Skip to comments.Beck Asks: When Are You Going to Take Your Kid Out of School?
Posted on 03/04/2013 6:34:24 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
Glenn is PO'd this morning about the two recent school incidents involving guns, the Pop Tart "gun" story, and the Florida story, where the kid who wrestled a gun away from a gunman was suspended, because he didn't wait for "first responders."
He's been asking, "When America, are you going to take your children out of these schools?"
"I know it's hard... You say, 'I don't know how to homeschool.' Well, I don't either. But we're doing it."
There are a few seconds left before midnight, and action is required to save our families and the Republic.
I know it's hard. Our family has done it. My wife and I have had countless screaming matches over it. But here we are, 12 years later, and my oldest is graduating from HS. She's a doll, and I attribute this fact mainly to homeschooling.
Sadly, I had to give in to my wife this year and put our youngest into the gov't schools. She was harangued for a year by three teacher SILs who said that my youngest, who is mildly autistic, needed school resources.
The propaganda worked. I don't have to tell anyone here that she is getting nothing. They just put her in the "dumb" class, where she's studying things she learned two years ago.
Having experienced both sides now, I can confirm that governent school is a joke. But I don't have to tell Freepers that.
So when are you pulling your kids?
All parents homeschool until they turn their children over to the government’s professionals who overwhelmingly support the socialist agenda of the left. At least that is how they vote, despite what they may say when you asked them pointed questions.
Moreover, unless parents move their child spends their 12+ years in school with the same cohort. This is how peer pressure becomes more dominant in their lives than the preferences and instruction of the parents.
As a homeschooling dad, our child learned to interact and socialize with children that had a wide range in age, and because homeschooling parents shared education duties, to interact with adults as well.
Since a person who teaches a subject has to be familiar with it, a homeschooling parent gets to revisit topics and facts they had long forgotten. It is a win-win situation to homeschool your child for as long as you can.
The Florida story is nothing compared to what happened in Massachussetts, but everyone wants to ignore that.
While I agree, its still not enough. The schools will still continue pumping out the marxist majority of the future. We’ve still got to take control of the schools and that means not skipping school elections and state level education slots on our ballots.
My sister homeschooled her two children.
She dropped out of college during her sophomore year to get married.
A few years later, whilst homeschooling, she got stuck on a rather complex volume integration program and called me for help.
1. She described the problem to me on the phone well enough for me to diagram the problem and work out the solution.
2. It turns out her solution was essentially correct - her only error was to misinterpret the integral limits - which caused her answer to be off by one integral value of pi.
Not bad for a home schooling, non college grad mom.
Oh, the Obamadork/felon would NEVER have been able to begin to understand that problem.
On another level...
I was thinking that too often Christians think that The Battle is "over there." Afghanistan. Washington... Somewhere else.
But the battle for souls is with us every day. The Battle is at our place of work. The Battle is at home.
We can't pull the cover over our heads. We have to stand where we are and fight where we are. Don't leave The Battle to someone else.
Homeschooling often takes heroic virtue. But that's what we're called to.
We are proud to say we school our four boys.
Went to a steakhouse a while back and a table of three retired folks sent their waiter over to tell me that they wanted to pay for our meal.
Out of curiosity I went to their table and asked why?
There response was, “we don’t see children honor their parents like this anymore and are so blessed to know that there are parents that train up their children”
One of the women then asked if we homeschool the boys.
It brought tears to the wife.
My daughter has one year to go, in the public school system, before graduating.
I admire those that do homeschool...I just never felt that it would work in our situation.
Now, we pay dearly (taxes) to live in the best school district around...and literally moved 7 years ago, exclusively to get out of a terrible school district. There is still propaganga, of course - but not all the teachers buy into it, and will occassionally question it in class.
Here is some of my thought process in why I chose not to home school: I’m a licensed engineer...so I know a little about mathmatics. Yet, I can’t understand my daughter’s 7th grade math books. The reason is that the terminology of mathmatics seems to have been re-invented in the last 25 years. Half the time, I don’t understand the question that is being asked, and I have to read the entire chapter to figure it out - its very different. Now I have dreams of my daughter going to college. I’m sure this new language of mathmatics (and probably other subjects too) has made its way to the colleges. I would feel completely lost going to college, with the new language of math...and anyone trained by me would be similarly lost. In short, I’ve surrendered.
Very impressive. I went to engineering school, and I can't remember a thing about Calculus. ;-)
But I want to tell people that are considering homeschooling not to worry about math. You start with phonics. Teaching kids to read, which takes 2-4 weeks. Maybe 10 hours total. It's pretty much a smooth glide after that.
By age ten, our kids studied on their own. Their motivation: when they were done, they could go out and play. You'd be surprised how fast they learn...
Worry about the Trig bridge if and when you get there. Neither of my daughters are interested in math, and the oldest stopped after Trig, which is actually pretty easy.
Math fear is school induced, but that's a subject for another time.
We don’t homeschool, but we are very fortunate to live in a small midwest city that has an AMAZING catholic school system from preschool right through high school. HIgh school is a top 50 catholic high school and thanks to a very active catholic population tuition is cheap. They also have subsidized tuition for those who need it.
The beatitudes are inscribed on a granite monument right outside the school door and the choirs sing glory to God at every performance...oh and did I mention their ACT scores blow the rest of the state out of the water?
We are truly blessed and grateful.
I wish I had a solution. Eventually the "infinite cretid" will run out and the beast will starve to death, but until then most of the sheeple will happily pack their tots off to the State Education Centers to be molded into little amoral statists.
We did a generation ago. Home-schooled all 3 daughters and all are doing quite well..thank you! The 2 that are in the workforce get rave reviews for their customer service and integrity. The other is a stay-at-home mom. The one kid that is old enough for school goes to a private Christian school. If my wife and I ever get to the point where we can retire, I’d love to take on this generation as well!
Just gave me chills.
We were at an amusement park a few years ago. There was a family in front of us of about 5 kids waiting for a ride. I noticed how polite they were, and that there were five of them.
I told my daughters that I would bet that they were homeschooled. Sure enough...
This is how it used to be for many families, way back when.
While the parents ran a small shop, the kids would be sitting at a corner table and doing their homework.
Those of us who have our own small business can certainly home school.
Homeschooling is not that hard. I have done it for 14 years.
My kid is grown..25 year old, married man, and successful in his career (had his BA at 19 his Masters at 21)...all that to say that homeschooling deserves credit for accelerating his education and goals.
I don’t credit “us” as parents, as much as I credit homeschooling, itself.
And the reasons I homeschooled...well for one, my sister started homeschooling about 12 years before we did (her kids were older) and I saw what a positive effect it was having with her children.
But an article written by Cal Thomas, so many years ago I can’t find it online, made the same plea Glenn Beck is making today. He said, we, as conservatives, should pull our kids from the mire that is/was the public school system (and as I said, this was probably about 20 years ago that he was urging parents to pull their kids from school.
My sister’s kids, now have kids, and they’re homeschooling them. Our homeschooled sons and daughters are marrying husbands, and wives who were also homeschooled, in other words it’s exploding exponentially.
In a recent family photo at a gathering, between my and my sibling’s children and their spouses, and their children ...we counted 20 homeschooled children. So from 8 people (myself and hubby, siblings and spouses) there are approx. 20 homeschooled kids who are being taught conservative principles. Homeschooling has not “stunted” anyone’s educational goals, among our homeschooled, there are Engineers, an airline pilot, a military college grad who’s now a Lt in the Army, MBA grad, etc. Not one is without a job.
But more importantly that’s the only way conservatism is going to ever win. The tide has turned in the present generation, but if we can influence our children toward conservatism, then we are reproducing conservatives at a good rate. My sister jokes that she’s doing her job, from 2 conservatives (she and her husband) there now are 9 conservatives at the voting booth from her kids and their spouses. (and one or two of those spouses, were broght back from the dark side :) and logically persuaded why they should side with conservative.)
Okay, novel finished, my 2 cents.
Math isn't about math anymore. It's about Bill and Fred, who are on a train, traveling west at 50 mph to meet their two kids, who are traveling east in another train...
Math is still math for most of us homeschoolers.
Take a look at a homeschool curriculum, some time.
A better way to phrase the question might be “when are you going to personally supervise the education of your children”.
People are bought into the myth because:
a) they want their child to be in the organized activities; bands and sports teams, the musical, etc. Wear the uniform, get the accolades, be popular. Everyone is a legend in their own mind.
b) they want their child to be in the social scene and be “cool”. a) and b) come down to living vicariously through your kid. Making up for what you think you didn’t get quite right.
c) there’s the internal fear of the child being branded as an idiot by colleges because the child “skipped” school, when, in truth, forcing them to stay in the public school ensures that they will have an idiot’s education.
d) then the parent thinks about themselves having to be “teacher” for all those high school classes (i.e., go through the class again and have to actually know the answers). This is the deal breaker - no way, parents say. Isn’t that nice: because the parent is lazy, they’d let new world order be their child’s “teacher”. Of course, they can’t get it through their own head that they’d have the teacher guide for the materials. And they don’t have to “do” the learning - the child does that. Parents today think they have to work hand in hand with their child on every assignment. Instead of whipping the child into shape intellectually and ambition-wise, which would give them the ability to survive on their own, they baby the child, which makes the child dependent, helpless, unable to think for themselves and with no ambition or characteristic of responding to a challenge by throwing themselves into the struggle and making it on their own.
What gets me is all the countless hours I wasted in school in activities that had nothing to do with learning and served as an enormous distraction. My K-12 learning was perhaps 1% of my potential. All the accolades mean nothing to me now; they meant nothing the day after graduation. It was all a complete farce. I dropped those activities and never picked them up again. And, I was hopelessly ill-prepared for college and completely sick of school by the time I graduated, which caused immediate failure in college. It took me many wasted years to get on a good career path.
We have an idiotic mindset in this country - since the 1970’s - that one must go right from high school to a 4-year college, go full time, and finish in 4 years. Regardless of who pays or borrows to make it happen - and regardless of whether or not the child’s aptitude is well-suited to it. It’s one of the biggest scams of the century. Can’t figure out why the media is biased ? Why we have a Federal Reserve ? Why corporate America backs immorality and socialism ? Why your local Church backs leftism ? Why so-called Republicans don’t stand up for Biblically-compatible law and government ? This education scam is a key part of new world order strategy which results in all those things.
Bravo to you St_Thomas_Aquinas, Glenn Beck, and Neal Boortz aka “The TalkMaster” for speaking TRUTH about the grossly misnamed “Dept. of Education” - Boortz was famous for saying that the NEA and Dept. of Education have done and will continue to bring more harm to America than anything AQ could ever dream of doing. The NEA controls and programs the average public school student for 15,000 total classroom hours (1st - 12th grades), injecting anti-American cancer cells into the hearts and minds of our supposedly most loved and treasured resources on a daily basis. 15,000 hours of programming designed by Bill Ayers and to the glee of George Soros and Barack Obama. The NEA delivers state-sponsored terrorism into every government classroom in America, cloaked in a “for the children” argument that is every bit as false as “Hope and Change” was bullsh*t.
Parents, I pray you - look into hybrid home/private schools, virtual schools, Christian/Jewish/Catholic private schools. Take out student loans for elementary education and then set your kids free to work through college by getting their own college loans. You simply can’t de-program the 15,000 hours of junk science, revised history, new math, social justice and anti-capitalism indoctrination that occurs during the most formative, impressionable years of a child’s life.
The NEA is professional organization of child abusers. They are a sanctioned crime syndication, protected by unions and politicians, engineered by terrorists in promotion of pro-Islamic and anti-Christian, anti-American zealots. The NEA is the single most powerful political lobby, far more so than the NRA, in America.
The Dept. of Education must be exposed, defunded and abolished. Imagine if Microsoft, Walmart, Google and Apple operated the top four elementary school systems in America, and were forced to compete for taxpayer dollars in the free market? Would not our kids education get better, cheaper, faster each and every year? Wouldn’t these four “school companies” have to compete for market share and respond to customer demands, unlike the NEA? What if every parent in America could choose the school they desired, enroll their students, the school notified the government and our tax dollars were then sent to specific school WE SELECTED?
If you love America and you love your children, you’ll become as creative as possible in finding a way to remove your kids from the tyrannical clutches of progressive government engineered child abuse factories.
Thank you for your sacrifice and the good news! God bless you and your family.
Then why is it taking you so long?
There are so many resources for parents and homeschoolers these days, it's amazing, incredible and fantastic.
I haven't even checked out Khan Academy, but I've heard it's by a fellow who believes education should be free and accessible (don't know his politics), and he has a whole bunch of classes on online, for free - to include all those high school math classes.
The homeschoolers I know all have kids who are calm, respectful, but are go-getters. They have no problem dealing with little kids, or their elders.
Great post, #20. Agree !00%
Both of my daughters went to public schools and both are conservative and know the difference between pinheaded lib and conservative patriot. My oldest is a member of her college GOP club while my youngest is involved deeply in Christian based theatre.
Both attended several Palin rallies with their parents in 2008 and worked the phones with me to help conservative candidates.
Monitoring your children and reinforcing morals, principals and common sense goes a long way.
“Take a look at a homeschool curriculum, some time.”
I guess this is where it breaks down for me...I would feel compelled to use many of the same books used in the local schools - just so my kids could speak the same ‘language’ as the other kids and professors in college. Using a homeschool curriculum might prepare them well for life...but not for college. Sad but true.
And to your original point - the difference in today’s math class goes alot deeper than over-use of word problems (or the interjection of social issues in the word problem). Its hard to explain, but its a completely different language.
I would suggest the reverse - take a gander at a middle school math curriculum, some time. I think you will be surprised at how few of the terms have any familiarity to you.
I have said this for years. About every 5 years a new crop of PhD’s graduate and have to make their mark so they re-brand terminology and come up with some new fangled way to do the same thing we have dome for years. It is very apparent in the software industry. I am not talking about innovation but am alluding to the constant renaming of processes and standards. I spend more time trying to understand what the young mush minds out of college that somehow became managers are talking about than I do actually making product.
I often like to point out we sent men to the moon with a slide rule and big chief tablet and haven’t done anything that paramount since, except make thing more complicated. KISS.
I understand your points...and I do take the time to explain to my kids that some of what they are taught in school is complete nonsense.
I have got them successfully de-programmed on global warming.
My step-son is de-programmed as far as the gay marriage agenda goes...not yet with my daughter.
And both kids think I’m a complete whacko for suggesting that the schools have incorrectly taught evolution as fact, instead of properly as a theory. Obviously the schools have spent alot of time on that.
On the plus side, both have expressed exhaustion at their teacher’s constant moaning about their salary...and on their own have grown to understand that they would complain no matter what they were paid. So that’s a plus.
Again, I admire those that do homeschool...but I could never do it.
I tell my kids over and over to “question everything” they hear in schools, even if their teacher says it’s true (unless it’s Math).
We've got four kids, the eldest of which is sixteen. We pulled him out of the local kindergarten in his first semester, and began home schooling under the school district's charter program.
Didn't take long for us to realize that it was just as stultifying and controlling as having him in the classroom, so we soon found a way to break free of the gov't education system completely.
My wife was about the most unlikely teacher you ever met, but she rose to the task and overcame her own educational shortcomings to instruct our kids. In the last eleven years, she's done a great job of teaching them. They're on par, or even ahead of their public school peers in most areas.
Given what goes on in the government indoctrination compounds, we wouldn't think of ever sending our children there.
That's a great typo to describe school bureaucrats! A cross between "fetid" and "cretin" - unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever run out of those, even if there's no cash left. :)
That's how we made it work.
It is sad when one considers what the public schools have become. I went to public schools in the 1940’s and was quite well prepared for a university. The university I attended had many students from prestigious private schools and I did just as well as those kids.
The socialization argument is ridiculous. The facts are actually the other way around.
Would love too. But being divorced and the sole bread winner for both households with travel as part of the job, I cannot. But, I would be happy to pay a teacher all the money for my kids currently going to the state. SCHOOL CHOICE is needed for this to become a reality. I applaud and support those who do.
Totally agree. While taking your own kids out saves them, it doesn't really fix the system. Likely the easiest way to affect change in this country is for good folks like us to run for our local school boards.
We can still work, meetings are local, wont have to move. Getting conservatives on our local boards means that change can start to happen at the ground up.
A smart person once said "The world is run by those who show up"
Remember the liberal/progressives are showing up everywhere, because this is their religion. They also do like to suck off the government right?. Conservatives can show up, work and then rotate out or move up the ladder to state and national level if it suites us. We have the numbers do we have the will ?
Oh, it’s not exactly being ignored:
It breaks my heart that less than half the republicans who voted for Mitt Romney even bothered to vote for republicans for statewide education seats. All UofM board of regents seats went to hard left democrats. The same can be said for state board of education seats and seats at Michigan State university.
I don’t even have kids but I go to school board meetings and never miss a vote.
To which incident in Massachusetts are you referring?
We just went through the problems you will face in the coming years with an autistic child.. The schools are faced with a real conundrum, they haven’t any more tools to deal with this problem than the best Universities have..
We have been hiring special Ed teachers for homeschool for 4 years, and it got so expensive that we had to look to the government schools.. It took a great lawyer to get the school to fund a private school for our boy who is now 13..
I feel terrible for the school district having to foot this bill taking away the funds for the schools for the rest of the children.. We were paying over $30,000 a year for private teachers.. At least the District got a much lower price to accomplish a better outcome.. Our boy is doing so much better now..
I wish there was better news on how to find an answer to this epidemic..
Here’s an interesting link one of my friends posted on FB this morning. Story of a homeschooled family of 7. Quite inspiring African American family...they have it together.
Obviously, this is your choice, but isn't training for life more important than getting along with others in college? It's all been dumbed down. How else do colleges get away with degrees in Gender Studies and Minority Studies?
“It’s all been dumbed down”
Well it hasn’t all been dumbed down. I’m fairly confident my kids can still go to college, without majoring in Gender Studies. BTW, the colleges add that junk to get more students and revenue...but somewhere under all the fluff, there has to be a real college that lies beneath.
To answer your question, though: I can prepare my kids for life - I have experience in this area, know the lingo, etc. I cannot prepare them for college...the lingo and terms have changed and are outside of what I have experience with. So they’ll get both - they don’t have to be mutually exclusive.
For example, my kids will be able to do simple math in their head (for real life), and also be able to identify all the gobblygook phrases assigned to a math problem (so they can pass math in college).
(Lib response) Yeah, what business was it of his? He should not have gotten involved. Serves him right!
For some reason this is typo day for me. I need to go back to bed. That will fix everything.
I have heard Rush take a couple of ‘pot-shots’ at public education recently...he needs to ramp it up; just like Beck.
When Jesus, in his example prayer, told his followers to ask every day for protection from “the evil”, meaning the evil one (Satan), he was not being casual about the grave threat that Satan and those spirits who follow him pose to humanity.
What else is at work when many members of the news media spontaneously use the very same obscure word, pick up the same odd meme, or decide that a given topic is the one to hammer on a given day? How else but a common motivating spirit can explain how people of the same ideological bent suddenly and without apparent prior coordination appear to act in a coordinated manner? The same could be said for the actions of leftist politicians, as evidenced by the recent outbreak of brash lawmaking to restrict a certain style of firearm.
Yes, there is a motivating spirit and it is not Good, but quite the opposite. Some people are more receptive to this influence than are others, and those who reject evil must resist it in every way possible. And that resistance includes giving your own children the tools to deal with it so they too can know to resist the evil one tempts them.
There can’t be such a thing as winning any sort of a culture war while sending your kids off to the enemy for indoctrination.....