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From Vegetarian to Confirmed Carnivore
John Nicholson

Posted on 03/02/2013 11:26:07 PM PST by nickcarraway

From Vegetarian to Confirmed Carnivore (Cannot post from the Independent)


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1 posted on 03/02/2013 11:26:16 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
There's no news here.
This was explained long ago.
2 posted on 03/02/2013 11:56:19 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: nickcarraway
Yup, those vegans don't know what they are missing when you cook a nice barbecue steak or barbecue chicken..

Yummy, nice tender sauced beautifully cooked ribs with baked potatoes and ranch salad where the rib meat just falls off the bone.
3 posted on 03/03/2013 1:53:05 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Yosemitest
I was just reading that verse early this evening..


4 posted on 03/03/2013 1:54:31 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
May I recommend ( ? )
5 posted on 03/03/2013 2:43:07 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: nickcarraway

Has anyone seen my horse? I swear I left it right here.


6 posted on 03/03/2013 2:43:24 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Yosemitest
Dip out the sautéed onions into a bowel

Is this from the kitchen of Barney Frank?

7 posted on 03/03/2013 2:50:00 AM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: LukeL

No, I guess I need to get some sleep.


8 posted on 03/03/2013 2:50:57 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Ohh my, come on now, your torturing me, lol.


9 posted on 03/03/2013 2:52:34 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
I've got a cousin that loves this roast, but she's one of these "lean meat only" and "drain all the fat off" people.
I don't have the heart to tell her that the beef fat is where the vegetables get all that great taste.
10 posted on 03/03/2013 2:55:44 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Ok Yosemitest, I am convinced now , Yosemitest’s Roast & Potatoes Cafe...... so when do you open your doors for business ?


11 posted on 03/03/2013 2:56:38 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Yosemitest

Does she also rinse off ground beef when she is done cooking it?


12 posted on 03/03/2013 2:59:27 AM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: American Constitutionalist
If you really want to make it good, add a small can of fire-roasted chopped mild green chilies into the onions when you sauté them.
It makes the roast taste even that much better.
13 posted on 03/03/2013 3:00:22 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

BACON ! awaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


14 posted on 03/03/2013 3:01:09 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

No, I’m too broke. I’m just passing along a good meal.


15 posted on 03/03/2013 3:02:10 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: LukeL
Probably, but I'm guessing.
Don't tell her, but if anyone can ruin a good piece of beef, she can.
16 posted on 03/03/2013 3:03:45 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: LukeL
Actually I do that when I make meat sauce ( can never understand why they call it meat sauce when they put it on Pizza when it's just plain ground beef ) for putting it on pizza or sloppy Joes.
I hate it when the oil from the meat comes running down your arm when eating sloppy Joe's, and yes, I know, that's why they are called sloppy Joe's.
17 posted on 03/03/2013 3:04:33 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
After 30 years of air traffic control, my stomach can't handle pork any more, nor shellfish.
It may taste good, but it won't stay down.
18 posted on 03/03/2013 3:05:45 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

As that Bacon Dog does on You Tube... Awwaawawwwwwwww


19 posted on 03/03/2013 3:05:58 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: nickcarraway

No matter which way you slice it or dice it, humans have a carnivore’s digestive system.

We don’t ferment our foods like herbivores, we have our stomachs right at the start of our digestive track, loaded with hydrochloric acid which breaks apart proteins into amino acids, our small intestines are geared towards emulsifying and absorbing fats.

Anyone who says otherwise is lieing.


20 posted on 03/03/2013 3:07:28 AM PST by djf (I don't want to be safe. I want to be FREE!)
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To: Yosemitest

My dad said something similar to my mom one time long ago but he took his shoe off using it as a example how tuff she cooked the steak.


21 posted on 03/03/2013 3:08:06 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Yosemitest

That’s why I use hot sauce.... believe me, it works, I ate some really exotic stuff with some Chinese people one time.


22 posted on 03/03/2013 3:10:23 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: djf

That’s where the apostle Paul got the word Carnal from, carnivore, meaty, flesh.


23 posted on 03/03/2013 3:13:04 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: djf

Well then, that settles it, makes me feel better that our dog and I think alike. BACON !!!!!!


24 posted on 03/03/2013 3:17:17 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
This is Canivore country for sure. Photobucket
25 posted on 03/03/2013 3:59:09 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Dusty Road
And this is next on the grill. Photobucket
26 posted on 03/03/2013 4:03:25 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: nickcarraway

Haha, retarded liberals don’t eat meat then get sick and once they eat meat they get better. Who would have thought that carnivores NEED TO EAT MEAT to be healthy?!

I wonder if they shared a cry when they ate their first cute little cow......


27 posted on 03/03/2013 4:07:22 AM PST by FreedomStar3028
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To: nickcarraway

The fact that vegetarians and vegans have to take a vitamin B12 supplement should tell them that their meatless diet is innately faulty. Those food freaks have told the lie that humans only started eating meat about ten thousand years ago because of a famine. Their canines and incisors should tell them that humans have been eating meat for millions of years. We are omnivores....pure and simple. Don’t eat tons of fatty, greasy food, but at the same time don’t become a food Nazi and avoid what your body has evolved to eat.


28 posted on 03/03/2013 4:15:19 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Dusty Road
And another for the grill, my wife was knocking them down last year. Photobucket
29 posted on 03/03/2013 4:25:44 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Yosemitest
After 30 years of air traffic control, my stomach can't handle pork any more, nor shellfish.

All I could do was 20 years of air traffic control, and my stomach could not handle much either after that.

30 posted on 03/03/2013 4:29:37 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Mark17
You've seen some interesting recovery waves,
31 posted on 03/03/2013 5:13:02 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Mark17

As an old helicopter pilot I tip my hat to you ATC guys, especially the ones working Atlanta TCA or other nightmare zones.

I never knew your work affected your digestion. Enjoying food on my own schedule is one of the joys of retirement.

That beef stew recipe posted above, for example.


32 posted on 03/03/2013 5:25:05 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Yosemitest
such as holding out the emergencies to get the rest of the squadron on the ground BEFORE the shot-up Huns, Voo-doos, or ThunderChief's tore out the barriers.

By the time I got there, we had USAF A-37s and VNAF F-5s. They did not do much to the barriers, but the F-100s tore them up with sickening regularity earlier.

33 posted on 03/03/2013 5:30:32 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Mark17
My first "Summer Camp" with the FANG, after tech school and then 7 months at Columbus AFB to get my 5 level,
I worked in 75 with F-100, and F-105s,and the F-101s had already retired.
My entrance into the USAF was in 78, with 4 Squadrons of F-4, and Sac was a tenant unit at Shady "J".
I retired out of Eglin/Duke in 2001, and went to the FAA for about 5 years.
I really don't like the FAA, because if ever there was a "cut-throat operation", it's the FAA.

34 posted on 03/03/2013 5:55:45 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest; American Constitutionalist; LukeL; SkyDancer
Sounds great!

Another great way to bake baby back ribs is to bake them in the oven with tin foil wrapped around them tightly.

Get some good baby back ribs and sprinkle kosher salt and cracked pepper on both sides. (I usually use McCormick, Grill Mates Montreal Steak Seasoning rather than cracked pepper.) Wrap tightly in tin foil, and put on sheet pan, fat side down. Preheat the oven to 400. Put ribs in the oven when temp is at 400. (Yeah... I know, Well- duh!)

Bake for one hour. Once the hour is up, turn off the oven but keep the ribs in the oven for another 30 minutes.( I usually make my bbq sauce while the ribs are cooking and then simmer the sauce during the 30 minutes while the oven is shut off.

Pull out the ribs and remove foil. Turn ribs fat side up and baste with BBQ sauce. Turn oven back on to 400 or get the grill going. Put ribs back in oven at 400 for another 20 minutes, or on the grill.

Baste again with BBQ Sauce after you pull them out of the oven or off the grill.

I used to par boil the ribs, but don't even fuss with that anymore. This is a fail safe method. I have been doing it this way for the past few years and have yet to be disappointed.

Enjoy!

35 posted on 03/03/2013 5:57:59 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: elcid1970

I’ve got 3 years at March AFB, mostly in the tower, but I’ve got a few months radar and that TCA was very tight when it come to VFR transitions.


36 posted on 03/03/2013 5:58:54 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest; Mark17
I was stationed up at KI Sawyer back in 75 and 76.

We used to go out to the flightline and watch the F-106 Delta Darts do touch and goes at night.

We sent helicopters out to search for wreckage after the Edmund Fitzgerald went down in Lake Superior.

Ours was a SAC Base with B-52's, KC 135's and the Delta Darts. Loved it there.

37 posted on 03/03/2013 6:02:27 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: nickcarraway

Here’s an Italian recipe for roast, and you can use either a pork or beef roast. We got this from one of our favorite Italian restaurants in Germany, when we first moved there in 1991. This is a crock pot roast.

Large roast, whatever fits in your crock pot, anyway!
1 large butcher’s onion, sliced
1 bottle white or red moscato (DO NOT SUBSTITUTE regular wine...does not work!)

1 can read kidney beans

Early in the day, place roast in crock pot and salt to taste. Place sliced onions over the roast. Pour Moscato over the roast (I do half at beginning and more later, when I add the beans). Place lid on and slow cook all day.

When you come home from work, put rest of Moscato over roast, if you want. Open the can of beans, drain and place in crock pot. Now, fry some potatoes till nice and crispy. Serve the roast over the potatoes. (You can use rice, instead, but it was served with Bratkartoffeln—fried potatoes— in the restaurant!)

It smells so good when you come into the house later in the day...oh my! It falls apart when serving.


38 posted on 03/03/2013 6:04:41 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Northern Yankee
I might try it with beef ribs, but pork is a "NO-GO".

Here's something to try, but the sauce is more costly than the beef ribs.
39 posted on 03/03/2013 6:26:01 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Northern Yankee
I had to do two years at Plattsburg AFB and the first summer only had three days the the temp went above 70 degrees.
The first winter we had 6 months the temp didn't get above 32 degrees Fahrenheit and 3 months, it stayed below 0 degrees Fahrenheit.
I went to work one morning and I stepped on my brakes to test them and it was like stepping on a rock.
I had to pump them several times to get them to work.
When I arrived at the tower, the temperature was 27 degrees below zero.
Growing up in Mississippi, I didn't find that to my liking.
It only took three months there, for me to volunteer to go back to Korea for another remote.
40 posted on 03/03/2013 6:35:53 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: nickcarraway
Vegetarians Are Evil!

The left-wingers go nuts over this site!

Hahahahaha.

If you have a website or forum, link to them with the word "Vegetarian" (It's called a 'google-bomb'. Here is how.

Copy and paste the text below anywhere on the web where you can post HTML.

<a href="http://www.VegetariansAreEvil.com" title="Vegetarian">vegetarian</a>


Or post the image:
<a href="http://www.VegetariansAreEvil.com" title="Vegetarian"><img src="http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/hitlerveg.jpg" alt="vegetarian" title="vegetarian"></a>

41 posted on 03/03/2013 7:02:48 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Yosemitest
The recipe looks great. thanks!

Yes... after I was stationed at KI Sawyer, they sent me out to the Aleutians... Shemya AFB.

I must have ticked someone off at base Ops! * Grins

42 posted on 03/03/2013 7:03:48 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yosemitest
"Eat it when you get hungry, and enjoy."

After reading that, I AM hungry!

Juicy, browned meat....yum, there's nothing better. And that's coming from a lifelong animal lover.

43 posted on 03/03/2013 7:53:44 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: nickcarraway
Well I guess this is only anecdotal, but the vegetarians I personally know are either unhealthy or have unpleasant personalities. Usually a combination of both.

It really does seem that the human body thrives on ample quantities of meat products (including eggs) and fats (butter, olive oil, lard). I am at my healthiest when I eat those foods regularly, especially when I go easy on those processed high-carb "health" foods that infest mostly the middle aisles of your supermarkets. You know, the ones with the "heart healthy" food labels.

I read somewhere that if the product expiration date on a food product is more than 30 days in the future, you are better off not eating it. The argument goes that food that spoils quickly is better for you because it is more natural and less likely to be loaded with preservatives like high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils.

Look at vegetarians in public life. They are usually miserable bastards. Take Steve Jobs. Vegetarian. Total dick in the workplace and his personal life (he disowned his own daughter for a number of years). Ended up dying a horrible death due to pancreatic cancer. Would Steve Jobs have been a nicer and healthier person if he had a cheeseburger or a steak once in a while? I argue that yes, he might have been and he could well be still alive and working on the next big consumer product over at Apple.

Then we have Morrissey, the aging rock star and militant vegetarian. He insists that no meat gets served at his concerts and throws hissy fits like a little girl if he doesn't get his way. Seems like a very unhappy and miserable person.

There are many other examples of vegetarians in public life in which the rest of us are thankful not to be like them.

However, our young people continue to be pressured into this high-risk and unhealthy lifestyle because they are naive enough to be taken in by far-left cultist groups like PETA and become convinced that eating meat is evil and something to be ashamed of.

I will never forget a family barbecue I had in my backyard about 10 years ago. I know I posted the story here before. A college-age relative of mine declared herself a vegetarian and out of respect for her, I bought some soy-burgers to put on the grill for her and made sure I had plenty of vegetables. She ended up turning down the soyburgers because she was concerned that they sat on a grill where meat product was previously and was thus contaminated. She made a big point about that as she picked at her salad and nuts.

Anyway, my propane tank ran dry and I had to go to my shed to get another tank. When I walked in there, I caught my "vegetarian" relative in there, in the dark, in the process of wolfing down a couple of my hot dogs. She was obviously deeply embarrassed and I never mentioned a word of it to anybody else in the family. I felt bad for her because obviously her body was telling her she needed meat but by that point, she was so publicly invested in her "vegetarianism" that she could not bring herself to admit to her own family that she was wrong about vegetarianism and that she was a meat eater once again.

Humans are carnivores, just like dogs and cats (humans closest animal friends.) If you try to deny your pet dog or cat meat, you will quickly see how they go through extreme measures to obtain meat. Cats will hunt mice and birds, dogs will hunt rabbits and squirrels. If they cannot obtain meat, they will likely be unhealthy and have shorter life spans. Human vegetarians who attempt to impose their unhealthy habits upon their pets are actually engaging in animal abuse.

44 posted on 03/03/2013 8:18:37 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: nickcarraway
Well I guess this is only anecdotal, but the vegetarians I personally know are either unhealthy or have unpleasant personalities. Usually a combination of both.

It really does seem that the human body thrives on ample quantities of meat products (including eggs) and fats (butter, olive oil, lard). I am at my healthiest when I eat those foods regularly, especially when I go easy on those processed high-carb "health" foods that infest mostly the middle aisles of your supermarkets. You know, the ones with the "heart healthy" food labels.

I read somewhere that if the product expiration date on a food product is more than 30 days in the future, you are better off not eating it. The argument goes that food that spoils quickly is better for you because it is more natural and less likely to be loaded with preservatives like high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils.

Look at vegetarians in public life. They are usually miserable bastards. Take Steve Jobs. Vegetarian. Total dick in the workplace and his personal life (he disowned his own daughter for a number of years). Ended up dying a horrible death due to pancreatic cancer. Would Steve Jobs have been a nicer and healthier person if he had a cheeseburger or a steak once in a while? I argue that yes, he might have been and he could well be still alive and working on the next big consumer product over at Apple.

Then we have Morrissey, the aging rock star and militant vegetarian. He insists that no meat gets served at his concerts and throws hissy fits like a little girl if he doesn't get his way. Seems like a very unhappy and miserable person.

There are many other examples of vegetarians in public life in which the rest of us are thankful not to be like them.

However, our young people continue to be pressured into this high-risk and unhealthy lifestyle because they are naive enough to be taken in by far-left cultist groups like PETA and become convinced that eating meat is evil and something to be ashamed of.

I will never forget a family barbecue I had in my backyard about 10 years ago. I know I posted the story here before. A college-age relative of mine declared herself a vegetarian and out of respect for her, I bought some soy-burgers to put on the grill for her and made sure I had plenty of vegetables. She ended up turning down the soyburgers because she was concerned that they sat on a grill where meat product was previously and was thus contaminated. She made a big point about that as she picked at her salad and nuts.

Anyway, my propane tank ran dry and I had to go to my shed to get another tank. When I walked in there, I caught my "vegetarian" relative in there, in the dark, in the process of wolfing down a couple of my hot dogs. She was obviously deeply embarrassed and I never mentioned a word of it to anybody else in the family. I felt bad for her because obviously her body was telling her she needed meat but by that point, she was so publicly invested in her "vegetarianism" that she could not bring herself to admit to her own family that she was wrong about vegetarianism and that she was a meat eater once again.

Humans are carnivores, just like dogs and cats (humans closest animal friends.) If you try to deny your pet dog or cat meat, you will quickly see how they go through extreme measures to obtain meat. Cats will hunt mice and birds, dogs will hunt rabbits and squirrels. If they cannot obtain meat, they will likely be unhealthy and have shorter life spans. Human vegetarians who attempt to impose their unhealthy habits upon their pets are actually engaging in animal abuse.

45 posted on 03/03/2013 8:18:45 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Yosemitest

“After 30 years of air traffic control, my stomach can’t handle pork any more, nor shellfish.”

Just curious, but what does air traffic control have to with pig & shrimp?


46 posted on 03/03/2013 9:20:31 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Yosemitest

I haven’t tried it this way. As my “pork steak” supply is running low (sliced pork butt/shoulder), I have some room in the freezer.

For years I have said that most vegetarians crave moral superiority but have an issue with at least one of the ten commandments.

Vegetarians/vegans lose, lose, lose, on the no animals are killed for them to eat argument too. In fact they are worse that carnivores as they treat some animals as more equal than others. Do you know how many animals die or lose their habitat every time an acre of soy or rice (not to mention wheat, corn, etc) is harvested? The mice, the snakes, the birds, the frogs, the rabbits. I will raise a rabbit to eat it, but not mindlessly kill it for bread. Some of them get mashed up the the farm equipment.

In conclusion, lets have more pasture for animal harmony and just milk or kill the cow.


47 posted on 03/03/2013 9:45:23 AM PST by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: djf

“...our small intestines are geared towards emulsifying and absorbing fats.”

Slim, Healthy People Eat Fat

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.com/hwnl_3-2.htm

Here’s a statistic to take your breath away. At least 155 million kids worldwide – about 10 percent of all children - suffer from being overweight or obese. Countries like the US lead the way with a staggering 30 percent suffering from overweight or obesity. Australia and Europe are not far behind.

These aren’t just plump children who’ll grow into large adults. These are children who look forward to a future shaped by a set of symptoms the experts are calling metabolic syndrome – a combination of conditions like diabetes, raised cholesterol and high blood pressure being found more and more to effect adults who suffered childhood obesity.

Prevailing thinking has us reducing consumption of all fats, particularly those saturated fats derived from animal sources. This belief, the ‘lipid hypothesis’ is based on a theory put forward in the late 1950s by Ancel Keys.
Researchers have spent the last fifty or so years disputing his findings and creating their own theses. One group, however, was never confused. Vegetable oil and food processing industries immediately saw profit in the ‘lipid hypothesis’, and set about demonizing traditional, and in many cases natural foods, in favor of their heavily processed products.

Let’s go back a little, before Dr. Keys came up with his theory. Before 1920 coronary heart disease was rare and most people were slim. During the next forty years the incidence of heart disease soared. Now heart disease causes at least 40 percent of all U.S. deaths. As we already know, the incidence of obesity has skyrocketed.

From approximately that same period, 1920, to 1970 and at the same time as highly processed vegetable fats were successfully promoted as healthful, the proportion of traditional fats in the American diet fell from 82 percent to 62 percent. Butter consumption fell from 18 lbs per person per year, to 4 lbs per year.

While saturated fat consumption fell, the percentage of vegetable oils as margarine, shortening and refined oils, denatured and chemically altered, increased about 400 percent. Consumption of sugar and processed food increased about 60 percent.

Who’s the villain in this story. Animal fats? Or is the villain hydrogenated oils and processed foods?
Remember when pasteurization of milk was first established as necessary to good health? Did you know heat alters milk’s amino acids, locking away the proteins that make milk so healthful?

Heat application allows the unsaturated fatty acids to become rancid over a shorter period. Heat destroys vitamins. And to complete the process of destruction, heat also destroys all enzymes in milk - the enzymes needed to help the body assimilate calcium. And, by the way, that’s how pasteurized milk helps you gain weight.

It’s certainly difficult to believe the good news food they’ve being feeding us for the last fifty years might actually be killing us.

It’s already common knowledge that natural foods can work miracles with ADHD children. If natural foods are so beneficial, would they benefit the obese elderly? Jill Engelmann, Ph.D., a nutritionist and author of Healthy Slim People Eat Fat, conducted a simple study to find out.
Twenty-five very overweight or obese adults, most in their 60’s, were documented over a 17 week period. All participants began with a full medical check-up. Health problems included diabetes, depression, high blood pressure, elevated triglycerides, urinary tract infections, fibromyalgia and gout.

All gave up processed foods. Instead they ate fresh natural foods including ‘unhealthy’ butter and raw milk. The test subjects took cod liver oil and magnesium and a dessert spoon of coconut oil before each meal. They also engaged in moderate exercise.

So what happen to these 25 elderly people at the end of their 17 weeks as guinea pigs? Again, they were given a full medical check-up. Overall health was greatly improved. Weight loss ranged up to 38 pounds. Most were able to discontinue all drugs. Notably, blood fats had normalized, something no other eating plan had been able to achieve.

It’s not rocket science – but it works. Fresh nutrient dense foods, healthy fats (such as coconut oil), and moderate exercise can change lives. This means we can overcome many of the health problems we see today and we can stop the obesity epidemic right now.

This article is based on A Current Affair ABC television program broadcast in Australia October 2005.


48 posted on 03/03/2013 10:01:33 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Yosemitest
I really don't like the FAA, because if ever there was a "cut-throat operation", it's the FAA.

My original plan, was to put in my 4 years in the USAF, then go to work for the FAA. I never did it, because I found out the FAA really is a hostile work environment. I am going to retire in the Philippines, I wonder if they would let me resume my air traffic control career?

49 posted on 03/03/2013 12:00:34 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Dusty Road
As the YOUTUBE sensation bacon, chicken, beef tease dog says... BACON, CHICKEN , BEEF ! AWAWAWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeee !

Your killing me !! lol

50 posted on 03/03/2013 8:27:55 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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