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To: randita
McCain was not born in the USA and he is a natural born citizen according to U.S. law, and according to Vattel - the ultimate authority according to some.
16 posted on 03/06/2013 1:53:16 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

Yes, McCain in my book was a NBC.

Of course, my book isn’t as authoritative as Vattel, except for its being based on Vattel.


22 posted on 03/06/2013 2:05:34 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: allmendream

You are correct, but there are many birthers who maintain that McCain was not “natural born” because he was born in Panama (even though both of his parents were U.S. citizens).

The purist birthers hold that you must be born in the U.S. to parents who are both U.S. citizens at the time of your birth.

There are variants. Some birthers are okay with your being born outside of the country to U.S. citizens as McCain was. A few birthers are okay with your being born in the U.S. to parents, one of which was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth.

I believe that being born a U.S. citizen according to the Constitution is the same as being “natural born”. If you have always been a U.S. citizen since the second you were born, you are “natural born” irregardless of the status of your parents.


24 posted on 03/06/2013 2:09:53 PM PST by randita
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To: allmendream

My records of Vattel writtings show his arguments were ‘The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens’. We must have different versions of what Vattel defined as ‘natural born’. Along with other readings about this Constitutional requirement I will consider my take on Vattel as being more rigidly accurate and appropriate.


37 posted on 03/06/2013 2:35:36 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: allmendream

McCain was never eligible, he’s foreign born, period. Resolution 511 anyone? Why was it necessary for the “eligible” McCain? Look it up. The elites could care less about NBC the Constitution and the Rule of Law.


66 posted on 03/06/2013 6:40:33 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: allmendream
McCain was not born in the USA and he is a natural born citizen according to U.S. law,

B$. There was an attempt to declare him and Obama NBC through a Sense of the Senate resolution which is as legal as them declaring Wednesday the official green turkey day.

Since we surely are now citizens of the world as Obama claimed to be on his campaign tour, then let us put aside all those writings of those old white people, and move Forward.

136 posted on 03/11/2013 10:27:57 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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