Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Plight of the bumblebee: Disappearance?
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 2-28-2013 | Beth Borenstein

Posted on 03/03/2013 7:15:47 AM PST by Renfield

It's not just honey bees that are in trouble. The fuzzy American bumblebee seems to be disappearing in the Midwest.

Two new studies in Thursday's journal Science conclude that wild bees like the American bumblebee are increasingly important in pollinating flowers and crops that provide us with food. And, at least in the Midwest, they seem to be dwindling in an alarming manner, possibly from disease and parasites.

Wild bees are difficult to track, so scientists have had a hard time knowing what's happening to them. But because of one man in a small town in Illinois in the 1890s, researchers now have a better clue....

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Gardening; Outdoors; Science
KEYWORDS: bees; bumblebee; fruit

1 posted on 03/03/2013 7:16:02 AM PST by Renfield
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Wonder if the GM crops are killing them off?.


2 posted on 03/03/2013 7:19:47 AM PST by Vaduz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Wonder if the GM crops are killing them off?.


3 posted on 03/03/2013 7:23:10 AM PST by Vaduz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
this has been solved....got this from a leftist source but know for a fact (a friends son is a bee keeper) it is true.

Bayer’s neonicotinoid pesticides, which now coat upwards of 90 percent of US corn seeds and seeds of increasing portions of other major crops like soy, have emerged as a likely trigger for colony collapse disorder.
Meanwhile, the Columbus Dispatch reports similar bee die-offs in Ohio farm country, with beekeepers there, too, pointing the finger at Bayer.

4 posted on 03/03/2013 7:29:30 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

The 90 something year old farmer I buy honey from just shrugs his shoulders and says the numbers rise and fall.

He expects the numbers to be down this year because of the March thaw followed by a cold snap. It was a double whammy because the bees became active early and then the flower buds froze.


5 posted on 03/03/2013 7:30:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

There`s a crazy late night radio program I call “The Sasquatch show”, in reality its called Am coast 2 coast with George Norry.They had a fellow on a while back that said the bees are being killed by a build up of a new class of insecticide called Nicotinoids. He was adamant that these compounds are building up in the soils and water and it`s these compounds that are weakening and thus, helping to kill off the bees.


6 posted on 03/03/2013 7:33:19 AM PST by nomad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

I am sure the gene splicing of natural insecticides into food crops is not helping. And since it has been discovered that the gene modifications are spreading through nature, I would suspect the insecticide mods are spreading too.

“Thinking themselves wise, they become fools, them that worship nature rather than the God that made nature.”


7 posted on 03/03/2013 7:38:11 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Vaquero

I figured it was barefoot kids walking in the clover and stepping on them.

Boy that smarts.


8 posted on 03/03/2013 7:41:12 AM PST by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
gotta tell ya, it's ok by me... the damn things chew .50 Caliber holes in my house
9 posted on 03/03/2013 7:47:02 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Venturer

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZZZZ BZT . . . BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


10 posted on 03/03/2013 7:48:57 AM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Venturer

“...ever been bit by a dead bee?”

11 posted on 03/03/2013 7:55:33 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Chode
..not bumble bees.

Although they look like them, they are in reality, carpenter bees, destruction is limited to holes.

12 posted on 03/03/2013 7:57:25 AM PST by Banjoguy (The Mayor of San Antonio is the smoothest liar I have ever seen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
If you listen closely you can hear the bumblebees flying .
13 posted on 03/03/2013 8:06:27 AM PST by Bratch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

I have heard on that very imformative radio show CoasttocoastAM - when it isnt being loony - that the pesticides built into their seeds (not only get to the bees but) get into our guts - just like into the seeds - and actually grow there.

Ya gotta be dumb to want to eat that GMO stuff. Of course the gov is criminal to allow it. Payoffs of course.


14 posted on 03/03/2013 8:13:39 AM PST by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PraiseTheLord

drivel


15 posted on 03/03/2013 8:19:46 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Vaduz

“Wonder if the GM crops are killing them off?.”

What makes you think that?


16 posted on 03/03/2013 8:23:15 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Chode

carpenter bees


17 posted on 03/03/2013 8:25:23 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
Bees, like other animals, use the magnetic grid to find their way around. Cell phone towers, which no one wants to get rid of (and therefore will not call them the boogie man) send out signals that interfere with the bees perceptions. They can't find their way home.

Fish get beached when the grid is disturbed (HAARP). Birds crash into each other and fall to the ground. Even the human brain has a specific hertz (6-8) that gets disturbed (which could explain a lot of strange behaviors we're seeing today).
Because people can't see magnetic waves (but can feel them, even if they don't realize it), they don't consider them as the source. They forget they exist.

And yes, we're bee keepers (for 19 years so far). Being country folks, we're not as suceptable to the grid interferance as those in the cities.
Maybe that's why our animals live so long out here. They live forever! Our cat lived 18 years. Our goats excedend their average life span by 9 years! Some of our chickens lived so long, people asked why our chickens looked so deformed - they were really, really old! They just kept going and going. (We joke around about nothing ever dieing up here.)

18 posted on 03/03/2013 8:26:03 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PraiseTheLord
get into our guts - just like into the seeds - and actually grow there.

My grandmother gave me the same warning about watermellon seeds......It's gotta be true, you should see some of the women walking around my local Meijer store wearing spandex. (the spandex has nothing to do with their condition tho)

19 posted on 03/03/2013 8:26:04 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (God bless you Tommy and thank you for your service: http://swiftboats.org/tribute/tribute.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Chode

“the damn things chew .50 Caliber holes in my house “

That would be carpenter bees, not bumble bees.

But man I hear you: Those suckers make the most perfect round BIG holes in everything wood.


20 posted on 03/03/2013 8:27:46 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Vaquero
Bayer’s neonicotinoid pesticides, which now coat upwards of 90 percent of US corn seeds

While neonicotiniods can and will kill bees, bees are not interested in Corn as it is wind pollinated. Also there are other problems with miticides and mites in hives along with a parasitic wasp.

21 posted on 03/03/2013 8:40:42 AM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Hot Tabasco
get into our guts - just like into the seeds - and actually grow there.

My grandmother gave me the same warning about watermellon seeds......

LOL. Same here!

Actually, watermelon seeds can be dangerous. They cause the kidneys to stop working temporarily if you eat enough. In the old days, pregnant women with kidney problems were given watermelon seed tea to bypass the kidneys. They were an old time remedy.

Apple seeds contain arsenic, too. I suppose that's why eating fruit seeds isn't a big part of the American cuisine.

22 posted on 03/03/2013 8:41:34 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Banjoguy; bert; Nik Naym
my bad... but those holes also lead to rot etc

there have been times i could actually HEAR them chewing

23 posted on 03/03/2013 9:01:46 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Banjoguy
I'm by no means an expert but it appears to me that the more aggressive carpenter bees have just out-competed the gentler but similar looking bumblebee.

I just don't recall seeing too many carpenter bees as a child. I was into bugs, I would have been fascinated with them, the way they bore those almost perfectly round, half inch holes everywhere on exposed wood such as wooden decks and porches.

Now, you get chased by them anywhere they nest, they return to their favored bore hole places year after year if you don't spray for them. The way they hover in place, spinning to face any movement, zooming off to bombard any insect that comes near, especially other carpenter bees, the aerial battles tha ensue, it's something else to watch.

I recall their presence becoming very noticeable starting in the early nineties here. Yes, you can hear them boring holes. That's what I went looking to find, the source of that sound.

24 posted on 03/03/2013 9:23:08 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Vaduz
I’d bet money on that!
25 posted on 03/03/2013 9:38:55 AM PST by jrd (All federal acts,laws,orders,rules regulations regarding firearms, infringe the 2 amendment)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Waiting for somebody like Thomas Friedman to say it’s due to climate change - the cause of everything bad.


26 posted on 03/03/2013 9:43:06 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RegulatorCountry

I don’t think they sting too often, I think the males might be stingless. I just grab an old badminton racquet and go to town, then spray the holes. I have noticed an increase as well, we call them ‘borer bees.’

Freegards


27 posted on 03/03/2013 9:56:47 AM PST by Ransomed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Ransomed

Never been stung by one that I’m aware, but they’ll chase you if you’re near their nests. Stand still, they’ll zoom up and study your face, then go back to hovering on guard.

The main annoyance other than the damage to wood is getting them in an overhead trellis or porch roof with exposed rafters, they’ll rain sawdust down on you in surprising amounts while they bore.

I wouldn’t want to get bitten by something that can bore into wood like that, whether they can sting or not. I bet they could draw blood.


28 posted on 03/03/2013 10:28:35 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: RegulatorCountry

I have never even heard of anyone being stung by one. I looked online and the females have a painful sting, but the males are supposedly the ones who dive-bomb you and they don’t have stingers. I just whack them with a raqcuet, it works well, they hover right in front of you. I read on line that if you throw a similar sized pebble past them they will chase it, I’ll have to try it this spring. I think they must have a good bite, I have seen them chase off cicada killers, the really big hornet looking things.

The yellow jackets and bald faced hornets are the really mean ones, at least that I have observed.


29 posted on 03/03/2013 10:43:02 AM PST by Ransomed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Chode
I've had the same experience.

I lived in Decatur Georgia. While lying in my bed one night I heard the little suckers gnawing away on my facade. I used to take my tennis racket out on the porch and blast them whenever they would hover....would up spraying anyway since they had literally taken over my garage building.

Yeah, holes could lead to other damage.

Ciao
Ed

30 posted on 03/03/2013 11:02:05 AM PST by Banjoguy (The Mayor of San Antonio is the smoothest liar I have ever seen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Ransomed

I guess I’m just a live and let live kind of guy, even with bugs unless they’re poisonous, or bite/sting. If it wasn’t for the wood damage to houses and outbuildings, I’d just let them do their thing, under the assumption that they serve a purpose in nature.

They do remember people, a coworker swatted one away from her face, sending it flying into the side of an A/C unit, pa-tinnggg. It sat there stunned for a few minutes looking crosseyed, then flew off. Now, every time she’s out there it hassles her.

I have no idea what their lifespan is, but they’ll go into a sort of suspended animation when the temp drops below fifty or so, hanging onto a brick wall or whatever. They’ll slowly revive when the sun hits them and temps get up into the sixties. Sort of strange, really.


31 posted on 03/03/2013 11:04:01 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Banjoguy
i still do the same thing thing with a racquet ball racquet 8^)
32 posted on 03/03/2013 11:06:58 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: RegulatorCountry

Oh, same here. If it wasn’t for the damage I’d leave them be as well, they are good for flowers. I wish they would stick to wood in the forest. I have seen them even chase around flycatchers.

Freegards


33 posted on 03/03/2013 11:25:55 AM PST by Ransomed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Vaquero

I’m aware of the role of neonicotinoid pesticides in colony collapse disorder, and find it interesting that lately I’ve seen a number of articles on bee disappearance, that have made no mention of those pesticides. Monsanto and Bayer are fighting desperately to keep the public from finding out about neonicotinoids. Monsanto went so far as to buy Bee Logic, the principal bee research outfit, in order to quash investigation into the role of those pesticides in CCD (and those pesticides are now used as coatings on nearly all of the GMO crop seeds).


34 posted on 03/03/2013 12:32:50 PM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Chode

I had a problem with them once. They made a nest in the exterior door facing. I waited until it went in and plugged the hole.

It was very angrily buzzing but eventually died.

Fifty caliber is about right for the hole size at my house too


35 posted on 03/03/2013 1:25:11 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: bert
surprised they didn't chew their way out...

i have rough-cut lumber siding varying from one-two inches thick on my house, i find piles of sawdust on the ground all summer long

36 posted on 03/03/2013 1:32:34 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Nik Naym

Some critters can’t eat GM corn.


37 posted on 03/04/2013 5:27:39 AM PST by Vaduz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Vaduz

“Some critters can’t eat GM corn.”

Bumblebees don’t eat corn.


38 posted on 03/04/2013 7:49:48 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

In January, I found honeybees feeding inside my bird feeder. I use black oil sunflower seeds and I think they were feeding off the oil on the seeds. Never seen that before.


39 posted on 03/04/2013 8:12:01 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Not in my neck of the woods.

Usually more of them around than I could shake a stick at!

They live in the ground around here, I’ve been doing alot of start-gardening, will probably see them any day now.


40 posted on 03/04/2013 8:19:01 AM PST by djf (I don't want to be safe. I want to be FREE!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nik Naym

Pollination


41 posted on 03/04/2013 10:30:06 AM PST by Vaduz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson