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At AMC, Zombies Topple Network TV
New York Times ^ | March 3, 2013 | DAVID CARR

Posted on 03/04/2013 5:04:06 AM PST by Mad Dawgg

When a show about the walking dead on basic cable beats every network show in the ratings demographic that advertisers care most about, you have to wonder who the real zombies are.

A zombie, after all, is something that continues to roam, and tries to devour all in its path even though its natural life is over — a description that does not sound that far-fetched when it comes to broadcast networks.

During its run last fall, “The Walking Dead” was the highest-rated show among viewers 18 to 49, the most-sought age group, with a bigger audience than network winners like “The Big Bang Theory,” “American Idol,” “The Voice” and “Modern Family.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Cheese, Moose, Sister; TV/Movies; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: thewalkingdead
Another Reason The Walking Dead is big with the 18-49 Crowd is that you can legally download each episode within hours of it being broadcast.

TV as we know it is dying out. I predict within a decade it will be akin to Drive-in movie theaters. Still used, but rarely.

1 posted on 03/04/2013 5:04:08 AM PST by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg

I rarely watch tv anymore, but AMC’s shows are absolute gold. ~Well written, well acted and crafted.

MSM is so hackneyed, poorly scripted, badly acted and so ideologically correct it is moronic.


2 posted on 03/04/2013 5:17:56 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Mad Dawgg

Is that d/l thru AMC’s own site or thru the-walking-dead.en.softonic.com/ (I am at work so either is not a site I can access at the moment)?


3 posted on 03/04/2013 5:18:12 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I watch very little broadcast TV. In the morning I watch local and national news on NBC and its local affiliate. In the evening it’s strictly cable, I tried to watch broadcast channels but there’s nothing but idiotic sitcoms and asinine reality shows.


4 posted on 03/04/2013 5:23:32 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: GreenAccord

The download is through iTunes. I have no idea what that link you posted is, but it doesn’t sound legit.


5 posted on 03/04/2013 5:23:54 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Mad Dawgg

-——A zombie, after all, is something that continues to roam, and tries to devour all in its path even though its natural life is over ——

What you read is zombie speak from the New York Times rambling on about what it sees in the mirror.


6 posted on 03/04/2013 5:27:46 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: dinodino

I just watched, “Clear,” about an hour ago on iTunes. Pretty good one.

I still wish Carl would give Rick his hat back, though.


7 posted on 03/04/2013 5:30:28 AM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Mad Dawgg

The previous Sunday viewership totalled 11.01 million. Yesterday’s totals should be released later today.

That number beats most broadcast network programs, with few exceptions.


8 posted on 03/04/2013 5:31:15 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Mad Dawgg

Loved the episode last night. Lennie Davis (he’s a Brit, too! What’s with this show! Can’t we find any good American actors anymore?) can act his butt off! He was fantastic.


9 posted on 03/04/2013 5:36:55 AM PST by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: RandallFlagg
I still wish Carl would give Rick his hat back, though.

Carl just needs to stay in the house. For the last time Carl....Stay in the house!
10 posted on 03/04/2013 5:38:10 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: dinodino

Hmmm, free you say? My iTunes shows $1.99 per episode. (And $42.99!! for season 3). Where’s the free access?


11 posted on 03/04/2013 5:39:58 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: GreenAccord

Who said it was free? iTunes charges for it. You either have to subscribe to AMC (which costs money, of course), or download from iTunes.

The only way to watch it for free is to steal it by illegally downloading it.


12 posted on 03/04/2013 5:45:36 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Mad Dawgg

WHo would have ever expected AMC to dominate the ratings?

lol.

I laugh at the herd mentality of the networks and I have never seen Walking Dead and have little interest in it.


13 posted on 03/04/2013 5:46:47 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dinodino; Mad Dawgg
Sorry, it was Madd Dawgg who originally claimed no cost downloads in his thread starting post:

Another Reason The Walking Dead is big with the 18-49 Crowd is that you can legally download each episode within hours of it being broadcast.

I took your reply to my question in the context of his original assertion.

14 posted on 03/04/2013 5:52:42 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: dinodino

or streaming - 1channel


15 posted on 03/04/2013 5:53:24 AM PST by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: dinodino

I watch “The Walking Dead” through Amazon instant video. $1.99 per episode, and you don’t have to mess with Apple software.


16 posted on 03/04/2013 5:54:44 AM PST by tbw2
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To: dinodino; Mad Dawgg

And now that I read that for the FOURTH time, I see that I was conjuring up free. My Bad. 1,000 pardons.


17 posted on 03/04/2013 5:54:53 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Another Reason The Walking Dead is big with the 18-49 Crowd is that you can legally download each episode within hours of it being broadcast.

Download or stream? For free?

I can stream, but 50% of the time it's unwatchable. If I could download, I'd do it in advance and watch later.

18 posted on 03/04/2013 5:56:25 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: GeronL

Walking Dead is an AWESOME show. You should check it out.


19 posted on 03/04/2013 5:57:36 AM PST by dinodino
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To: GeronL
I laugh at the herd mentality of the networks

Herd mentality?

Surely you jest. Last season, I only counted about half-a-dozen detective type shows based on the premise of one of lead character's family killed/held captive by bad guys.

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Some shows are so bad that they get nearly no viewership and get pulled after only 2-3 episodes. Cult on CW gets less than 1 million veiwers and has already been relegated to Friday nights. Do No Harm on NBC (IIRC) got pulled after 2 episodes. ABC just pulled Zero Hour after 3 episodes aired. Golden Boy on CBS is being moved to Friday night.


20 posted on 03/04/2013 5:59:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Mad Dawgg

Wonder if Walking Dead was pitched to any othe big four networks?

I enjoy WD although at times it comes across as “thirtysomething” with zombies.


21 posted on 03/04/2013 6:03:05 AM PST by GSWarrior (Do you think Jack White and Jack Black get along?)
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To: cicero2k
"Download or stream? For free?"

Not free you can get an Episode for 2 bucks off of Amazon or iTunes.

22 posted on 03/04/2013 6:07:12 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: TomGuy

How many sitcoms can they make about a slutty girl anyway?


23 posted on 03/04/2013 6:09:36 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GreenAccord; dinodino
"Sorry, it was Madd Dawgg who originally claimed no cost downloads in his thread starting post:"

No I didn't and its Mad Dawgg.

You assumed such. I said you can "Legally Download" the episodes within hours of the episode being broadcast.

24 posted on 03/04/2013 6:11:35 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

DVR?


25 posted on 03/04/2013 6:11:45 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Am well beyond the 49 yr old mark but absolutely LOVE this show! The second season wasn’t liked by some but I thought the themes of hope in the face of reality (Hershel), questioning if life should go on (pregnant Lauri) the struggle between humanity and survival (Dail and Shane) were wonderfully executed. None of these actors are Big Names but are perfect in their roles...damn fine TV.
I hope this is a sign for the future...MSM can die on the vine.


26 posted on 03/04/2013 6:13:26 AM PST by matginzac
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To: GeronL

If your DVR has Amazon or Itunes access then yes. I use a computer I built especially for media its connected directly to my TV and has a BlueRay capable DVD player. I download the files from Amazon and use their player.


27 posted on 03/04/2013 6:15:37 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: mmichaels1970

LOL!
Totally agree...


28 posted on 03/04/2013 6:15:42 AM PST by matginzac
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To: GeronL

You might give it a try...it’s a lot more than zombies...


29 posted on 03/04/2013 6:17:41 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Mad Dawgg
I've never been a Zombie fan, but if they take down the obnoxious Modern Family I could learn to love them.


30 posted on 03/04/2013 6:25:32 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RandallFlagg

31 posted on 03/04/2013 6:30:21 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: GeronL

The strength of the show is that it is a true drama, about the people involved. The zombies actually act as more of an overall but non-specific threat. Season 2 was both mind-blowing and heart-breaking.


32 posted on 03/04/2013 6:33:57 AM PST by Clock King
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To: Mad Dawgg
"TV as we know it is dying out. I predict within a decade it will be akin to Drive-in movie theaters. Still used, but rarely. "

I hope I'm getting better than 255 mbps by then.....right now I can't even watch a Youtube video without it freezing up on me.

33 posted on 03/04/2013 6:57:54 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Thorliveshere

We were watching Talking Dead after the show, and my jaw dropped when Lennie Davis started speaking with that accent! He was AMAZING in last night’s episode.

So that makes four British actors in WD....those playing Morgan, Rick, Maggie, and the Governor. I don’t mind at all, though, because all of them do a much better job of delivering an authentic Southern accent than many American actors I’ve seen.


34 posted on 03/04/2013 7:02:31 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I think the big thing AMC has figured out is the size of the country. The networks are always trying to appeal to the masses, they seek that general appeal, and in the process make canned often boring shows. And when they try to break out of that mold they make shows that don’t appeal to their core audience (who like canned highly predictable shows) and the shows find no audience. AMC has figured out that in a nation of 311 million you can appeal to a small segment and get a huge audience. They got the economies of scale, that even if only 2% of the population would be interested in this show that’s 6 million people, and that’s not an audience to sneeze at.

Then of course there’s the vastly different economic reality of cable vs broadcast network. Broadcast networks have much higher overhead and only get to use a fraction of the day to pay for themselves (the rest being dedicated to local content), cable networks are cheap and have the whole day to put in reruns of popular shows to get that extra handful of audience. This frees them up to take a lot more risks.


35 posted on 03/04/2013 7:14:22 AM PST by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
"I hope I'm getting better than 255 mbps by then.....right now I can't even watch a Youtube video without it freezing up on me."

Hmmm something is not right here. My connection (just checked) is 25.75 Mbps which is considered really good around here and we can watch netflix/hulu streams on several computers all at the same time (same goes for youtube) and in HD and no problems.

36 posted on 03/04/2013 7:19:21 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I’m in awe....truly, LOL.

I made a dumb mistake in my post...that should be 2.55 Mbps.

Our grade at speedtest.net is D-. Our service is currently with Verizon, and we’re looking around at different options.

We’re paying almost $100 a month to Directv and there is never anything to watch, considering the fact that reality shows dominate now. So maybe we’ll go back to cable, get a package deal and better internet speed, or maybe we’ll just go the Hulu route.


37 posted on 03/04/2013 7:27:02 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: discostu
"AMC has figured out that in a nation of 311 million you can appeal to a small segment and get a huge audience."

True BUT AMC is drawing more audience than the Networks. They are sometimes doing in an hour what it takes one of the broadcast networks 2 hours to get. Hell sometimes they are getting triple what some of the Networks get and with a smaller overall broadcast range (less households)

38 posted on 03/04/2013 7:27:15 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Yeah, I caught myself a few moments later. It was my bad, as you can see by my post 14. And apologies on the D-overload on your nom de plume.
39 posted on 03/04/2013 7:28:22 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Mad Dawgg
AMC is developing a new series, to capitalize on its current trio of successes:

"The Mad, Bad, Dead!!

40 posted on 03/04/2013 7:30:10 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Mad Dawgg
AMC is developing a new series, to capitalize on its current trio of successes:

"The Mad, Bad, Dead!!

41 posted on 03/04/2013 7:30:10 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: CatherineofAragon
"I made a dumb mistake in my post...that should be 2.55 Mbps."

OK that makes sense then. Yeah you are below what is recommended for streaming HD video.

See if they have Time Warner in your area. That is what we use. Their internet is awesome but their TV cable sux, we just canceled it (and not missing it a bit!)

42 posted on 03/04/2013 7:31:37 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: CatherineofAragon

On behalf of my fellow Christian white males, we thank you for your tagline..


43 posted on 03/04/2013 7:31:57 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: ken5050
I got one bone to pick with AMC and that is for canceling Rubicon! It was an awesome show and was gaining praise when they pulled the plug. Then they put on Hell on Wheels which I couldn't hack.

Mad Men is OK but after the first season I lost interest. But Dead and Bad, RULE! Awesome shows!

44 posted on 03/04/2013 7:36:17 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Thanks for the recommendation!

From what I’m seeing and hearing, more and more people are doing just what you did.


45 posted on 03/04/2013 7:59:07 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: ken5050
"On behalf of my fellow Christian white males, we thank you for your tagline.."

Don't mention it. :)

The last straw came when I read about some leftwing moron professor urging his students to renounce their whiteness, maleness,and Christianity. I've had enough.

46 posted on 03/04/2013 8:01:06 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: OpusatFR

***but AMC’s shows are absolute gold. ~Well written, well acted and crafted.****

Sigh, I remember when AMC had nothing but uncut movies. No ads, no TV shows.

Then they went to crap and commercials in my opinion.

Then I went to IFC. Really good uncut moives, many good foreign movies. Then they also went to crap and commercials.

TCM is about all that is left.


47 posted on 03/04/2013 8:01:54 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

That’s funny. Zombies killing Zombies..........


48 posted on 03/04/2013 11:54:58 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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