on 02/28/2013 1:16:15 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: BenLurkin
Believe?

Wouldn't/shouldn't Scientists know about things based on data and experimentation? What is this belief stuff?

35 posted on 02/28/2013 1:19:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: dirtboy

They have also been used to handle used fracking water in some areas as well.


36 posted on 02/28/2013 1:30:49 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: BenLurkin
Oil industry watchdog Judy Dugan is dubious. “We can’t depend on the word of oil companies.”

Qui considerat vigilia canes

(Who watches the watch dogs)

37 posted on 02/28/2013 1:52:55 PM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: BenLurkin

Many scientists

Real scientists or just Al Gore wannabees? Have they hired Prof. Mann to do a “hockey stick” chart for them. I hear that he and his “schience” can be rented cheaply.


38 posted on 02/28/2013 2:04:55 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Leveling the playing field for a Progressive is dragging everyone down to their level.)
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To: Calamari

The only thing fracking causes is SOCIALIST EARTHQUACKS.


39 posted on 02/28/2013 2:13:40 PM PST by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: BenLurkin
"'We call this induced seismicity,' says US Geological Survey Seismologist Lucy Jones...Oil industry watchdog Judy Dugan is dubious. 'We can’t depend on the word of oil companies.'...Jessica Black...'That’s very scary,' Black said."

I've been calling our leadership the debt regime. Maybe it would better be described as the hysterical debt regime.

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :

  Hysteria \Hys*te"ri*a\, n. [NL.: cf. F. hyst['e]rie. See
     Hysteric.] (Med.)
     A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women,
     in which the emotional and reflex excitability is
     exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished,
     so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes
     the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into
     paroxism or fits.
     [1913 Webster]
  
     Note: The chief symptoms are convulsive, tossing movements of
           the limbs and head, uncontrollable crying and laughing,
           and a choking sensation as if a ball were lodged in the
           throat. The affection presents the most varied
           symptoms, often simulating those of the gravest
           diseases, but generally curable by mental treatment
           alone. Hysteric




40 posted on 02/28/2013 2:13:50 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: hometoroost

““It’s very clear cut that disposing of waste fluids at depth can and does set off earthquakes,” Jones said.”

Let’s see...and your scientific proof of that would be???


41 posted on 02/28/2013 2:28:52 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: spawn44

Have to agree!


42 posted on 02/28/2013 2:36:24 PM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Avid Coug
Let’s see...and your scientific proof of that would be???

Injection of fluids at depth has been a well-established cause of small earthquakes for decades.

43 posted on 02/28/2013 4:16:15 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Paladin2

It took me all of 10 seconds to search Google Scholar and find over 19,000 scientific papers going back to the 1970s discussing human-induced seismicity from fluid injection wells.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=injection+fluids+seismicity&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C47&as_sdtp=

Have you ever read an actual scientific paper in your entire life? If not, why are you posting on this thread?


44 posted on 02/28/2013 4:18:57 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: SeekAndFind

I was struck by the coincidence and was commenting on it. I wasn’t saying they were one in the same.


45 posted on 02/28/2013 6:04:13 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Strategerist

“It took me all of 10 seconds to search Google Scholar and find over 19,000 scientific papers going back to the 1970s discussing human-induced seismicity from fluid injection wells.”

It took me all of 5 seconds to search Google Scholar and find over 900 scientific papers going back many years discussing the rogue planet, Nibiru, sometimes referred to as Planet X. This proves that Niburu exists and will cause a massive calamity on Earth, putting an end to human civilization.


46 posted on 03/01/2013 2:41:31 PM PST by Avid Coug
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